Home | Community | Message Board

Original Seeds Store
This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.


Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: Kraken Kratom Red Vein Kratom   North Spore Cultivation Supplies   Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Extract   Myyco.com Isolated Cubensis Liquid Culture For Sale   MagicBag.co Certified Organic All-In-One Grow Bags by Magic Bag   PhytoExtractum Kratom Powder for Sale   Mushroom-Hut Mono Tub Substrate

Jump to first unread post Pages: 1
Some of these posts are very old and might contain outdated information. You may wish to search for newer posts instead.
OfflineAndresko13
Stranger

Registered: 03/10/05
Posts: 32
Loc: Toronto, Canada
Last seen: 15 years, 6 months
P. cubensis potency *DELETED*
    #3995144 - 03/31/05 12:14 PM (19 years, 1 day ago)

Post deleted by Andresko13

Reason for deletion: Incriminating



--------------------
-AvS-

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleHeavyToilet
The Heaviest OfThem All
Male

Registered: 08/06/03
Posts: 9,458
Loc: British Columbia
Re: P. cubensis potency [Re: Andresko13]
    #3995149 - 03/31/05 12:17 PM (19 years, 1 day ago)

http://www.erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/mushrooms_info4.shtml

If you thought the last trip was too light then take some more. :tongue:

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinelemon_lw
Stranger

Registered: 10/17/04
Posts: 3,622
Loc: That Way
Last seen: 16 years, 6 months
Re: P. cubensis potency [Re: HeavyToilet]
    #3995313 - 03/31/05 12:59 PM (19 years, 1 day ago)

http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/12195

here is a good GUIDE on doseage and some good comparisons. enjoy.


--------------------
In the belly of the Leviathan, one can either despair and perish, or be cheerful and persevere.-Dean Koontz

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineAndresko13
Stranger

Registered: 03/10/05
Posts: 32
Loc: Toronto, Canada
Last seen: 15 years, 6 months
Re: P. cubensis potency *DELETED* [Re: lemon_lw]
    #3995427 - 03/31/05 01:26 PM (19 years, 1 day ago)

Post deleted by Andresko13

Reason for deletion: Incriminating



--------------------
-AvS-

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblegdman
badger, badger,badger...
Male User Gallery

Registered: 12/10/02
Posts: 16,286
Loc: Dancing In the Streets
Re: P. cubensis potency [Re: Andresko13]
    #3995447 - 03/31/05 01:30 PM (19 years, 1 day ago)

Odds are it was cubensis, if you bought them.


--------------------


Got a question about a substance?  Erowid might already have your answer! Have questions about the  mushroom experience? The  Tripper's FAQ may have your answer or someone else might have had your question before.
         
I know up on the top you are seeing great sights, but down at the bottom we, too, should have rights.
  - Theodor Seuss Geisel Dr. Suess

"I didn't come here to be easily understood" - Steve

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleZen Peddler
Male User Gallery

Registered: 06/18/01
Posts: 6,379
Loc: orbit
Re: P. cubensis potency [Re: Andresko13]
    #4011254 - 04/04/05 12:49 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

xxx


--------------------

Edited by Zen Peddler (02/02/07 04:26 AM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinealsey
meet me in thedreamtimewater...

Registered: 02/17/05
Posts: 1,203
Last seen: 15 years, 1 day
Re: P. cubensis potency [Re: Andresko13]
    #4011733 - 04/04/05 05:13 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

cubensis are by far the most common variety; the vast majority of shrooms sold will be cubensis. take 3 or 3.5g and see how it goes.

the only other species i've tried is p. azurescens, and they were damn strong. i only had 15g wet and it was one of my strongest shroom trips ever. usually it takes me 40g+ wet of cubies to get going. copelandia cyanescencs are supposedly the strongest species (the infamous hawaiians), but i've never tried them.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineAnnom
※※※※※※
 User Gallery

Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 12/22/02
Posts: 6,367
Loc: Europe
Last seen: 10 months, 6 days
Re: P. cubensis potency [Re: HeavyToilet] * 1
    #4011737 - 04/04/05 05:18 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

HeavyToilet said:
http://www.erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/mushrooms_info4.shtml

If you thought the last trip was too light then take some more. :tongue:




^^^^Please note that these do not represent average values for widely sampled populations^


Here are the results of a Dutch research:






Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleZen Peddler
Male User Gallery

Registered: 06/18/01
Posts: 6,379
Loc: orbit
Re: P. cubensis potency [Re: Annom] * 1
    #4015937 - 04/05/05 05:00 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Not really helpful, since one of those tables shows a mushroom labelled 'hawaiian' as being much more potent than azurescens...

Woodlovers are the strongest by light years... Ps.azurscens, cyanescens, subaeruginosa, aucklandii etc...


--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineAnnom
※※※※※※
 User Gallery

Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 12/22/02
Posts: 6,367
Loc: Europe
Last seen: 10 months, 6 days
Re: P. cubensis potency [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #4016046 - 04/05/05 06:18 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Why is it not really helpful? It contains only one measurement of Psilocybe Azurescens, so you can't say anything about the average potency of Psilocybe Azurescens.

I read the dutch report (I can post it if you want) and I think they used a very good and reliable research method.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinealsey
meet me in thedreamtimewater...

Registered: 02/17/05
Posts: 1,203
Last seen: 15 years, 1 day
Re: P. cubensis potency [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #4016175 - 04/05/05 07:42 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

bluemeanie said:
Not really helpful, since one of those tables shows a mushroom labelled 'hawaiian' as being much more potent than azurescens...

Woodlovers are the strongest by light years... Ps.azurscens, cyanescens, subaeruginosa, aucklandii etc...




hawaiians are generally copelandia cyanescens (aka panaeolus cyanescens), and are very potent. i don't know if they're more potent than azurescens, but i don't think there's much in it.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleAsante
Omnicyclion prophet
Male User Gallery

Registered: 02/06/02
Posts: 87,282
Re: P. cubensis potency [Re: Annom]
    #4016300 - 04/05/05 08:37 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

*sigh*

Since nobody would, I volunteered for the job.

Annom's graph showed 11 samples of Psilocybe Cubensis as sold in headshops in Holland. It calculated the weight in all possible ways but the one we do. We calculate from psilocin to psilocybin, the opposite of what they did.
So what did they find regarding commercial cubies:



Psilocybin-equivalents in dried Psilocybe Cubensis mushrooms.

Weakest shrooms: 1.7mg Psilocybin equiv./gram
Strongest shrooms: 11.2mg Psilocybin equiv./gram
Average strength: 5.8mg psilocybin equiv./gram


So to say it nifty:

average cubies as they are sold contain on average 6mg psilocybin per dried gram, but may be three times weaker or twice as strong.

Never let good, relevant, data go to waste!
Thanks ANNOM for providing the facts from the analytical laboratory.


--------------------
Omnicyclion.org
higher knowledge starts here

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblemjshroomer
Sage
Registered: 07/21/99
Posts: 13,774
Loc: gone with my shrooms
Re: P. cubensis potency [Re: Andresko13]
    #4016719 - 04/05/05 10:47 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

The question concerning the alledged Hawaiian: Is this the Hawaiian P. Cubensis which only occurs in vitro indoors in Hawaii or is it the Cope cyan Hawaiian grown throuoghout the Nederlands?

Also, the clinical dosage for Psilocybe cyubensis has not really changed in the past 48 years since Dr. Sam I Stein wrote and reported the first bad mushroom experinece after consuming in his lab, 5 dried grams of in vitro Psilocybe cubensis. At that time it was determined that 3-5 dried grasm would be the average clinical doasge.

3 1/2 for in vitro and 5 for naturally occuring shrooms.

Bigwood and Beug did some of the best cube analysis here in the PNW. here is the frerference to that work which is posted somewhere in a thread by me in the Shroomery Forums. Search for it and see . Not sure where.

Bigwood, Jeremy and Michael W. Beug. 1982. Variation of psilocybin and psilocin levels with repeated flushes (harvests) of mature sporocarps of Psilocybe cubensis (Earle) Singer. Journal of Ethnopharmacology vol. 5(3):287-291. May.
Analysis of Psilocybe cubensis grown in controlled cultures and the variation of tryptamine compounds from the 1st to the 4th flush.

mj

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineAnnom
※※※※※※
 User Gallery

Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 12/22/02
Posts: 6,367
Loc: Europe
Last seen: 10 months, 6 days
Re: P. cubensis potency [Re: mjshroomer]
    #4016909 - 04/05/05 11:32 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

mjshroomer said:
The question concerning the alledged Hawaiian: Is this the Hawaiian P. Cubensis which only occurs in vitro indoors in Hawaii or is it the Cope cyan Hawaiian grown throuoghout the Nederlands?





It's the copelandia cyanescens.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleZen Peddler
Male User Gallery

Registered: 06/18/01
Posts: 6,379
Loc: orbit
Re: P. cubensis potency *DELETED* [Re: alsey]
    #4024919 - 04/07/05 03:16 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Post deleted by bluemeanie

Reason for deletion: ,,



--------------------

Edited by Zen Peddler (02/02/07 04:23 AM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineAnnom
※※※※※※
 User Gallery

Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 12/22/02
Posts: 6,367
Loc: Europe
Last seen: 10 months, 6 days
Re: P. cubensis potency [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #4025662 - 04/07/05 10:21 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

I never said that Panaeolus cyanescens is more potent than Ps. azurescens. You said that the dutch research wasn't helpful and I explained why it is helpful.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleZen Peddler
Male User Gallery

Registered: 06/18/01
Posts: 6,379
Loc: orbit
Re: P. cubensis potency [Re: Annom]
    #4032615 - 04/08/05 09:39 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Soryy mate - nuffin personal. i just meant that it wasnt that helpful - but my second reply was to Alsey's post.


--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: 1

Shop: Kraken Kratom Red Vein Kratom   North Spore Cultivation Supplies   Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Extract   Myyco.com Isolated Cubensis Liquid Culture For Sale   MagicBag.co Certified Organic All-In-One Grow Bags by Magic Bag   PhytoExtractum Kratom Powder for Sale   Mushroom-Hut Mono Tub Substrate


Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Wet Potency v. Dry Potency
( 1 2 all )
RaggaBlood 8,622 20 10/26/05 02:47 PM
by wilshire
* Mushroom Potency Brain19 1,318 5 05/05/03 01:46 AM
by Xlea321
* How well do dried mushrooms retain potency? *DELETED* pB0t 2,506 5 04/04/04 08:51 PM
by Ginseng
* Abort Potency *DELETED* toolshroomer 841 2 04/12/03 06:27 PM
by Killjoy
* Comparing potencies of mushrooms Typingwords 2,716 4 10/07/02 03:21 PM
by Typingwords
* Species ?'s of potency updated from Erowid?
( 1 2 all )
socratesmind 5,998 20 10/02/02 10:29 AM
by socratesmind
* Potency
( 1 2 all )
gibber 4,737 22 09/01/04 10:40 PM
by Zen Peddler
* Other than cubensis thel0rax 2,893 10 12/29/02 11:59 PM
by Zen Peddler

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: psilocybinjunkie, Rose, mushboy, LogicaL Chaos, Northerner, bodhisatta
5,949 topic views. 1 members, 29 guests and 15 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2024 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.024 seconds spending 0.007 seconds on 14 queries.