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The "New Age" mentality
    #4029002 - 04/07/05 10:45 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

I have discovered a trend in new age thought. First of all mutual affirmation is popular with many of the way out new age folk. The good old boy system lives strong. I believe all of your lies and bullshit, and you agree to believe all of mine. That way we all seem cool, and we can make any outrageous, pointless claim we feel like and not worry about our self importance being threatened.. Big egos rule here, but you wouldn't know it...everyone claims they ain't got an ego. So, if you say it it must be true. Second, if anyone makes a logical argument to dispute some of the more far out concepts posed, well, we don't make a rational argument....because we really can't. At that point all of our peace, love, and togetherness is ditched and we get plain nasty with the personal insults and posturing. I ain't addressing everyone here, but if this bugged you then you are one of those to whom I addressed this thought.


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Re: The "New Age" mentality [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #4029354 - 04/08/05 12:59 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

:lol: +5


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Re: The "New Age" mentality [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #4029725 - 04/08/05 06:04 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Absolutely. When your beliefs begin to solidify and become absolute it is time for serious reflection. It is a very tricky thing, an illusion of awareness as a prison. The tricky part is the belief there is but one prison.

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Re: The "New Age" mentality [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #4029741 - 04/08/05 06:15 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

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Huehuecoyotl said:
I have discovered a trend in new age thought. First of all mutual affirmation is popular with many of the way out new age folk. The good old boy system lives strong. I believe all of your lies and bullshit, and you agree to believe all of mine. That way we all seem cool, and we can make any outrageous, pointless claim we feel like and not worry about our self importance being threatened.. Big egos rule here, but you wouldn't know it...everyone claims they ain't got an ego. So, if you say it it must be true. Second, if anyone makes a logical argument to dispute some of the more far out concepts posed, well, we don't make a rational argument....because we really can't. At that point all of our peace, love, and togetherness is ditched and we get plain nasty with the personal insults and posturing. I ain't addressing everyone here, but if this bugged you then you are one of those to whom I addressed this thought.




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as soon as a philosophy begins to believe in itself. It always creates a world in its own image?




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Re: The "New Age" mentality [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #4029805 - 04/08/05 06:55 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Is this in response to the B.S post about Swami? Because i never thought this place was like that until i saw that post. Respect definitely went out the window with that one.


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Re: The "New Age" mentality [Re: egghead1]
    #4029853 - 04/08/05 07:11 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

I only saw the original post in that thread which I didn't see as disrespectful at all, what else was said beyond that I do not know. The thread itself however I see nothing wrong with. If Swami is allowed to test the belief's of others, others should be allowed to test the belief of his.

Skepticism is essential, but it is no different than any other set of belief in my eyes. If you swear by it your mind will close itself to other possibilities.

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Re: The "New Age" mentality [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #4030053 - 04/08/05 08:44 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

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Huehuecoyotl said:
I have discovered a trend in new age thought. First of all mutual affirmation is popular with many of the way out new age folk. The good old boy system lives strong. I believe all of your lies and bullshit, and you agree to believe all of mine. That way we all seem cool, and we can make any outrageous, pointless claim we feel like and not worry about our self importance being threatened.. Big egos rule here, but you wouldn't know it...everyone claims they ain't got an ego. So, if you say it it must be true. Second, if anyone makes a logical argument to dispute some of the more far out concepts posed, well, we don't make a rational argument....because we really can't. At that point all of our peace, love, and togetherness is ditched and we get plain nasty with the personal insults and posturing. I ain't addressing everyone here, but if this bugged you then you are one of those to whom I addressed this thought.


:thumbup:

Evolution is a slow and sometimes painful process. :wink:


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Re: The "New Age" mentality [Re: egghead1]
    #4030114 - 04/08/05 09:08 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

The community should always try to police itself without the moderators HAVING to do something.


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Re: The "New Age" mentality [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #4030172 - 04/08/05 09:30 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

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The community should always try to police itself without the moderators HAVING to do something.




Indeed. We can, if we choose, to serve the community that serves us without being mods when we see forum rules and guidelines being broke or tampered with. Yet, we can't hold bias's then either and truly be of service to the whole of the community.

Do we stand for a minimum of respect being given around here to ALL of the members or not? Space dragon was just flamed again and no one jumped in to defend him.

If we just jump in when someone we usually agree with is being dissed then we are really just establishing clicks around here that can only serve to further divide us within a community. If we truly believe an action is out of line according to forum rules, then it should be when aimed at ANY member.

In all fairness, flaming and flame type opinions are a part of the "real world" off the board and people slip talking in their every day voice and forget the rules here. I'm not downing anyone who does it. I'm just saying, it is a forum rule to be respectful of others beliefs and opinions and to not flame. That should hold for everyone and in defense of everyone without partiality or bias. :thumbup:


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Re: The "New Age" mentality [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #4030209 - 04/08/05 09:53 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

I agree with you about respect. But what constitues a flame? I dont see where spacedragon was flamed? And since he is the self proclaimed emprorer of the world he certainly does'nt need to be defended by any of us lesser mortals :confused: :lol:


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Re: The "New Age" mentality [Re: Lux]
    #4030239 - 04/08/05 10:04 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

The post that was directed toward swami was a direct attack not on a particular belief or view, but a personal attack on a Swami himself who is obviously openly skeptical. Such acts denote disrespect in my book.


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Re: The "New Age" mentality [Re: egghead1]
    #4030246 - 04/08/05 10:05 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

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egghead1 said:
The post that was directed toward swami was a direct attack not on a particular belief or view, but a personal attack on a Swami himself who is obviously openly skeptical. Such acts denote disrespect in my book.




alot of people seem to have a problem with swami,

I for one like his post's.


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Re: The "New Age" mentality [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #4030812 - 04/08/05 12:37 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

In truth I don't read Spacedragon's posts because they don't interest me,so I did not see that one, BUT when one of his threads was deleted by an overzealous mod I complained loudly. That does not mean I will not openly question his veracity...which is not an attack, but a valid device for debate. Everyone...barring no one, deserves basic respect. Seeing a thread solely for the purpose of insult pissed me off a bit. If you read my previous posts you will see that I have posted against hate oriented discussion and insult many times. That still does not stop me from vigorously questioning philosophies which with I do not agree.

Edit: A little flaming is one thing...everyone should not be oversensitive to the point that they cannot have fun, but that thread about Swami was over the top.


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Re: The "New Age" mentality [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #4030868 - 04/08/05 12:57 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

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Huehuecoyotl said:
The community should always try to police itself without the moderators HAVING to do something.




Sure, you can see mods locking and moving threads all day long in this forum :tongue: . Come on :mad2: !
So, now you believe in some kind of anarchy ?
Sorry, but this is not the time to implement it. Recent facts did prove this forum needs moderation when the word "Swami" is referred.
If any member feels outraged by another member, please feel free to PM me and i'll try to deal with the situation. Since i became a mod, do you know the number of PM's i have ever received from any member complaining about Swami ?
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Btw, i did move a thread today, guess what, it was directed to Swami. I was about to let it stay but after reading the replies i decided to move it because it simply got off topic. People, S&P stands for Spirituality&Philosophy and sometimes it stands Swami&Philosophy. I'm ok with "Swami" threads as long as the community tries to give it a spiritual or philosophical meaning. Otherwise, it goes to the dump, period.

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Edited by MAIA (04/08/05 01:07 PM)

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Re: The "New Age" mentality [Re: MAIA]
    #4030880 - 04/08/05 01:01 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

"People, S&P stands for Science&Philosophy"
What forum are you supposed to be moderating here?. It is listed as Spirituality and Philosophy.

"So, now you believe in some kind of anarchy ?"
What? I am just talking about having respect for each other. Read my words more carefully. I know you are an anarchist, but I believe in strong leadership.


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Re: The "New Age" mentality [Re: MAIA]
    #4030886 - 04/08/05 01:03 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

I do think that the moderators here tend to ignore hate based threads. I see racial and religious prejudices weekly expressed. I am outraged by hate so I usually comment.


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Re: The "New Age" mentality [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #4030926 - 04/08/05 01:21 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

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Huehuecoyotl said:
"People, S&P stands for Science&Philosophy"
What forum are you supposed to be moderating here?. It is listed as Spirituality and Philosophy.




Heh lol, thanks for the correction. Forgive this old timer ...

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"So, now you believe in some kind of anarchy ?"
What? I am just talking about having respect for each other. Read my words more carefully. I know you are an anarchist, but I believe in strong leadership.




"The community should always try to police itself without the moderators HAVING to do something."

Although i agree with you about it having to do with respect, the fact is not everybody respect each other, so there's a need for "policing" and acting when needed. Mods over here do let things run, but sometimes we have to "hint" the community, or at least, part of the community which is seen as biased (believers and skeptics), and make them see this place is not (or shouldn't be) some kind of battle field.
It's ok with me about the leadership thing. I not a leader, i'm a mod :wink: but i do have the capability to apply power.

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Re: The "New Age" mentality [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #4030951 - 04/08/05 01:30 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

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I do think that the moderators here tend to ignore hate based threads. I see racial and religious prejudices weekly expressed. I am outraged by hate so I usually comment.




I do tend to ignore hate, as long as it is not against the rules, then there's nothing i can do. Acting when such threads arise can be troublesome for any mod, being accused for "lack of freedom" is not a pretty thing and we do like to see everyone expressing themselves freely.
Hate/love, good/bad, believer/skeptic, ying/yang are all opposites but at the same time they are the subject for many S&P threads. If you don't like hate threads, then fill them with love or ignore them.

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Re: The "New Age" mentality [Re: Lux]
    #4030974 - 04/08/05 01:39 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Skepticism is essential, but it is no different than any other set of belief in my eyes. If you swear by it your mind will close itself to other possibilities.

How does the process of asking questions and testing hypotheses equate to a belief system? What is there to solidify?

How does accepting an unsubstantiated story lead to knowledge and wisdom?


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Re: The "New Age" mentality [Re: Swami]
    #4031019 - 04/08/05 01:57 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

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How does the process of asking questions and testing hypotheses equate to a belief system?




Structured knowledge leads to a system, in this case a belief system.

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Re: The "New Age" mentality [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #4031099 - 04/08/05 02:25 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

HueHue,  Honestly, I am starting to wonder why it is actually called "New Age" Spirituality....  For me it is all new, but it seems that it has been there the whole time....  Kinda~ making it "Old Age" Spirituality if ya~ think about it....  :shrug:  :heart:


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Re: The "New Age" mentality [Re: MAIA]
    #4031160 - 04/08/05 02:39 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

You failed to answer the question.  :eek: 

Making your answer APPEAR logical by substituting dissimilar terms either shows a lack of understanding or dishonesty.


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Re: The "New Age" mentality [Re: eMotionALLmotion]
    #4031199 - 04/08/05 02:51 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

The same old new... everything is it.


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Re: The "New Age" mentality [Re: Psychoactive1984]
    #4031220 - 04/08/05 02:58 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

1984,Yes yes, I am starting to realize a lot of stuff that "is"....!
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Swami,  I think what MAIA *may* be trying to say is, if you limit yourself to a particular structured belief system, you will only limit yourself to that paticular structure of beliefs....  Then you will have boxed yourself in to not believing in anything that is not part of that structure....  That is my take anyways....  :shrug:  :heart:


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Re: The "New Age" mentality [Re: Swami]
    #4031302 - 04/08/05 03:16 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

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How does the process of asking questions and testing hypotheses equate to a belief system? What is there to solidify?




When you are bent on proving things wrong you accumilate beliefs that they are wrong. They are beliefs because for the most part it is of a metaphysical nature making it difficult if not impossible to prove or disprove, resulting in a belief instead of a fact. It is a system of belief pointing out what is wrong. What I said, is that this limits you, it closes your mind. Instead of looking into it's essence for truth you simply reveal the untruth. There is nothing wrong with this, but as I said when you swear by it, meaning when it is all you focus on, I do not see it as productive as pointing out it's truths. In the end due to this I see it capable of producing just as much ignorance in it's strict followers as any strict religous follower.

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How does accepting an unsubstantiated story lead to knowledge and wisdom?




Please show me where I made this claim. In fact I even started the line which you are responding to with the words, 'Skepticism is essential'.

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Re: The "New Age" mentality [Re: MAIA]
    #4031405 - 04/08/05 03:32 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Perhaps you do not understand what I mean saying to police one's self (or the community to police itself). It means to watch one's behavior. We should all police our own behavior as well as our physical surroundings (pick up our trash). When I was in the service this was a common term to use in this way. It does NOT mean to ignore or abdicate the need for authority. It is mereley taking personal responsibility for our actions.This was meant in addition to, not in place of moderation. Moderation is for those who cannot police themselves.


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Re: The "New Age" mentality [Re: MAIA]
    #4031419 - 04/08/05 03:35 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

So, promoting violence against ethnic groups is within the rules? I have seen this in reference to Jews many times.


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Re: The "New Age" mentality [Re: eMotionALLmotion]
    #4031425 - 04/08/05 03:36 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

I was being sarcastic.


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Re: The "New Age" mentality [Re: Lux]
    #4032410 - 04/08/05 08:24 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

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How does the process of asking questions and testing hypotheses equate to a belief system? What is there to solidify?

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When you are bent on proving things wrong you accumilate beliefs that they are wrong.




It is amazing how so many people are totally unable to answer a simple, direct question without dragging in thoughts they have about the poster and lathering on other preconceptions. Notice how Lux merely displayed his own bias without any attempt to answer the question ACTUALLY asked. He answered an imaginary question that was nowhere in print. This makes real debate nigh impossible.

Asking questions is for data gathering and clarification. If I ask you what type of music you prefer, what system of beliefs am I trying to establish?


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Re: The "New Age" mentality [Re: Swami]
    #4032428 - 04/08/05 08:30 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

It was a general you, not specifically you. What I wrote was in conjuction with my original post which you were replying to in hopes of clarifying what I meant. You may disagree with what I said and that is fine, but I am not making any attacks on you at all. You asked me to explain how it is that I see skepticism as a possible belief system and I gave you my opinion.

Please respond to my post's content or lack of as opposed to what you believe the intent was so I can clarify better.

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Re: The "New Age" mentality [Re: Swami]
    #4032429 - 04/08/05 08:31 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

I like heavy music, and soft music, depends on the mood....  :grin:  :heart:
I don't care too much for country music, but still appreciate their musicianship.....   

What kind do you like....?


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Re: The "New Age" mentality [Re: Swami]
    #4041278 - 04/11/05 01:46 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

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Swami said:
You failed to answer the question.  :eek: 

Making your answer APPEAR logical by substituting dissimilar terms




Appear ? Either it is or it isn't.

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either shows a lack of understanding or dishonesty.




Pick one then :smirk:

Do yourself a favor and read about assimilation in the knowledge process.  Understanding or reality comes with phenomenal action through knowledge, a belief system is one of the results of that action.

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Re: The "New Age" mentality [Re: MAIA]
    #4041410 - 04/11/05 02:37 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Do yourself a favor and read about assimilation in the knowledge process. Understanding or reality comes with phenomenal action through knowledge, a belief system is one of the results of that action.

Another nice, albeit, weak try. A process of asking questions may or may not result in a belief system, but in and of itself is merely an action and NOT a view of reality. A question represents nothing dogmatic at all.

"How far away was the glowing object that you saw?"

What does that question tell us of the mindset of the questioner? Is he a believer or a skeptic? One cannot tell.


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Re: The "New Age" mentality [Re: Swami]
    #4041434 - 04/11/05 02:41 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

One cannot tell.
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Actually, only one can  tell....  :wink:


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Re: The "New Age" mentality [Re: egghead1]
    #4043823 - 04/12/05 01:22 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

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egghead1 said:
Is this in response to the B.S post about Swami? Because i never thought this place was like that until i saw that post. Respect definitely went out the window with that one.




Ho-lee shit, is that Swami person still around?! That's amazing... I've been away for so long, it's just surprising as hell to me that he's still here! hahaha


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Re: The "New Age" mentality [Re: Swami]
    #4044347 - 04/12/05 04:15 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

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A process of asking questions may or may not result in a belief system




You did get my point after all.

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Re: The "New Age" mentality [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #4044371 - 04/12/05 04:30 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

You put my opinion on new age bullshit into words better than I could. I absolutely agree that those who extol their lack of ego are in fact those with the biggest ego. Beliefs should be treated like beliefs if there is no rationality to back them up, if there is rationality to back them up only then you can claim to have some kind of true knowledge, and even then it has to withstand constant intellectual scrutiny. The people who sell 'energy crystals' and 'Karma bracelets' are simply ripping off true spirituality, because at its heart 'new ageism' is as empty as the materialism they claim to be rallying against (again, hypocritical bullshit, the same people happily charge extortionate prices for 'alternative' remedies and nik-naks).


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Re: The "New Age" mentality [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #4044393 - 04/12/05 04:48 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

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Huehuecoyotl said:
I have discovered a trend in new age thought. First of all mutual affirmation is popular with many of the way out new age folk. The good old boy system lives strong. I believe all of your lies and bullshit, and you agree to believe all of mine. That way we all seem cool, and we can make any outrageous, pointless claim we feel like and not worry about our self importance being threatened.. Big egos rule here, but you wouldn't know it...everyone claims they ain't got an ego. So, if you say it it must be true. Second, if anyone makes a logical argument to dispute some of the more far out concepts posed, well, we don't make a rational argument....because we really can't. At that point all of our peace, love, and togetherness is ditched and we get plain nasty with the personal insults and posturing. I ain't addressing everyone here, but if this bugged you then you are one of those to whom I addressed this thought.




do you think that this trend has been going on for quite some time? is it just the new age philosophy or is it many different shades of people?


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