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Offlinebc30629
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Antsy as a.... newb
    #4018964 - 04/05/05 10:14 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Hey all... i have been around this site for a little while and have done my proper reading. I just started my grow a little over a week ago and wanted to ask this fine community how they liked my setup so far.

First we start with 6 jars of pf tek. knocked up with b+. The jars were boiled. Each one was made with a slight variation of water and labeled so i could see the best result for later grows. I currently have them in a small rubbermaid container with a heat pad on low underneath it. They are covered with a blanket to keep out light. I dont have a thermometer yet but the jars are just barely warm to the touch. It has been 9 days and im still not seeing growth. There are a few spots that kinda look like they might be forming but nothing deffinate. Can people please analyse and tell me if im doing anything wrong. Please ask many questions.


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Re: Antsy as a.... newb [Re: bc30629]
    #4018984 - 04/05/05 10:16 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

you should get a thermometer and find out how warm they are


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Re: Antsy as a.... newb [Re: bc30629]
    #4019004 - 04/05/05 10:18 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

You need a thermometer, especially when using a heating pad. The temps can fluctuate quickly.


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Re: Antsy as a.... newb [Re: dog]
    #4019008 - 04/05/05 10:20 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

that is my first concern with these guys. I will go to the hardware store tomorrow and get one. any other recommendations?

By the way i used a five hole inoculation method a day after the jars were "cooked"


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Re: Antsy as a.... newb [Re: dog]
    #4019028 - 04/05/05 10:24 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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6 jars of pf tek. knocked up with b+. The jars were boiled.




Did you knock them up and then boil them? :rolleyes:

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Re: Antsy as a.... newb [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #4019036 - 04/05/05 10:27 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

hahaha no... sorry... A.D.D thoughts just fly in at random times. No they were boiled. let stand for a day and then knocked up. Its been almost ten days now.


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Re: Antsy as a.... newb [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #4019042 - 04/05/05 10:28 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Each time u knock them up you get a 100% chance of contam, no matter what....This is why i hate the pf tek, if you knock it up in four spots then you just got a 400% of contam...Not saying it will, just saying that it Ups the chance...

Basically means that you've got to be way more sterile, lol, well, good luck

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Re: Antsy as a.... newb [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #4019054 - 04/05/05 10:30 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Hmm...I use LC's now, i hated waiting for them to germ. :smirk:

I'd wait about 3-5 more days and then toss em...I've had jars sit around for 20 days, hoping, i finally said fuck it, opened em, tossed them and almost gagged at the smell...


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Re: Antsy as a.... newb [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #4019065 - 04/05/05 10:33 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

well the day i knocked them up i read about karo tek... i think thats is where i am heading now


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Re: Antsy as a.... newb [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #4019074 - 04/05/05 10:35 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Yea, I use dextrose, but i hear u that theres vanilla malt u can use :thumbup:


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Re: Antsy as a.... newb [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #4019086 - 04/05/05 10:37 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

is it better to let the jars sit without a heater. My house is a constant low 70. I dont want to overheat them.


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Re: Antsy as a.... newb [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #4019126 - 04/05/05 10:47 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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IGnosticAbhorI said:
Each time u knock them up you get a 100% chance of contam, no matter what....This is why i hate the pf tek, if you knock it up in four spots then you just got a 400% of contam...Not saying it will, just saying that it Ups the chance...

Basically means that you've got to be way more sterile, lol, well, good luck

-Gnostic




Going by this statistic, I have 16 jars that should be contaminated four times over lol.. The only source of contams from inoculation would come from the syringe(I am assuming the dry vermiculite layer was used and it would be highly unlikely that a contam would enter through a hole in the lid and manage to penetrate the layer). If your syringe was prepared properly and you sterilized the tip then you should be fine.


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Re: Antsy as a.... newb [Re: bc30629]
    #4019162 - 04/05/05 10:56 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

yeah ditch the heating pad trust me I used one and it dryed out the bottom of my jars.


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Re: Antsy as a.... newb [Re: PowerTrip]
    #4019165 - 04/05/05 10:56 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I am worried about the heat. I was pretty causious about being sterile. I just started a karo tek so i can have some liquid ready in case the jars dont budge.


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Re: Antsy as a.... newb [Re: PowerTrip]
    #4019171 - 04/05/05 10:57 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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If your syringe was prepared properly and you sterilized the tip then you should be fine.



And thats what counts really...

I'm just implying probability and showing that one spot of inoculation (for grains tho) is less likely to get contamed....and thats not even taking into account that you do everything sterile...

I.e, keep ur shit clean :wink:

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Re: Antsy as a.... newb [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #4019183 - 04/05/05 11:01 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I've never read into LC, does it only need 1 injection spot?


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Re: Antsy as a.... newb [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #4019223 - 04/05/05 11:12 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Yuph just one... :thumbup:

Need one spot for gas exchange and one for taking solution out..

One hole will have polyfil/tyvek over it, and one cure with silicone
Viola...;)

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Re: Antsy as a.... newb [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #4019269 - 04/05/05 11:23 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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IGnosticAbhorI said:
Yea, I use dextrose, but i hear u that theres vanilla malt u can use :thumbup:



you say that like you are a dextrose veteran :wink:


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Re: Antsy as a.... newb [Re: tahoe]
    #4019275 - 04/05/05 11:25 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

@ gnostic: I was talking about when you shoot up your jars


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