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 Model for 2012 
#4022123 - 04/06/05 05:32 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Allow me to propose a possible visual representation for 2012.
A River runs. Suddenly there is a significant gathering of all the river's energy at one point. This point is the waterfall. The water all comes converging down into a point 100 feet below. From there, the river continues to run, as it always has.
So it is powerful transition in the river's path, but the river does not end there. It continues to flow.
This is not entirely well thought out. Just a spur of the moment mental pondering.
What do you think?
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River's aren't permanent.
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no.. but they are always flowing somewhere
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Re: Model for 2012 [Re: Shroomism]
#4022289 - 04/06/05 06:26 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Unless they dry up, or freeze over.
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"We may not be capable of eradicating the corruption of reason, but we must nevertheless counter it at every instance and with every means." Dan Agin
"Politics is the best religion and politicians are the worst followers."
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Well the problem with that metaphor is the river that runs off away from the base of a waterfall is no different than the river that runs to a waterfall higher up. Supposedly everything's gonna be different for humanity after 2012. That's if it's not all hooey anyway.
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 Re: Model for 2012 [Re: Shroomism]
#4022484 - 04/06/05 07:09 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Rivers....
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Shroomism said:
no.. but they are always flowing somewhere
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They flow to thru the path of least resistance.... Water anyways.... 
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Quote:
Psychoactive1984 said:
Unless they dry up, or freeze over.
in which case the water is just converted into another state of matter, but is still water
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2012, we move up to a lighter density.
so instead of everything being solid, its more like liquid.
imagine a tank of water, filled with different color dyes. The dyes still maintain their integrity, but they interact and mix and swirl. Everyone gets their own color.
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Re: Model for 2012 [Re: DoctorJ]
#4022714 - 04/06/05 08:05 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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2012 is only the year after 2011. Pop culture myth deserves little consideration.
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Re: Model for 2012 [Re: Shroomism]
#4022728 - 04/06/05 08:08 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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True, but it needn't flow at all.
For all we know it'll change humanity completely and utterly by wiping out everything that exists on Earth... pretty general, I wouldn't make party arrangements yet.
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In 2012 all the computer hippies gather around their PCs, there are 3,782 people viewing Shroomery S&P. Nothing happens, and they all decide to play Counterstrike.
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Quote:
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2012 is only the year after 2011. Pop culture myth deserves little consideration.
Although the Mayans and TM are not quite pop-culture in my book. Most of the folks exploiting this information these days are. 
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Re: Model for 2012 [Re: Icelander]
#4025605 - 04/07/05 11:58 AM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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to answer your question peyotezen, i don't think your analogy works too well because there is supposedly a global change supposed to take place in 2012, whereas the rive, once it has passed the waterfall, hasn't changed at all.
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What about the change in elevation?
Or maybe a change in average depth?
Or perhaps the "change" is simply the transitional stage during which the water is falling through the air.
While it will end up back in a similar state (that of a river flowing along the ground) after the fact, we shouldn't be so quick to discount the very real difference that would be taking place during the course of the water's leap from the cliff.
P.S. My post has nothing to do with 2012, nor am I expressing any opinion of what will or won't happen in 2012... I'm just trying to point out that this analogy can be interpretted in a way that does "work" for the point being conveyed.
I am simply illustrating the fact that the analogy can't be weak when we have no "template" to compare it to. Since nothing has happened in 2012 YET, there are infinite interpretations of the analogy to be had.
That doesn't make anyone right or wrong... on the contrary, it simply points out the fact that no one is right OR wrong, because an accurate interpretation of such an analogy can only be performed after the fact.
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hmm, true.
so with the waterfall, the water would be taking a huge step forward in its road toward the sea huh?
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*shrug* I suppose you could say that, yes.
My point was simply that we can't conclusively dismiss something of an inconclusive nature.
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Mckenna paraphrasing one of those old greek dudes in one of those lectures you can download online at the psychedelic library said that...
We never step into the same river once.
Not sure what it means (I am but not really ) but its cool.
Excuse the off-topic comment. Thanks.
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Re: Model for 2012 [Re: hobgoblin]
#4026867 - 04/07/05 05:04 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Next your going to use that song from Pocohontos...
(I have a little sister, so I'm forced to listen to all the"clever" songs inspired by Disney.)
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Quote:
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to answer your question peyotezen, i don't think your analogy works too well because there is supposedly a global change supposed to take place in 2012, whereas the rive, once it has passed the waterfall, hasn't changed at all.
Thats what i'm trying to say 
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