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Invisiblepoke smot!
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Pot: physical dependance
    #4016081 - 04/05/05 06:49 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

No, it's not me, fortunately. But someone I am close to is struggling with a 5-year relationship. His girlfriend has always smoked pot, for her stomach. When she doesn't have it, she gets really sick.

Last night he asked me for pot. He wouldn't do this normally but he's changing his values to support her. There's more to this relationship but that's all I'm willing to share.

I really care for this person, and he's living a very co-dependant relationship. I cannot change this; but what I am trying to find out is if these "symptoms" she gets from not smoking pot, are legitimate or just an attempt to continue to live her current lifestyle. It really shows when she needs pot, but nugget just isn't good enough because she smokes headies.

Is she playing with his emotions? Has anyone ever had, or known someone who has, such a physical problem with pot? This is medical marijuana to the worst level.


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Re: Pot: physical dependance [Re: poke smot!]
    #4016301 - 04/05/05 08:37 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

there are non-psychoactive pharmaceuticals that can deal with stomach sickness. its as simple as that.

if someone wants to quit weed, then quit it for god sake. develop some will power.


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Re: Pot: physical dependance [Re: poke smot!]
    #4016378 - 04/05/05 08:54 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah I've been there before. I wouldn't have even wanted to think what my stomach would feel like without it. I was doing too many drugs for awhile, and not eating properly, so my body was going to shit. My stomach felt terrible without weed, but after smoking, it felt all better and I could eat again. Your friend's gf probably isn't having any symptoms of withdrawal, the weed has just been masking whatever is wrong with her stomach. Does she eat healthy? After I started eating healthy and stopped using drugs, I could quit smoking weed with no problems.


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Re: Pot: physical dependance [Re: poke smot!]
    #4016445 - 04/05/05 09:21 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

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Your friend's gf probably isn't having any symptoms of withdrawal



mj isn't physically addictive.

it could be that she takes pot to ease stomach aches (medicinal use). But whatever she's experiancing it isn't from not smoking pot. She probably has other health problems that she's masking this way and maybe believes in it herself too.


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Re: Pot: physical dependance [Re: stefan]
    #4016464 - 04/05/05 09:26 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

No, it's not physically addictive, but it can become psychologically addicting. I really don't know how to deal with something like this except to stop cold turkey. It sounds harsh, but it may be the only way.....


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Re: Pot: physical dependance [Re: Le_Canard]
    #4016567 - 04/05/05 09:58 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

yeah, that's the way. i used to smoke an 1/8 every two days. i stopped, felt like shit for a few days and then it was all over. now i just smoke at weekends.


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Re: Pot: physical dependance [Re: poke smot!]
    #4017924 - 04/05/05 02:55 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

sounds like a load of bullshit to me, she's just playing with his emotions.

if she really has these problems she'd surely seek professional help to CURE the problem.

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Re: Pot: physical dependance [Re: Bi0TeK]
    #4018032 - 04/05/05 03:30 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

This is similar to the relationship my brother-in-law has with his mother and hydrocodone.  Strikingly- though with no nefarious third-person undertones of course.  Fuck her- if it's that important you do not need to be a mediator to her needs in their relationship- what gives you the right to medicate and her the right to ask thorugh him?  If she has a real problem- I bet she hasn't gone to the doctor for it.  And I bet pot is not the answer, despite its theraputic potential.  Masking problems by self medicating is officially abusing pot.  And the long-term implications are a bitch.  Stop while you're behind.  I wish genuinely for you to have a resolution apparent to you n the near future. :frown: :stash:


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Re: Pot: physical dependance [Re: stefan]
    #4018900 - 04/05/05 07:54 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

People use the word addiction way to much.......pot is habit forming, not addictive.....anyone that's been addicted to hard drugs will know what I mean. I'm not trying to be a dick, but I just have to shake my head when people seem to think they have problems with pot. If you're self medicating with it then I'd advise standing up to the underlying issues and dealing with them.....that way you can be truely happy, and that way you won't move on to hard drugs and/or alcohol abuse.


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    #4023652 - 04/06/05 09:28 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Pot: physical dependance [Re: poke smot!]
    #4028412 - 04/07/05 08:33 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah...I'm getting an idea of part of this girls personality....I know people like her, due to some issues deep-down inside of them they want attention, and they want people to feel bad for them so they come up with a drug problem to do this.....however they are your standard anti-drug bullshit believer, and therefore smoke pot and exaggerate everything to an astronomical degree, rather than actually getting addicted to a real drug, like heroin for example. The best case scenario here is getting to bottom of everything; have your friend sit down and have a heart to heart with her, find out what's causing this need for attention/care and then work to fix that. That's the only way your this girl and your friend will ever be happy.


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Re: Pot: physical dependance [Re: Dark_Star]
    #4028569 - 04/07/05 09:07 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

i have friends who feel like they can't even have a good time unless they're stoned... she may be using her sickness as an excuse. i find it kinda hard to believe that shes had stomach problems for 5 years, and if she HAS, well she should go see a doctor, not just smoke weed every day to mask it. if her stomach's bad, then she needs to see a doctor and find something a little better for her than weed to use every day. and if she has a drug problem, one way that worked for me to get off of weed (which wasn't all that hard i found) was to delete my dealer's phone number (and when i came to college, i didn't seek out a dealer at all). Also, making a promise to only smoke with other people helps since then it wouldn't be so much for medication but for social reasons.


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Re: Pot: physical dependance [Re: Dark_Star]
    #4029130 - 04/07/05 11:20 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Dark_Star said:
Yeah...I'm getting an idea of part of this girls personality....I know people like her, due to some issues deep-down inside of them they want attention, and they want people to feel bad for them so they come up with a drug problem to do this.....however they are your standard anti-drug bullshit believer, and therefore smoke pot and exaggerate everything to an astronomical degree, rather than actually getting addicted to a real drug, like heroin for example. The best case scenario here is getting to bottom of everything; have your friend sit down and have a heart to heart with her, find out what's causing this need for attention/care and then work to fix that. That's the only way your this girl and your friend will ever be happy.




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