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 San Pedro from seeds - growlog - pic update! 
#4017836 - 04/05/05 02:40 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I saw my first San Pedro seeds 71 days ago. I'm a 100% noob on growing anything from anything.
Here is my grow log. I've been on vacation for 10days so I don't exactly know when most of the seedlings turned brown, but it happened a few days ago.
Here is how most of them look at the moment:
This was 20 days ago:
The soil was a bit dry when I came back. The seedlings are not placed in direct sunlight; there is a thin white paper between the sun and the seedlings.
What can be the cause of the brown seedlings? Will they survive? What do I have to do to help them survive and become green again? I read as much as I could before posting this question, but I couldn't find any good information. Thanks for your help!
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Re: What is wrong with my San Pedro seedlings? [Re: Annom]
#4018331 - 04/05/05 05:20 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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one problem is that you have been keeping the soil oversaturated.
no algae should be growing in there.
another problem, the one that possibly caused the brown, may be that light. how close are you keeping that light to the seedlings?
a flourescent light is much better for seedlings. flouros don't burn tender seedlings like other bulbs do.
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Edited by eric_the_red (04/05/05 09:33 PM)
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Re: What is wrong with my San Pedro seedlings? [Re: Annom]
#4018383 - 04/05/05 05:33 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'm no expert, but your soil is covered with green algae, I think that means you've got too much humidity. Do you open the tray every day or have holes in the top so they can breathe? I've read that they hate stagnant air.
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Re: What is wrong with my San Pedro seedlings? [Re: rewind]
#4018399 - 04/05/05 05:38 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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green algae
I had the same problem with mine and it was cause the soil was way to wet and there was too much humidity..so what i did was cut out the small algae patch from the soil a few months ago and cut back on the spraying it has never came back..
As for the brown little seedlings i have a few of those also im not sure what causes that to happen..
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Re: What is wrong with my San Pedro seedlings? [Re: Dety]
#4018427 - 04/05/05 05:50 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Airation
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Re: What is wrong with my San Pedro seedlings? [Re: faslimy]
#4018920 - 04/05/05 08:00 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Try to give those seedlings more light. They look too stretched to me.
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Re: What is wrong with my San Pedro seedlings? [Re: eric_the_red]
#4020193 - 04/06/05 02:02 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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eric_the_red said:
one problem is that you have been keeping the soil oversaturated.
no algae should be growing in there.
another problem, the one that possibly caused the brown, may be that light. how close are you keeping that light to the seedlings?
a fluorescent light is much better for seedlings. flouros don't burn tender seedlings like other bulbs do.
Should I try to remove the algae? Are they dangerous for the seedlings? or is it just a sign of over-saturation? Is there a easy way to know how much water I should give them?
That light bulb was just for the heat, it was close to freezing sometimes and that's why I put a 15W light bulb in. I used a fluorescent lamp for the light, now I use the sun(not direct sun light). The temperatures are better now so I removed the 'heat' bulb.
I think I will move the seedlings to a place where the sun doesn't shine and start using a fluorescent lamp again.
Thanks!
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Re: What is wrong with my San Pedro seedlings? [Re: rewind]
#4020202 - 04/06/05 02:06 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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rewind said:
I'm no expert, but your soil is covered with green algae, I think that means you've got too much humidity. Do you open the tray every day or have holes in the top so they can breathe? I've read that they hate stagnant air.
It has holes on top and I open the tray almost every day.
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As for the brown little seedlings i have a few of those also im not sure what causes that to happen..
Do you put your seedlings in direct sunlight?
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No, they get enough fresh air.
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Try to give those seedlings more light. They look too stretched to me.
Can I put them in direct sunlight? I thought the brown color was some sort of sunburn.
Edited by Annom (04/06/05 02:07 AM)
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Re: What is wrong with my San Pedro seedlings? [Re: Annom]
#4021540 - 04/06/05 12:14 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Do not give them more light. Brown means too much light so give them less. Also, let them dry out between waterings before they rot.
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 Re: What is wrong with my San Pedro seedlings? [Re: Stonehenge]
#4021622 - 04/06/05 12:47 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ok. Thank you very much!
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Re: What is wrong with my San Pedro seedlings? [Re: Annom]
#4024012 - 04/06/05 10:41 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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No, red to black means too much light.
Brown spots indicate other problems. Too much light would cause consistent browning, if anything.
The seedlings are too tall and too light green. More light would go a long way towards dealing with mold, fungus, and other contaminants.
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Re: What is wrong with my San Pedro seedlings? [Re: nookjohn]
#4024428 - 04/07/05 12:30 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Can I put them in direct sunlight?
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Re: What is wrong with my San Pedro seedlings? [Re: Annom]
#4024433 - 04/07/05 12:32 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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only if you want roasted cactus seedlings.
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Re: What is wrong with my San Pedro seedlings? [Re: eric_the_red]
#4024971 - 04/07/05 04:21 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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No, seedlings cannot handle direct sunlight. They usually need about a year to handle that much light. I gotta agree with Stoney it looks like they're gettin too much light, red to reddish-brown indicates that. A diluted H2O2 solution will kill the algae on the surface and still be ok for the seedlings. Don't keep things too soaked, make sure those roots can breath a little bit. 
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Re: What is wrong with my San Pedro seedlings? [Re: Maverik]
#4025612 - 04/07/05 10:00 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Thanks for the advice eric and Maverik! I use a fluorescent lamp now, out of the sun and won't water them too much.
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Re: What is wrong with my San Pedro seedlings? [Re: Annom]
#4027909 - 04/07/05 06:59 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: What is wrong with my San Pedro seedlings? [Re: Maverik]
#4030255 - 04/08/05 10:11 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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If seedlings can't handle sunlight, how do they grow in nature? Do they only start growing in the shade?
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Re: What is wrong with my San Pedro seedlings? [Re: cybrbeast]
#4030786 - 04/08/05 12:30 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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That's what I was thinking. I guess they have to be very lucky and most of them die.
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Re: What is wrong with my San Pedro seedlings? [Re: Annom]
#4031208 - 04/08/05 02:53 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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yeah, think about it they grow in small micro-climates around the base of larger plants>
therefore, they get shade, cooler temps, and higher humidity.
just what you want to recreate at your home> except inside you are mother nature, and you can make an even more perfect condition.
but the best way to learn is to mess up.
it will ensure you never do it wrong again,, and you can study what you did wrong, and most important you can see signs of problems more easily next time.
people who are lucky and only have healthy plants, have a harder time identifying problems, and are less adept at dealing with them. as opposed to people who have had and dealt with problems.
this will help you in the long run.^ learning experience.
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Re: What is wrong with my San Pedro seedlings? [Re: Annom]
#4032252 - 04/08/05 07:26 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Annom said:
I guess they have to be very lucky and most of them die.
bingo.
cacti can drop hundreds of seeds every time they flower, but i have yet to see one cactus with hundreds of seedlings growing around it in the wild.
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