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OfflineGNIOM1498
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tahoe"heat drying not okay"
    #4023899 - 04/07/05 12:19 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

akaloids break down at 105 so below 105 u would be okay right? so at 100 or 104 should be no difference in potency then if dried at room temp. so by heat u mean above 105?


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Re: tahoe"heat drying not okay" [Re: GNIOM1498]
    #4023957 - 04/07/05 12:29 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

use a food dehydrator cranked up all the way, end up with a 2 gram dry weight. Dry 2 grams with no heat. Now eat the 2 grams the were heat dried, wait 2 weeks and eat the other 2. You tell me. Actually since placebo will comeinto play with the shrooms,have your friend give you the shrooms and he cant tell you which ones he gace you until you have eaten both. Now tell me which were stronger.
I guess you have never had the problem of drying pounds of fungus at a time or else you would be a firm believer of a dehydrator


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Re: tahoe"heat drying not okay" [Re: tahoe]
    #4023987 - 04/07/05 12:35 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I'm SOOOOOO glad to hear someone else speak of the placebo effect. Maybe it's a MI thing and nobody believes in it, but I KNOW EXACTLY what you mean... have you heard about the all the cancer patients healed simply by the placebo effect?


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Re: tahoe"heat drying not okay" [Re: Clozedeyez20]
    #4024007 - 04/07/05 12:40 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Mushrooms are a very psychosematic thing...if you believe it will, than they can make it happen just because you believe it. I guess in that way, they could be more potent...but do they contain more alkaloids? I dont think so.

By the way, alkaloids dont break down at 105. Psilocin might..but the drying process alone breaks most of that down (if not all)...psilocybin however can withstand much higher temps..and thats most of the two thats in dried specimens anyway. I'm sure you could dry up to 150, even a little higher without any noticable alkaloid difference from a dried specimen without heat. I use a food dehydrator that get 100-120...no noticable potency difference was noted among dozens of people from when I dried with a fan and desiccant.


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Re: tahoe"heat drying not okay" [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4024022 - 04/07/05 12:45 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

ok ok never mind im very out of it school and work is killing me plus i am addicted to this board. I read it wrong i thought u meant it wasn't okay...god i am an idiot.....ya i use a dehydrator and i tried fan drying and the dehydrator i noticed to be more potent. SORRY STUPID POST FUCK!


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Re: tahoe"heat drying not okay" [Re: GNIOM1498]
    #4024262 - 04/07/05 01:44 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

If it were true that psilocybin broke down at such a low temperature, then many mushrooms that grow in the wild would have no potency. You think of places like Mexico where temperatures can easily break 100 degrees and we all know that those mushrooms definitely contain active psilocybin.


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Re: tahoe"heat drying not okay" [Re: PowerTrip]
    #4026276 - 04/07/05 03:00 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Some helpful comments here. I was starting to worry about my dehydrator a bit because the 95degree setting = 110 inside upon measuring. I had some negative feedback on a batch and was concerned that heat was the culprit. I have dried more since with dehydrator and got positive feedback, so I think I just had one of those random not so potent batches. Time to search consignment stores and pawn shops for more trays for mine hehe.


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Re: tahoe"heat drying not okay" [Re: Underhillmaster]
    #4027931 - 04/07/05 09:03 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

ya all my ones done in the dehydrator are better then just fan


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Re: tahoe"heat drying not okay" [Re: GNIOM1498]
    #4028338 - 04/07/05 10:18 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

>akaloids break down at 105 so below 105 u would be okay right?

Which alkaloids break down at 105?F?

For sure NOT psilocybin and psilocin.
Read http://www.erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/mushrooms_chemistry.shtml


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Re: tahoe"heat drying not okay" [Re: Anno]
    #4028427 - 04/07/05 10:37 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Why the hell would you even want to risk it and dry shrooms at a high temp? Christ just stick them in front of a fan thats all they need.

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Re: tahoe"heat drying not okay" [Re: tahoe]
    #4028537 - 04/07/05 10:59 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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I guess you have never had the problem of drying pounds of fungus at a time or else you would be a firm believer of a dehydrator





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Re: tahoe"heat drying not okay" [Re: kronnyQ]
    #4028546 - 04/07/05 11:00 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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lol ditto...But i guess some people do it for more of a social gathering than for just personal use, or maybe they deal :wink:, so they need an alt. way....Or they just do it to get a rise out of people or jus do it for the sake of knowing, :shrug:
Either one sounds like a good reason to test it out lol

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Re: tahoe"heat drying not okay" [Re: SoopaX]
    #4028565 - 04/07/05 11:06 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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tahoe said:

I guess you have never had the problem of drying pounds of fungus at a time or else you would be a firm believer of a dehydrator





U R MR COOL1!!!!11!!!!!!!



hmmm, so you stand alone


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Re: tahoe"heat drying not okay" [Re: tahoe]
    #4028572 - 04/07/05 11:07 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

:rotfl:

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Re: tahoe"heat drying not okay" [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #4028851 - 04/07/05 11:59 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I got a dehydrator simply for the fact that it takes about 5 hours on the low setting as opposed to more than a day with fan drying/desiccant. Its also alot more stealth than a load of mushrooms laying out with a fan blowing on them.


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Re: tahoe"heat drying not okay" [Re: GNIOM1498]
    #4029043 - 04/08/05 12:56 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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GNIOM1498 said:
akaloids break down at 105 so below 105 u would be okay right? so at 100 or 104 should be no difference in potency then if dried at room temp. so by heat u mean above 105?




might be skightly confused with the thermal death temo of (i bekieve) 106.
don't you hate the quote function?


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