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How do you feel "changed" after psychedelics ?
#4022839 - 04/06/05 06:31 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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If you don't want to read this, just skip to the bottom. I'm sorry about the length I just like to explain myself fully so there are no misunderstandings.
Alright, I've been to a lot of forums, and I've asked many people all sorts of questions about drugs, psychs in general. I used to be very nervous and had question after question after question, usually driving the person crazy. but lately (after my first and only trip, ironically) I realized that I should just chill out and not worry so much.
So as a result, I don't plan on making too many threads here at shroomery asking about the experience (which can't be explained in words anyway..). I only have _one_ main concern/inquiery that I would like to discuss. Please bear with me if you've answered it before, but it is the only thing about shrooms and other psychs that I'm a bit stressed about..
My first trip was 2g with my best friend. We are now even closer, and it was one of the best times of my life. We laughed so hard we cried, and took a 3 hour long walk which involved a playground, starbucks, trippy graffiti covered alley etc. Anyways, I want to "take it to the next level," because I didn't experience full visuals or very abstract thought patterns. I only felt "very different" and saw stuff rippling and breathing. I believe I'm ready for it (I was htinking on taking 2.5-3g next time), but the only thing I'm concerned about is being "changed" after a higher-level trip. I'm not sure if 2.5-3 is enough to do that, but I'm still asking anyway for doses beyond that (like 3.5-4)
After taking only 2g, I now realize the power of shrooms (I didn't feel it per se, but I recognized it's presence). I want to take a higher dose, but from every person I have heard who has, they have all said they changed very much from before their trip (and now they usually say they are more lonely feeling). Basically right now, I love the way things are going and how I think, but I also would like to "see the bigger picture" and get the most out of shrooms, as I'm really interested in that sort of thing. I'm mainly concerned about being 'changed' in a way I don't like, and then not being able to go back. It's like I want to see what's in store, but not ruin it for myself by realizing how much reality is not what it seems. Could you please tell me in detail how you feel after a medium-high level trip? Do you feel lonely, depressed, less social etc. afterwards? ANYTHING you wish to tell me about how you felt before/after or anythinge lse, I would greatly appreciate it.
Thanks dudes, Sorry again for the length.
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Re: How do you feel "changed" after psychedelics ? [Re: Limelight]
#4022921 - 04/06/05 06:47 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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After a dose which you are saying (2.5-3 grams dried), I have never come out of the trip feeling worse. I almost always have a more profound thinking pattern, and if not that... a really good memory of a perfectly spent afternoon. As for long term, I have never heard of anyone getting more depressed or changed for the worse... on that small of a dose. Before you dose again, make sure your ready for what your getting into and be in the right mindset and place. Happy trippin' yo.
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Re: How do you feel "changed" after psychedelics ? [Re: Limelight]
#4022930 - 04/06/05 06:48 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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***you coulda worded that better***
plus i think if you really believe the experences changes you, they probably will,but its only a self fulfilling prophecy, just like if you chant "im sad" all day you'll probably feel sad
other than that psychedelics can be great for emotional experiences, creative ideas,great memories and fun times
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Re: How do you feel "changed" after psychedelics ? [Re: Limelight]
#4022931 - 04/06/05 06:49 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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I have only tripped two times the first time was 3g and the second only 1g. After my first trip with my best friend ,who I am really close to now that we have tripped, I have a different out look on life and feel more close to the world and my surroundings. My friend has also noticed this. My second trip I did alone in my room and it was a different less spiritual high and more and a see "cartoons" and laugh sorta trip. The shrooms I got from what I hear were really good and the best that my friend had ever had. Now that it has been a month or so from my trips I feel less changed but the thoughts are faint but still on my mind and probably always will be. Even with the thoughts and "changed feeling" I would love to do more but shrooms aren't very common around my area...
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Re: How do you feel "changed" after psychedelics ? [Re: Dazed]
#4023280 - 04/06/05 07:50 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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Alright I think this needs explanation because people tend to take this "changed" thing the wrong way.
People change, yes, but it's not like an explicit change. You may have the world FIGURED OUT on Shrooms, but the next day you are just going to remember what you were thinking, but you won't FEEL it anymore. You won't truly understand what it was you were thinking, or how you felt.
The change is -implicit- . It's just there. You won't be able to go through a mental checklist and go "Oh, my psyche changed here, here, umm...oh, here defenitely, and...oh, haha. There. big time."
It's just not like that. You'll feel mostly the same when you wake up the next day. But you'll have good memories to work off of, and you might not look at some things the same way.
You might never look at Grafitti again in the same way because you experienced it differently. It's just different, but it's not explicit. You'll still experience the grafitti, but..not 100% the same.
Does that make sense?
People tend to overinflate this "change" thing. Change takes time more than ANYTHING. Mushrooms and psychedelics can change, but not like time can. You'll still be you after 5g.
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Re: How do you feel "changed" after psychedelics ? [Re: Limelight]
#4023311 - 04/06/05 07:55 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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you're going to be changed. just like any significant experience in your life, a shroom trip will affect the way you think and percieve yourself, the world, and your place in it. think of it like eating from the tree of knowledge. you're bailing out on ignorant bliss and taking a chance at new and more profound kinds of bliss. but you could see the new world you encounter through entheogens and it might make you melancholy, lonely, or confused. just like any new understanding.
after first using psychedelics, I started to notice a divide between people who "had" and people who "hadn't". it was weird to think that there is a world out there that a ton of people will never experience, and BAM, you just experienced it. it's kind of a special feeling, and kind of depressing at the same time.
other intangible negative effects I've felt are all in relation to new knowledge. a sort of new grip on existentialism that can feel like the carpet was pulled out from under your cosmology. writer's block (what the fuck do I have to say to the world?).
all that shit is difficult to grapple with, but (I think) part of the path to becoming a more complete,sublime human.
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Re: How do you feel "changed" after psychedelics ? [Re: freddurgan]
#4023634 - 04/06/05 09:23 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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freddurgan said: Alright I think this needs explanation because people tend to take this "changed" thing the wrong way.
People change, yes, but it's not like an explicit change. You may have the world FIGURED OUT on Shrooms, but the next day you are just going to remember what you were thinking, but you won't FEEL it anymore. You won't truly understand what it was you were thinking, or how you felt.
The change is -implicit- . It's just there. You won't be able to go through a mental checklist and go "Oh, my psyche changed here, here, umm...oh, here defenitely, and...oh, haha. There. big time."
It's just not like that. You'll feel mostly the same when you wake up the next day. But you'll have good memories to work off of, and you might not look at some things the same way.
You might never look at Grafitti again in the same way because you experienced it differently. It's just different, but it's not explicit. You'll still experience the grafitti, but..not 100% the same.
Does that make sense?
People tend to overinflate this "change" thing. Change takes time more than ANYTHING. Mushrooms and psychedelics can change, but not like time can. You'll still be you after 5g.
Excellent reply man (and also to you turnpike), you really helped a lot and explained it well  I'm not concerned anymore, and that's saying a lot, heh.
I'm curious though, what 'earthly' objects (such as the things you encounter when you're tripping, like the graffiti) do you think of differently, and how? This isn't because i'm worried, I'm just wondering. I've heard some people feel that they realize how primitive humans are, but that's really all I've heard.
Thanks again 
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Re: How do you feel "changed" after psychedelics ? [Re: Limelight]
#4024947 - 04/07/05 03:38 AM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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i've certainly changed as a person since i started using psychedelics, but the change has been slow and gradual. eating some shrooms won't change you dramatically (in most cases); it will most likely subtlely alter your views of the world (including yourself).
psychedelics open your mind for a few hours; they give you a glimpse of an alternative outlook, a different world. its up to you after the trip whether you continue thinking about that stuff and actually take on that different outlook. its like watching the trailer to a movie. after watching the trailer, you can either go and watch the movie or not.
how i feel after a trip varies. with shrooms, i usually have depressing come-downs that last about 6-12 hours. with acid, i'm left with a peaceful afterglow that sometimes lasts for a few days.
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Re: How do you feel "changed" after psychedelics ? [Re: krin]
#4025018 - 04/07/05 05:32 AM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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Krin hush dear.. :P
I find that shrooms do very slightly change you. I've found myself playing my bass more and opening my mind up to new types of music(I heard a bunch of electronic stuff on shrooms, mind blowing stuff!) and some particular objects I find hilarious because of memories of them.
It won't suddenly turn you into a new age hippy who decides we all need to love the earth and dedicate our soul to the mother spirit that's for sure!
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Re: How do you feel "changed" after psychedelics ? [Re: Shroomehlouah]
#4025380 - 04/07/05 08:41 AM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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I couldn't even tell you how I've changed. I just have =/
Wait, here we go. Earthly objects? Computers.
I hate them - I hate them so, so, so much. I devoted so much of my life to them and I just grew to be sickened by them more and more. That's one thing that my perception changed on. And it's probably the biggest thing that changed. I changed my major because of it, I'm a Psych major now.
And other things. It just basically gave me a good shaking, and I'm more open to new things now. I'm not gonna lie, I'm like a lot of folks from the 60's. Psychedelics got me started on eastern religion.
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Re: How do you feel "changed" after psychedelics ? [Re: freddurgan]
#4025454 - 04/07/05 09:02 AM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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freddurgan said: And other things. It just basically gave me a good shaking, and I'm more open to new things now. I'm not gonna lie, I'm like a lot of folks from the 60's. Psychedelics got me started on eastern religion.
same here. i'm not quite buddhist yet, but i'm heading that way.
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Re: How do you feel "changed" after psychedelics ? [Re: alsey]
#4025606 - 04/07/05 09:58 AM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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i've never really done big doeses, but even with the smaller (< 3.5 g) doeses i noticed changes in the way i look at the world especially related to nature. Trees are more *significant* now. Their branches arn't just there gettin' sunlight like they used to be. Instead they're "reaching." Things like streets and sweage systems seem strikingly similar to vascular systems. Somehow, thats *important*. Also, i feel more like a creature.
check it out: streets Drainage Vascular Est? loco.
However, other drugs have changed me too. Take alcohol. I hated the blues till i started drinking!
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Re: How do you feel "changed" after psychedelics ? [Re: Limelight]
#4025642 - 04/07/05 10:14 AM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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The last trip I had was in Shenandoah and the trip was the most insightful I've had. When I was tripping, I was being explained the reasons I think the things I do. In all honesty, I think that had something to do with being on top of the Appalachian mountains. I learned a lot on that trip.. Well anyways, after the trip, I now have a better understanding on different types of people, but it's hazy to think about it while i'm not tripping.
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Re: How do you feel "changed" after psychedelics ? [Re: freddurgan]
#4026289 - 04/07/05 01:04 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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freddurgan said: I couldn't even tell you how I've changed. I just have =/
Wait, here we go. Earthly objects? Computers.
I hate them - I hate them so, so, so much. I devoted so much of my life to them and I just grew to be sickened by them more and more. That's one thing that my perception changed on. And it's probably the biggest thing that changed. I changed my major because of it, I'm a Psych major now.
And other things. It just basically gave me a good shaking, and I'm more open to new things now. I'm not gonna lie, I'm like a lot of folks from the 60's. Psychedelics got me started on eastern religion.
Ahh, I would have never thought computers. Interesting..
Btw.. this is going out on a limb, but I assume it's just coincidence that every person I know (at least 7) who have tripped, every one of them doesnt care about their looks, freinds and so on. They all seem to live like a hermit crab in it's shell, not shaving, not taking showers, not talking to their friends. They also all act VERY weird, like they mumble and mutter to themselves, talk about strange things (i'm not saying this is bad, they just act very weird compared to my other freinds, and personally i wouldnt want to be like they are). It's just strange to me that every one is like that, and my other freinds who haven't tried lsd, shrooms, other drugs are "normal" acting/looking. Kind of weird.. and I'm hoping it really is just coincidence and they aren't like that because of "what they have seen."
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Re: How do you feel "changed" after psychedelics ? [Re: Limelight]
#4026855 - 04/07/05 03:02 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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That's really interesting Limelight my Friend who as tripped several times on shrooms and one time on LSD is like what you have described and he used to be a very normal energetic teenager. I have known him for most of my life and have noticed that he has changed and now is more in a different world... not completely noticeable but sense I have known him for years I can tell. I never thought it was from drugs but just him...could it be from his acid trip?
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Re: How do you feel "changed" after psychedelics ? [Re: Limelight]
#4026869 - 04/07/05 03:05 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hahaha, oh man. I hear ya big time there.
That's probably pretty hard to pin down. I know I went through that phase. I never got my hair cut, I never shaved. I still showered and stuff, and I talked to my freinds.
Honestly your description makes some of your friends sound pretty wierd and messed up. But it's PROBABLY just the fact that they are shocked, and just aren't thinking about the same shit anymore. Instead of thinking about pimpin their car they are thinking about infinite oneness or buddhism or captialism or some other stuff like that.
And haircuts and shaving? I dunno..I just didn't care for a while. "Fuck fashion, that's some shallow bullshit. Love me for who I am damnit."
But I get haircuts now cause I look like a slob without one, and I shave because of the same reasons. And I always shower lol, and I always talk to my friends.
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Re: How do you feel "changed" after psychedelics ? [Re: Limelight]
#4026929 - 04/07/05 03:20 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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after doing psychedelics people often become less bothered with appearances and more bothered with what people are actually like on the inside. some take this to extremes - one acid head i know hardly ever washes, looks like shit basically. most people's reaction to him is 'wierd', but he's a rare case IMO (the guy's actually a legend once you get to know him).
normality is a subjective thing. basically people who are similar to you, you percieve as normal. people different to you, you percieve as wierd. if psychedelics change someone enough that they become significantly different to you, you will percieve them as 'wierd'.
similar thing with your tripping friends talking about 'strange things'. you percieve these things as strange because you're not familiar with the stuff they've experienced, and unfamiliar = strange basically.
one thing psyhedelics helped me to understand is that no one is 'wierd', people are just different, and there's nothing wrong with difference.
one problem people sometimes get after using psychedelics is alienation. i've experienced it very slightly. its where you can't connect properly with non-trippers because you've experienced things they simply don't understand.
psychedelics are like the blue pill and the red pill in the matrix. you can choose to do the drugs and see things in a different way, and never be able to completely go back to the old way, or you can leave the drugs alone and never see things in that different way. the choice is yours.
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Re: How do you feel "changed" after psychedelics ? [Re: Limelight]
#4026963 - 04/07/05 03:28 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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I feel cleansed. Like my being just went through the spiritual spas and i came out anew. I don't feel anything but good after a trip, and usually i feel even better while tripping. If you do an 1/8, which would be just a bit more than 3 grams, 3.5, then you're starting to reach the doses that will reach that "higher" level you're talking about. I haven't been there too many times, but it's quite incredible. Just be as prepared as you can be, and like you already said, the best to do is just chill out and go with it. Know that it's a drug and that whatever's happening, at some point you will return. You're mind might be changed about a few issues, but that will happen naturally, as regular thoughts do. You'll just be having around ten thousand of them a second...
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Re: How do you feel "changed" after psychedelics ? [Re: Hrethic]
#4027172 - 04/07/05 04:04 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hmm... you're guy's replies aren't to reassuring. I'm sure it's great knowing all the things you do, and having your thought processes change, but I like who I am :/ I like all my freinds and so on.. The few people on my hall who have tripped (hard) - no one likes them, and they seem like loners. WHo knows, they may be way happier than me and they just dont' care, but I actually kind of prefer how I am.
This is such a difficult and tenebrous problem On one hand I want to "go there" and on the other hand I don't want to be TOO different. I don't mind thinking a little differently, but if I take acid or a high mushy trip and end up like that, I think I'd rather stay where I am, even if they are happier.
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Re: How do you feel "changed" after psychedelics ? [Re: Limelight]
#4027196 - 04/07/05 04:08 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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By the way, please keep in mind im not downtalking people who are different. hell, everyone I meet says "damn.. i can't say i've ever met anyone like you." I like being unique, i just don't want to take it to an extreme and be somewhat outcast and have no friends as a result of the dark realms i have experienced.
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#4027235 - 04/07/05 04:16 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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It seems most people I know who trip alot are a little manic depressive, like everything seems very intense to them, and so they are very emotional. I felt like that for a couple of weeks after my first trip.
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Re: How do you feel "changed" after psychedelics ? [Re: Limelight]
#4027238 - 04/07/05 04:16 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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Well.... let me try another way..
Psychedelics, for me, haven't changed a thing about me. For the very short times that i've been under their influence they've changed some chemistry in my brain and probably some other stuff that i wasn't aware of, but other than that they haven't changed a thing. I've change who i am, and how i think. The only reason that i associate tripping and a changed perspective is because they temporarily let me change my perspective, and see things differently. Nothing permanant was done on account of the drugs, all the changes were my choice.
It's all in you. If you want a change you will seek it out, if you like who you are then you like who you are.
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Re: How do you feel "changed" after psychedelics ? [Re: Limelight]
#4027400 - 04/07/05 04:44 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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psychedelics let you see something different. that is all. its just like when people talk about life-changing books. not everyone who reads them changes. the book just shows the reader something he has never really thought about before, and upon thinking about it he changes.
some people read the bible and their life is changed, some read the catcher in the rye and change, sometimes getting to know a new person will change people, sometimes moving to live in a different area will change people, someteimes doing psychedelic drugs will change people. people change through experiences - that's the nature of life. psychedelic experiences can be quite intense, so the changes brought about by them can be quite significant. some people will read or do all the things above and remain pretty much the same person.
maybe right now you're very happy with your life the way it is and you don't want to experience anything different. that's fine. but you also have to accept that you are constantly, although gradually, changing through the experiences you have. that's how personality is developed. an intense experience, such as a strong psychedelic trip, just speeds up the process.
people try to attach themselves to things they percieve as good, and try to reject what they see as bad. when someone is in a 'good' phase of their life, they don't want to change. when in 'bad' phase, they are desperate for change. if we could just accept change as a constant thing; neither fighting it nor craving it, we would probably live more peaceful and content lives. but damn, i'm getting too philosophical now.
the chances are if you do psychedelic drugs; you will have some fun, think about stuff a bit more than usual and probably come out with some subtle changes to your outlook on life. you can still have all your old friends and do the things you used to do. almost everyone who does psychedelics believe they are better for the experience.
my friends who do psychedelics are not loners (except for that total acid-head i mentioned). they are all well-liked and very friendly people.
to be honest i think if you had a strong acid trip or something, you'd end up thinking 'dude, why the hell did i used to think like that?'. but its your decision. like i said about the matrix analogy. you can either see what there is to see and learn from it, or you can stick with what you know and love. either way is perfectly fine; psychedelic drugs aren't for everyone.
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Re: How do you feel "changed" after psychedelics ? [Re: alsey]
#4027568 - 04/07/05 05:20 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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We'll I believe that a mind-blowing trip is very beneficial. Even if it changes you, you wont be changed forever... probably only for a few months, but after that you'll come back to the same old "you", and your ego will become fully intact again.
After a while, you'll probably just shrug it off as another experience of life.
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Re: How do you feel "changed" after psychedelics ? [Re: Ginseng1]
#4028478 - 04/07/05 08:48 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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shrooms maye change the way you think somewhat (it did for me). it tends to be that right after the trip u feel like ur going to make drastic changes to ur life (one time on the comedown of 5g shrooms/xtc, a friend and i decided we were going to move to costa rica and live on a farm for the rest of our lives, although its usually nothing like that!) and then u end up not changing that much, although its still kind of in the back of your mind.
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Re: How do you feel "changed" after psychedelics ? [Re: PS_Cubes]
#4028576 - 04/07/05 09:08 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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PS_Cubes said: I have never come out of the trip feeling worse. I almost always have a more profound thinking pattern
Tripping has changed me a lot...and all in extremely positive ways. Words cannot describe what a wonderful gift psychedelics, LSD & mushrooms in particular have been to me. No need to fear my friend, when you delve inside you find yourself.
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Re: How do you feel "changed" after psychedelics ? [Re: Dark_Star]
#4029320 - 04/08/05 12:45 AM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yeah some of the things people have said are pretty true, but they are flawed in a lot of ways.
Like..all of my friends who trip are loners. Pretty dark..kinda deep, you know. Fuck TV, fuck petty conversation, smoke a lot of cigs. But they weren't mad social BEFORE either. They just stayed loners. All of my friend and I are loners.
I think maybe you're thinking too hard on this. The people in your hall who eat psychedelics, and nobody likes them, they probably wouldn't like them anyway.
And I've recently started to doubt the whole "Get along with people who have tripped" thing. I know a lot of people who have tripped and I'm really not all that comfortable around them. Sure they've eaten acid. So what? It doesn't mean we are anything alike or I like being around them.
I'm not sure how you went from feeling better after my first post to talking yourself into not taking another dose by the last post.
You're thinking about this too much. Just relax, they are just some mushrooms. They aren't any small thing, but I think you've created a monster inside your head that isn't there. You'll still be you. Mushrooms dont MAKE anything change, they just allow you to change if you want to.
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Re: How do you feel "changed" after psychedelics ? [Re: freddurgan]
#4029382 - 04/08/05 01:18 AM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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From my own experience I can say that my aesthetic appreciation of things has been greatly enhanced as well as my ability to see patterns in nature. Ever since my first trip nature, escpecially plants, has seemed much more mathematical to me.
However, on a more serious level there have been other changes. These are not things I believe that everyone does or will experience, but my disposition towards being hyper-analytical and thinking too much allows them to happen. What I notice is that I am aware of such a vast and large reality that sometimes it fascinates me, overwhelms me or freaks me out. I can just run around in circles trying to understand infinity, or even my own existence. The world does not appear as solid as it used to and I can see through much more of the bullshit and fantasy of our world and human interaction in general. Freinds of mine have let this strengthen a sense of alienation and superiority, which I try to avoid.
If you are SERIOUS, then you may have a serious trip. In which case you may find that your emotional growth is greatly accelerated to a possibly uncomfortable level (not necessarily bad) and your conceptual thinking could get tied in knots trying to understand the expereince. Or not. You could just have a really good time. My advice is that when you trip, don't aim for a specific kind, or try to avoid an expereinces. Whether it is fun or spiritually intense, if you accept it, keep an open heart, don't intellectualize too much, and make use of whatever insights you get, you will not come back a worse person.
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Re: How do you feel "changed" after psychedelics ? [Re: Divided_Sky]
#4029455 - 04/08/05 02:06 AM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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Psychadelics dont CHANGE you. you change you and the psychadelics only help you get to where you need to. People may go through that phase of being loners, but more than likely, if they trip, theyll evolve out of it. Its sort of like you just go through shock and you realize that the material things dont really matter...and you want to just go to the extremem and cast it all off. But eventually, youll realize that you live in society. It doesnt matter if you hate it. Dont deny yourself human relations because you dislike the inner workings of society.
THese are all realizations you can make without psychadelics...but they can push you into this direction at a much quicker rate. Youre thinking will simply evolve to new places...as if maturing yourself. Dont worry about changing. Its really much less of a deal than youd think.
Mushrooms are extremely natural and if anything will only push you into your natural progression. Rarely do you have 'earth shaking' realizations that change the rest of your life. Trust me, if its just a stupid realization, youll become sober and realize its dumb...shrooms wont lead you down some path that you dont want to go, you lead you down that path.
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Re: How do you feel "changed" after psychedelics ? [Re: Veter]
#4029512 - 04/08/05 02:46 AM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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Shrooms - showed me how fun insanity can be. LSA - showed me that a trip doesn't always need to be "powerfull" to be fun. LSD - showed me what my mind can really do when jet fuel is put into the imagination. DXM - Showed my my 1st "spirit guide". DXM+LSA - Showed me that schizofrinia (sp?) can be fun. Mescaline - Don't know yet  Weed - Showed me that being a bum isn't cool or fun for me. Crack - (smoked once w/ a buddy as a joke to call eachother crack heads) showed me that some drugs can be very ugly. Opium - Showed me the dragon is worth chasing.
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Re: How do you feel "changed" after psychedelics ? [Re: thenewuser]
#4030105 - 04/08/05 09:04 AM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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Alright awesome, I understand now better what you guys are talking about. Freddurgan, you said a good line that i'm not gonna forget. you said i've created a monster in my head that isn't there. That's probably got it right on the head, so I've decided to just go with it now. It's also good to know that you wont change if you don't want to, it's only if you accept it. By the way, I never decided against taking them after your post, it just made me concerned more.
Now i'm cool though, and im taking them after exams in a week or two
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Re: How do you feel "changed" after psychedelics ? [Re: thenewuser]
#4030109 - 04/08/05 09:07 AM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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thenewuser said: Shrooms - showed me how fun insanity can be. LSA - showed me that a trip doesn't always need to be "powerfull" to be fun. LSD - showed me what my mind can really do when jet fuel is put into the imagination. DXM - Showed my my 1st "spirit guide". DXM+LSA - Showed me that schizofrinia (sp?) can be fun. Mescaline - Don't know yet  Weed - Showed me that being a bum isn't cool or fun for me. Crack - (smoked once w/ a buddy as a joke to call eachother crack heads) showed me that some drugs can be very ugly. Opium - Showed me the dragon is worth chasing.
Heh. I've only tried opium, weed, and shrooms. I wish I could try LSD Also, what is mescaline supposed to be like? I heard it's way more intense than shrooms. I dunno though, that's just what they said.
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Re: How do you feel "changed" after psychedelics ? [Re: Limelight]
#4030927 - 04/08/05 01:22 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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More intense than shrooms? Well it lasts longer, but I think it is actually more mild, mentally anyway. The body high might be more intense.
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Re: How do you feel "changed" after psychedelics ? [Re: Divided_Sky]
#4031095 - 04/08/05 02:24 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yeah it seems mescaline is the most mysterious of all psychedelics because nobody has done it, or at least very very few. I know I haven't.
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Re: How do you feel "changed" after psychedelics ? [Re: freddurgan]
#4031225 - 04/08/05 03:00 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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mescaline is one of the few drugs i still want to try. that and DMT. i'm gonna get some peyote when i have my own house next year. if only i could get those pellets they have in fear and loathing.
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Re: How do you feel "changed" after psychedelics ? [Re: PS_Cubes]
#4877439 - 10/31/05 09:36 PM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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There is, after your first good trip..a bit of an awkward feeling. Like you don't belong to the world, or that everything has been laid bare, all lies exposed, and the world as it is can seem kinda ugly and dull compared to how alive and motivated you felt as you were peaking..the world seems so beautiful at that moment that the next day everything else, the everyday world seems so fake, so unimportant, that it makes you a bit sad.
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Re: How do you feel "changed" after psychedelics ? [Re: Pax]
#4877835 - 10/31/05 10:36 PM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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I ate ~4.5g on my first time out and it deffinetly changed my outlook on life. "I" realized that "I" am not static. "I" am ever changing. "I" am a different person now than "I" was before I started writing this post because the action of writing this post and the corresponding thought processes, even the time that has past in the process of writing this, have indelibly (albeit not immediately noticably) shaped that concept which I call "I." In short, I realized that "I" am a culmination of all and eternity.
You may just learn that your "I" does not exist in the same way you think it does.
I also realized how amazing, how completely "unrealistic," how utterly fatastic it is that "I" am even here, that any of us are here. Who'da thunk there'd be sentient bipeds roaming the universe and trying to comprehend its vastness and infinite complexity?
Of course, that's just "me." Your milage may vary.
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