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After Incubation . of a CAsing?
    #4032454 - 04/08/05 10:45 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Yo.
Was just double checking . So After Casing 50/50 Verm.PEat. I cold shocked and then Popped it back in Incubater and allowed to warm back up for a day . THe Question i got is this: There should only be a Little bit of Mycelium poking up through the top casing layer,.and then fruit them suckers. Right,? DOesnt have to be a lot coming up. ?


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Re: After Incubation . of a CAsing? [Re: jsims88]
    #4032467 - 04/08/05 10:50 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Right, you want just a little mycelium poking up when you go to fruit. Even better is having mycelium just below the surface, then introduce fruiting conditions.


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Re: After Incubation . of a CAsing? [Re: jsims88]
    #4032470 - 04/08/05 10:51 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

some go at the first sign of mycelium i prefer to wait a little longer but u have to becareful as to not let it get overlayed but a little experience will allow for this judgement


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Re: After Incubation . of a CAsing? [Re: lordoftheshroomz]
    #4032473 - 04/08/05 10:52 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I go right into fruiting chamber after cold shock really no reason to go back into incubation.


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Re: After Incubation . of a CAsing? [Re: kronnyQ]
    #4032509 - 04/08/05 11:08 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Right. The cold shock is to initiate fruiting. Why would you take your casing from cold shock back to incubating temp? Should go from cold shock to fruiting temp.,mid 70's, not mid 80. Doesn't seem to make sense.
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Re: After Incubation . of a CAsing? [Re: HippieChick]
    #4032611 - 04/08/05 11:37 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Hippe. We the reason that i did that was A: I read it on here somewhere that the flux, in temps helps start . B: the reason i put back in 80's was to let the mycleium know that its not completely turned into winter.lets it know that theres still a chance to fruit before its too cold. I read it on here i swear. But i well take you guys/gals advice on the best way.No worries.


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Re: After Incubation . of a CAsing? [Re: jsims88]
    #4032619 - 04/08/05 11:41 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

A flux in temps helps yes, but not a rise back to incubation temps. A coordinated drop in temp, fresh air exchange, and correct RH are ideal to start pinning. Coordination is the key.

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Re: After Incubation . of a CAsing? [Re: Holydiver]
    #4032638 - 04/08/05 11:50 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks Diver. I had just spent 5 min.s ansewering this and when I went to post I got booted. But you forgot about light when initiating fruiting. My post was much more elegant also, you know, a women's touch.
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Re: After Incubation . of a CAsing? [Re: HippieChick]
    #4032646 - 04/08/05 11:52 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

You got booted, cause I haxx0red you! :evil:

Light?  What's that?  Hehe, oh vell...


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Re: After Incubation . of a CAsing? [Re: Holydiver]
    #4032659 - 04/08/05 11:57 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

You're mean diver. How's this for a women's touch? lol.
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Re: After Incubation . of a CAsing? [Re: HippieChick]
    #4032824 - 04/09/05 01:07 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

whats up . thanks peeps.Ill remember the light.. LOL.. But its all good i feel pretty strongly that this well be a great study. Theres a wonderful story i cant wait to share about this particular strain , ITs great.. but not untill i get the babies in .. Thanks a million. Peace


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Re: After Incubation . of a CAsing? [Re: jsims88]
    #4032927 - 04/09/05 01:48 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

um guys.. maybe im just thinking too deep into this but here's my look at things.

when you create your casing, you want to put it back in the incubator right away, for a few days, for the mycelium to recover and grow strong.

THEN you cold shock, and throw it in the fruiting chamber with light, fresh air and humidity.

you dont want to initiate pinning before you re-incubate... RIGHT???


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Re: After Incubation . of a CAsing? [Re: swiftrance]
    #4032953 - 04/09/05 02:02 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Correct. The cold shock is the initiation of fruiting phase. Kinda the first step. Not everybody cold shocks though. Some people just go with the drop from incubating,85 deg, to fruiting chamber, 75 deg. A 10 deg drop is what's needed to start pinning. Followed by light, fresh air and proper humidity, which can be 95-100% until you see pins then knock it back to about 85%.
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Re: After Incubation . of a CAsing? [Re: HippieChick]
    #4033038 - 04/09/05 02:37 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Yay, i show knowledge beyond my 10 posts :smile:

thats what i did, it was cold that night so when i just fruited directly after re-incubation(3days), i opened my window overnight and the temp dropped to around 65.

and OMGOMGOMGOMG... 9th day since fruit chamber insertion i finally got pins! my first time ever omg. !PINS! omg hahaha im euphoric :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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Re: After Incubation . of a CAsing? [Re: swiftrance]
    #4033048 - 04/09/05 02:42 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Congrat's. Continued Good Luck.
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Re: After Incubation . of a CAsing? [Re: HippieChick]
    #4033072 - 04/09/05 02:57 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I am a newbie and this most recent series of questions - After Incubation . of a CAsing? was exactly what I needed to have answered.

Serendipity.

I like that.

One more thought to add:

My question is: temp. changes from incubation to fruiting, no matter what stage, is the temp. supposed to be consistent? Because if that's the case....I have not been so observant. I 've got the general temp. however it does fluctuate 1-2 degrees, maybe 3-4, throughout the day. I figure mother nature isn't always consistent, mushrooms grow; but then I visit the shroomery and it seems like I there's no way these things are gonna grow.
Oh well, still truckin on and loving my shrooms.

And one more ?
Using H2o2 on perlite - why dilute it? Many different ratios are offered; but if it's only 3% by volume in the first place....? What can/will happen if used undiluted?


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