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Tenn Stud...I hope this works? *DELETED*
    #4028344 - 04/07/05 10:19 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Tenn Stud...I hope this works? [Re: supernaut]
    #4029056 - 04/08/05 01:02 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Sounds good except I think you're upposed to place your spawned substrate in the incubator, uncased for 7-10 days until it completely colonizes and then case and fruitGood LuckPeace Love,Happiness and Harmony.
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Re: Tenn Stud...I hope this works? [Re: supernaut]
    #4029062 - 04/08/05 01:05 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Also, I think you should layer the top of your poo with some colonized birdseed to act as a contam barrier. Should have read a little more.
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Re: Tenn Stud...I hope this works? [Re: HippieChick]
    #4029166 - 04/08/05 01:33 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

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Also, I think you should layer the top of your poo with some colonized birdseed to act as a contam barrier.




I think plastic wrap or a lid would be a better idea...


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Re: Tenn Stud...I hope this works? [Re: HippieChick]
    #4029179 - 04/08/05 01:36 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

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Also, I think you should layer the top of your poo with some colonized birdseed to act as a contam barrier.  :heart: Hippie Chick  :mushroom2:



do you have a link?  I haven't read about this (I don't think).


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Re: Tenn Stud...I hope this works? [Re: Dexter_Morgan]
    #4029483 - 04/08/05 04:21 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

you jumped teh gun bro you dont case till it grows all over the poop,becase if you case it before there is a super good chance you willl get green mold.
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HA HA HA HA i cant beleave you bought horse shit !
i got some horse shit too you want to but it?
man just find some one with horses and ask if you can clean the stables , thay will laughta and then say sure and take all teh shit you want, chanes are if you do a good job thay will pay you 20 bucks and you can go home with 100lbs of poo


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Re: Tenn Stud...I hope this works? [Re: Dem_Bones]
    #4029494 - 04/08/05 04:29 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

tennessee stud is reccomended by a few people on the board.

flaming people because they pay for stuff instead of going and getting it is kind of dumb. it's like telling someone they're stupid for eating at a restaraunt when they can cook food themselves... you pay for the convenience.

oh, wait until the myc is barely showing. you don't want it to colonize the top, just in the valleys of your casing layer... (ridges and valleys ,just like hyphae taught me. :smile: )


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Re: Tenn Stud...I hope this works? [Re: ZeroArmy27]
    #4029507 - 04/08/05 04:40 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

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flaming people because they pay for stuff instead of going and getting it is kind of dumb.




Uh News Flash dude just becase some people on this site say some thing is good dont mean shit how meany asses out there think coco is better than peat even thows its not even as good and cost 100 times more, and 2 paying 5 bucks pound for horse shit and then having it mailed to your house UPS when you can get it in your county is kinda really dumb too.


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Re: Tenn Stud...I hope this works? [Re: HippieChick]
    #4029605 - 04/08/05 06:27 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

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Also, I think you should layer the top of your poo with some colonized birdseed to act as a contam barrier. Should have read a little more.
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You top coat the substrate with a little extra spawn, so it will colonize quicker.

You cover that with cling wrap (not touching the substrate) & poke or slit pins holes in it (gas exchange), then cover that with crinkly aluminum foil, which still allows gas exchange, but keeps all light - out.


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Re: Tenn Stud...I hope this works? [Re: Dem_Bones]
    #4029864 - 04/08/05 09:14 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

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HA HA HA HA i cant beleave you bought horse shit !
i got some horse shit too you want to but it?
man just find some one with horses and ask if you can clean the stables , thay will laughta and then say sure and take all teh shit you want, chanes are if you do a good job thay will pay you 20 bucks and you can go home with 100lbs of poo




What broke redneck would actully want to clean a stable, Leach the poo, chop the straw, get the water right, and the pasturize when you can just spend 20bucks and get it sent to your door ready to use?

I do understand the satisfaction of doing it yourself if you have the resources(horse) close and you need alot, but for some of us the country is an good hour away.
Also some of us think our time is worth more than our money.

sorry for the rant but theres a big diffrence in cityboy vs countryboy i guess.


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Re: Tenn Stud...I hope this works? [Re: goofy98]
    #4029913 - 04/08/05 09:32 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

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What broke redneck would actully want to clean a stable, Leach the poo, chop the straw, get the water right, and the pasturize when you can just spend 20bucks and get it sent to your door ready to use?





I would, except I'm not a broke redneck. Don't confuse poor fools with frugal folks that like to work with their hands. There is a difference, I for one would rather go work in the stable for an evening and come back with this to play with for a couple months:



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Re: Tenn Stud...I hope this works? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #4030194 - 04/08/05 11:40 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Think of the top layer of colonized birdseed as the dry vermiculite layer on a cake. It's there to help keep contam's from reaching the nutrient rich substrate underneath. Would you want your uncolonized BRF in the incubator with only plastic wrap with holes poked in it as your only barrier to contams. It says this right in the instructions for Tenn. Stud.
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Re: Tenn Stud...I hope this works? [Re: HippieChick]
    #4030219 - 04/08/05 11:57 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

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Think of the top layer of colonized birdseed as the dry vermiculite layer on a cake. It's there to help keep contam's from reaching the nutrient rich substrate underneath. Would you want your uncolonized BRF in the incubator with only plastic wrap with holes poked in it as your only barrier to contams. It says this right in the instructions for Tenn. Stud.
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I think whoever responded to you, thought you meant use the top layer as your ONLY contam barrier.

I agree that the colonized spawn layer on top helps...but foil or plastic wrap is still needed. I dont think you meant to disclude the foil/wrap, but I'm just sayin :smile:


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Re: Tenn Stud...I hope this works? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4031046 - 04/08/05 04:06 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Hey Scat, Yeah, I think that's what they thought. Colonized WBS instead of plastic and foil, instead of with. Everybodies like, where did you hear about this, where's the link? Like I thought of some great new thing or idea. Come on people, everybody seems to be going crazy over this Tenn. Stud substrate, which seems to be a great product for people without access to fresh poo, even want to try it myself, but let's read the information Mike has for it. Using the colonized spawn as a contam barrier is right there on the instruction page on his homepage. Take advantage of the information and Good Luck.
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Re: Tenn Stud...I hope this works? [Re: HippieChick]
    #4031126 - 04/08/05 04:31 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Top notch advice that agar gives as well IMO, definatly helps with every part of the process, a little spawn layer on top. I definatly recoomend it as well. I'm sure the TN Stud product is just fine. It is horse poop afterall. I havnt heard of "bad" horse poop yet :smile:


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Re: Tenn Stud...I hope this works? *DELETED* [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4031503 - 04/08/05 05:56 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Tenn Stud...I hope this works? [Re: supernaut]
    #4031528 - 04/08/05 06:04 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

As for mycelium poking through the top, this could very well happen before your poo is 100% colonized. May just be some spawn on top of the poo working it's way up before 100% colonization. Your whole timing of pinning may be messed up. You're right though, only time will tell. You might get a small flush, but not like if you had let the poo colonize and then case. Good Luck.
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Re: Tenn Stud...I hope this works? *DELETED* [Re: HippieChick]
    #4031600 - 04/08/05 06:18 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Tenn Stud...I hope this works? [Re: supernaut]
    #4031626 - 04/08/05 06:24 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Actually, vermiculite will prevent contam's. Coir does have a small amount of nutrious value. Ride it out. See what some of the other people suggest. Remember, what doesn't kill us, makes us better growers.
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Re: Tenn Stud...I hope this works? [Re: HippieChick]
    #4031782 - 04/08/05 06:55 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

hippie is pretty much right on point here. You will get shrooms and might have a little better chance of not getting contams.

But your yield will suffer. It just wont be an awesome fruiting.

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Re: Tenn Stud...I hope this works? [Re: goofy98]
    #4032774 - 04/09/05 12:45 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

I dont see not putting some spawn one top as being a real problem. Just a benefit if you do it.

Your seeing my poking up because it will grow out in all directions, so some bits are on the top. But if that poo isnt fully colonized (which it isnt yet) it wont fruit, until it is. That will lead you to not see fruits for probably 1.5-2 weeks at least...birth it now, and patch it...and I'd keep patching it for the next 4 days if it keeps comming up heavy and doesnt slow down when you birth it..otherwise you may be in for a bit of overlay. All in all this shouldnt be a huge problem though...horsey poo would work out with most anything you do :smile:


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Re: Tenn Stud...I hope this works? *DELETED* [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4036823 - 04/10/05 12:44 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Tenn Stud...I hope this works? [Re: supernaut]
    #4037115 - 04/10/05 02:37 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

You can add sterile verm to the pre pasteurized mix, but you may end up messing up the water content if the verm is to wet or to dry. I mix verm with my poo before pasteurizing, about 20% I'd say. Its a help but I dont know that I'd recommend it being added to poo already pasteurized, and already with a perfect water content. Coir works well to get a nice texture too.

Sounds good this time though other then that! add some verm to that starter mix though...that will be needed IMO..they put in very little verm and its powdered almost.


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