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xpaciscool
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Using Barley Malt as Liquid Culture
#4014823 - 04/04/05 09:42 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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I looked all over trying to find malt extract, and i couldn't find anything. Instead i picked up something called barley malt The manufacturer says " USA Organically grown barley, sprouted, kiln roasted, and cooked - an ancient process using only the grain's own enzymes created in the sprouting process, and the knowledge and care of artisan maltsters. A clean tasting, 'slow burning' source of complex carbohydrate. A more intelligent sweetener. "
I am wondering, will this work as a liquid culture, if not, is there a way to extract only the malt out of it??? Thanks in advance for replies
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Re: Using Barley Malt as Liquid Culture [Re: xpaciscool]
#4014852 - 04/04/05 09:47 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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it will most likely work but it's basicly caramelized, it could cause mutant problems. you'll als need other additives like dextrose
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Re: Using Barley Malt as Liquid Culture [Re: Prisoner#1]
#4014967 - 04/04/05 10:04 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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If i used half barely malt, half honey would that work ok?? also is it possible to extract the malt from it? so i wouldn't have to use a carmelized malt mix?
Edited by xpaciscool (04/04/05 10:05 PM)
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Re: Using Barley Malt as Liquid Culture [Re: xpaciscool]
#4015032 - 04/04/05 10:20 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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if you have honey dude just use that. 1tsp per 100ml or so and it will do just fine. Sure Malt/Dex Works alot better for me but honey never fails. Just Mix Microwave for 6 min strain and microwave for 6 more min. Or if you have a PC use that for more sterile ness. Strain with a coffee filter btw
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Re: Using Barley Malt as Liquid Culture [Re: xburn]
#4015051 - 04/04/05 10:24 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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no you couldn't extract it. Malt is just sugar made from barley(basically) So once the sugars carmelized its carmelized unless your god.... Are you?
So just honey water it man and you'll be fine.... or go online to a home brew beer place and buy Light malt extract and Dextrose. Mix 50/50 and do 1tbls per quart or 4/3 tbs per cup
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Re: Using Barley Malt as Liquid Culture [Re: xpaciscool]
#4015053 - 04/04/05 10:25 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
xpaciscool said: I looked all over trying to find malt extract, and i couldn't find anything. Instead i picked up something called barley malt The manufacturer says " USA Organically grown barley, sprouted, kiln roasted, and cooked - an ancient process using only the grain's own enzymes created in the sprouting process, and the knowledge and care of artisan maltsters. A clean tasting, 'slow burning' source of complex carbohydrate. A more intelligent sweetener. "
I am wondering, will this work as a liquid culture, if not, is there a way to extract only the malt out of it??? Thanks in advance for replies
used it pleany of times, it will work. It works for agar also, dont cook too long and remember that less is better. 1/2 tsp per quart of water
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Re: Using Barley Malt as Liquid Culture [Re: xpaciscool]
#4015066 - 04/04/05 10:28 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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Light Kayro corn syrup or Honey would be a better option
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Re: Using Barley Malt as Liquid Culture [Re: tahoe]
#4015071 - 04/04/05 10:29 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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tahoe!!!! Thank YOU SOO MUCH. that makes me feel much better knowing that somebody has used this. Can you either post or email me(retro1337@gmail.com) the procedure you use to make your liquid cultures with barley malt?? That would be great Also, have you tried other combinations? which worked best
Thanks alot
Edited by xpaciscool (04/04/05 10:31 PM)
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Re: Using Barley Malt as Liquid Culture [Re: xpaciscool]
#4015083 - 04/04/05 10:31 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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make sure you spit into the culture before you inject. Adds nutrients.
Oh and you can change a malt using chemistry (refineing). But it would be retarded for this purpose.
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Re: Using Barley Malt as Liquid Culture [Re: xpaciscool]
#4015098 - 04/04/05 10:35 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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just sub honey with malt. 1/2 tsp to quart of water. It will have some chunks on the bottom but just examine it after pcing and make sure nothing changes besides mycel growth
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Re: Using Barley Malt as Liquid Culture [Re: tahoe]
#4016448 - 04/05/05 09:22 AM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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thanks goofy... i'll make sure to spit into it
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Re: Using Barley Malt as Liquid Culture [Re: xpaciscool]
#4016645 - 04/05/05 10:20 AM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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sorry was having a moment
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Re: Using Barley Malt as Liquid Culture [Re: Prisoner#1]
#4017101 - 04/05/05 12:24 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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you can get barley malt extract at brew shops or online at any brewing supply place, btw
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Re: Using Barley Malt as Liquid Culture [Re: xburn]
#4017105 - 04/05/05 12:24 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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thanks for honey tips, gunna try it out! i love honey! and i bet the mushrooms do too... something... mystical.. about the relationship there.. thanks!
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Re: Using Barley Malt as Liquid Culture [Re: mattymonkey]
#4017108 - 04/05/05 12:25 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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I paid about $4 for 3lbs of the dry malt extract, my local grocery store (mom&pop place) carries light malt extract syrup
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Re: Using Barley Malt as Liquid Culture [Re: Prisoner#1]
#4017169 - 04/05/05 12:37 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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damn , ur lucky prisioner, i paid 5 bux for this shit!!! and i didn't even use a teaspoon. LOL... Ne ways... today i did a 50/50 Honey/Barley malt mix. I put them into a bowl, and blended them. Then covered it and put it into the microwave for ten minutes. I then sterlized 4 marbles, and put them into the jars. Filled 4 jars up with the mixture and boiled them in a covered pot for 30 minutes. They looked fine when i took them out, they had a slight yellowish color from the barley malt and honey. Did i do anything wrong here, besides not PC'ing them?? Thanks
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Re: Using Barley Malt as Liquid Culture [Re: xpaciscool]
#4017596 - 04/05/05 02:01 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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the microwave method may work, I still believe you'll be seeing problems with the barly malt, hopefully not, next time you use the microwave with a liquid, add the marbles in with everything else, one is a matter of safety
google 'boiling stones' to learn more
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