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OfflineUnderhillmaster
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How long til I should feel safe from mean green?
    #4024434 - 04/07/05 02:32 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I am in the process of first attempts at large casings, lasagna pan size. I am running a big PMP that will hold 3 of these containers. I noticed a green spot on one of the casings. So I took it out of the PMP and put it in the an isolation container in another room. Sure enough, the next day, the whole casing was a greyish-green color. I took whole container to trash outside, dumped, and cleaned with bleach and water hose outside. My question is, how long til I should feel safe that my other 2 casings in my PMP are not going to get infected from teh green from the bad tray? I am not exactly sure if mold can become airborne and jump to my other casings. It has been about 48 hrs now since I took the bad one out and I have not seen any green on my other 2 casings. I am sorta worried, because my 2 hopefully good casings are at the 2-3 in tall phase, i.e. growing nicely. All 3 casings were done on 3 diff days, so hopefully the contam was only in 1 casing. Any ideas if I should be safe until picking time on my 2 good casings? Any help/advice would be appreciated.


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Re: How long til I should feel safe from mean green? [Re: Underhillmaster]
    #4024501 - 04/07/05 02:47 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

You'll see it by the time you harvest, if its gonna show up, most likly.


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Re: How long til I should feel safe from mean green? [Re: Underhillmaster]
    #4024541 - 04/07/05 02:54 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I would find some place safe to temporarily stash the 2 casings and thoroughly clean the PMP. Mold spores spread and there's a good chance that the PMP is full of them. You're never completely safe from the green.


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Re: How long til I should feel safe from mean green? [Re: dog]
    #4024581 - 04/07/05 03:03 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Is bleach good for cleaning my PMP? I hope so hehe. I actually have a very diluted bleach solution in my PMP. Since my casings are in containers with no holes, they only get the water thru humidity and my spray bottle which doesnt have bleach. I did it in the hopes that it would help with contams. On the bad casing, it only took a day or so for the green to totally dominate it. It has been over 2 days since I removed the bad one and the 2 good ones dont show any signs yet. I am hoping since it went so fast, it might mean that my other 2 are safe since it has been over 2 days. Hehe, guess I'm just worried. I will segregate these 2 casings and clean the PMP, although I dread it, lava rock is heavy lol.


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Re: How long til I should feel safe from mean green? [Re: Underhillmaster]
    #4024618 - 04/07/05 03:16 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah, breaking down the fruiting chamber to clean is always a pain in the ass.

Bleach is the best; it kills everything.


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Re: How long til I should feel safe from mean green? [Re: dog]
    #4024638 - 04/07/05 03:22 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

you can get green any time , the mane causes of green arnt cleanlyness,( becase the air is full of it) but rather lack of freash air too much humidity( dont go over 90 i dont care what paul said) and too much water in tray . you take a super healthy tray over water and snap the lid tight with no freah air you will have gren mold every time
oh amd PS Bleach is one of your best friends,its cheap and cleans like the dickens, just ask other home micro-hobbyest like homebrewers


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Re: How long til I should feel safe from mean green? [Re: Dem_Bones]
    #4025766 - 04/07/05 12:51 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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Dem_Bones said:
you can get green any time , the mane causes of green arnt cleanlyness,( becase the air is full of it) but rather lack of freash air too much humidity





moisture simply aids in the germination of the spores, the spores are in the air
so there's always the risk, filtered air is better than 'fresh air'


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Re: How long til I should feel safe from mean green? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #4025779 - 04/07/05 12:54 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

there not always in the air and cleanlyness does play a big factor,thats some bullshit advice


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Re: How long til I should feel safe from mean green? [Re: sludge]
    #4025790 - 04/07/05 12:59 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

mold spores are everywhere, if the wind blows the spores are carried, stepping
on your carpet disturbs them and gets them stirred into the air a well, as you
said, cleanliness does play a very big factor in it.


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Re: How long til I should feel safe from mean green? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #4025805 - 04/07/05 01:03 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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mold spores are everywhere, if the wind blows the spores are carried, stepping
on your carpet disturbs them and gets them stirred into the air a well, as you
said, cleanliness does play a very big factor in it.


thats one reason i just had my carpet cleaned really good,so far i havent had a prob. with the green but im a very clean person so i clean everything on a daily basis.


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Re: How long til I should feel safe from mean green? [Re: sludge]
    #4026185 - 04/07/05 02:38 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Well I am semi lucky in that I have wood floors throughout my apartment:) I have holes in the tops of my PMP's with rubber circles with a screw so I can make a variable size opening. I am needing to use these openings at the moment to lower my humidity below 90%. With em closed the humidity is 90-95%. I have 2 18" air curtains in 90qt sterilite(approximately 3'x1'x1'). My casings are showing impressive growth and I believe there is enough air exchange. I was under the impression that I didn't need to really worry about incoming air through my top holes because of air being displaced by the air curtains. Now I am not so sure. I am working towards building a martha setup, but it won't be for a week or two, so these casings will need to run their course in the PMP. Maybe I should put some polyfil in the holes? Well, if I got it contained, that will be only 1 out of 9 lost to green on first attempt at least to this point. Thanks to this site and the wonderful helpful people. I have been doing this less than 3months and just hit 1pound dry just from cakes total to date:) Can't wait to see how casings and wbs go over the next 3months lol.


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Re: How long til I should feel safe from mean green? [Re: Dem_Bones]
    #4030287 - 04/08/05 12:21 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Isn't an overly acidic casing also a breeding ground for green, or am I thinking of some other contam?


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Re: How long til I should feel safe from mean green? [Re: Aeolus1369]
    #4030300 - 04/08/05 12:24 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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Aeolus1369 said:
Isn't an overly acidic casing also a breeding ground for green, or am I thinking of some other contam?




You are correct, trich loves acidic environments. A big reason to buffer, even coir, with a long term buffer


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How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: How long til I should feel safe from mean green? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4032011 - 04/08/05 08:09 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I have a buffer in my casing layer. I am using hydrated lime. My other 2 casings from that PMP are nearing harvest in the next day or so. My shrooms are growing very stocky and short. At least compared to my pf cakes with the same strain. These 2 casings are only colonized wbs cased with 50/50 verm/peat. Maybe that has something to do with it. I have some newer casings where I mixed in some verm with the wbs that are at the pinning stage. I will see if they grow different. At least the green seems to have been contained and eliminated for the moment.


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