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Any Psychoactive Shroom + Portabella???
    #403251 - 09/25/01 02:54 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

I was considering experimenting with any normal strain of Cube and crossing it with a Portebella strain of mushroom. I was wondering if anyone has tried this before. Of course a question of potency is in order, but the taste and makeup of this kind of shroom may makeup for this. Of course no one really eats 20 grams of Portabellas at a time either. (Judging upon 20 grams of this kind of strain would give you a decent trip) But who knows how much it would take until you tried it. I'm suggesting someone should test this out.

Comments + Insights welcome!!!

Edited by snurferjoe on 09/25/01 02:14 AM.



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Re: Any Psychoactive Shroom + Portabella??? [Re: snurferjoe]
    #403258 - 09/25/01 03:17 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

How would you go about crossing it?
you can't just mix the spores and hope for the best, it would never work. You'd need to be a bad ass mycologist to pull off something like that.
Not to get you down i mean if you know what your doing go for it, i'd def like an active portabello, i mean think of the stealth a shroom in potrabello form would carry.


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Re: Any Psychoactive Shroom + Portabella??? [Re: MeltingPenguin]
    #403268 - 09/25/01 03:37 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

I guess my first question should've been "Is it Possible?" I just figured from the abundance of strains and new strains being discovered so frequently that this would be possible as I know it is with plants. Although plants are from a totally different family.



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Re: Any Psychoactive Shroom + Portabella??? [Re: snurferjoe]
    #403564 - 09/25/01 02:04 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

The diff. is with new strains, they are confined to the same species/sp. epithet. same with plants(i.e.blueberry pot). It is possible, but you'll need to get your hands on a powerfull microscope, a sterile working area, preferably with a hepa filtration system, some petri dishes, agar agar, mea, innoc loops, years of experience, some classes in mycology would help. it is possible, at least.

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Re: Any Psychoactive Shroom + Portabella??? [Re: rommstein2001]
    #403593 - 09/25/01 02:45 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Attention Kmart shoppers, we have a blue light special on intergeneric mushroom crosses.



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Re: Any Psychoactive Shroom + Portabella??? [Re: snurferjoe]
    #403807 - 09/25/01 06:18 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Excuse me if I'm wrong, but you can't cross species. Its hard enough just to cross strains, but to cross species is damn impossible. Not to say you can't do some genetic splicing to put psilocybin producing genes into an agaricus mushroom, but trying to get a cross through breeding. Ha!

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Re: Any Psychoactive Shroom + Portabella??? [Re: jonnyshaggs420]
    #403813 - 09/25/01 06:31 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

*gasp* ! What about all of those half-human, half-cow people in Mexico? Maybe *someone* should take a closer look at those magazines near the cashier as they are having their groceries bagged. hmmm?

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Re: Any Psychoactive Shroom + Portabella??? [Re: jonnyshaggs420]
    #404023 - 09/25/01 09:58 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Well here is to back up that you can breed species of plants anyways.

http://www1.umn.edu/urelate/kiosk/9.00text/mum.html

But I'm persistant why couldn't you do the same with mushrooms? Is it that they have to be of the same species...Or can you not do it at all?


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Edited by snurferjoe on 09/25/01 09:05 PM.



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Re: Any Psychoactive Shroom + Portabella??? [Re: snurferjoe]
    #404152 - 09/25/01 11:21 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

If a cat rapes my dog does that make a catdog?

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Re: Any Psychoactive Shroom + Portabella??? [Re: baraka]
    #404154 - 09/25/01 11:22 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Nope. It makes your dog a bitch.

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Re: Any Psychoactive Shroom + Portabella??? [Re: snurferjoe]
    #404319 - 09/26/01 12:47 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

I think you may have linked to the wrong article. No where in that article did it state anything about cross breading two seperate species of plants. Just cross pollinating and selective breading of existing varieties to come up with a new variety. It all dealt with the same species of plant. Mums.

Portabello and Psilocybe mushrooms aren't even the same genus let alone species, and I don't thing they're in the same family either. This is totally different. It may be possible to cross same genus plants but definately not out of the family. I once saw a tomato plant that grew potato's underground, but I think it was just grafted, but even if it was grown like that from seed,they are both in the same family of plants.

Back to mushrooms, yes same species crossing can be done, but it is much more difficult than with plant crossings. Much more difficult. All the new races and strains that have arisen are due to careful selection of wild varieties of mushrooms from around the world. There was little to no breeding involved.

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Re: Any Psychoactive Shroom + Portabella??? [Re: jonnyshaggs420]
    #404366 - 09/26/01 01:25 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks for the input johnnyshag, thats pretty much what I figured after I read the mum article. I dug up some extensive info from a Biology text book and this is what it says about the makeup:

"fungi may produce spores either sexually or asexually. unlike most animal and plant cells, fungal cells usually contain haploid nuclei. In sexual reporduction, the hyphae of two genetically compatible mating types come together and their cytoplasm and nuclei fuse, forming a dipoloid cell known as a zygote. in two fungal groups, the ascomycetes and basidiomycetes, the hypahae fuse, but the two different nuclei do not fuse immediately; rather, they remain spearate within the fungal cytoplasm. Hyphae that contain two geneticall distinct sexually compatible nuclei within each cell are dikaryotic. Hyphae that contain only one nucleus per cell are said to by monokaryotic.

sexual reproduction ivolves the fusion of two haploid hypae of different mating types to form dikaryotic (n + n) hyphae from which basidia develop. in each basidium the two nuclei fuse, followed by meiosis to produce four basidiospores. in basidomycetes in which the fruting body is a mushroom the basidia line the outer surfaces of the gills."





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Re: Any Psychoactive Shroom + Portabella??? [Re: snurferjoe]
    #404386 - 09/26/01 01:51 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

okay, the fact that mules exist proves that it is indeed possible to crossbreed similar but differing species. there are numerous other examples in both plant and animal kingdoms. all of the examples are species that reproduce through heterosexual reproduction. I know of no examples of crossing species through the 'monosexual' reproduction that is found with mushrooms. if done, it would likely have to be done at the monokaryon stage. the second problem is that such hybrids are allways sterile, so in a mushroom, propagation may be a problem, since there would be no spores.

good luck.



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