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24 Pints of Karo Tek Growing, need advice
    #4017023 -

OK, i have 24 pints (2 cases of jars) all knocked up, and growing successfully. some have huge masses in them, some have decent clouds, 1 has like 5 little puff balls in it. my question is, some of the big clouds need to slow down, should i put these in the fridge to stall? and as the other jars reach the same level of growth do the same? how long will they stay good in the fridge? should i just fill a shit load of syringes and store them? i just need to know what to do w/ this many jars of L.C. I will be using a lot of the jars this week to knock up quite a bit of WBS. like 30 lbs. all in pint jars. so i think that will take up a lot of the liquid myc. Anyone know if Taz does good w/ WBS? should i case or bulk? I'm thinking bulk, but i only have access to store bought products and dried from the pasture buffalo shit. not sure what to use. ANY ADVICE IS GREATLY APPRECIATED! I'll post a pic of my jars and set-up for jars ASAP!

Take it easy!
SHROOMpimp

P.S. AGAR- what was that magnetic stirring set-up you got? i saw it in a post the other day, now I'm wanting one bad. not sure where to look, maybe E-bay? but i don't really know what to search for. thanx


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Re: 24 Pints of Karo Tek Growing, need advice [Re: SHROOMpimp]
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yes, refridgeration will slow/stall the growth but you better find some way of using it fairly soon, it's life expectancy isnt all that long


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Re: 24 Pints of Karo Tek Growing, need advice [Re: Prisoner#1]
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a bunch of the teks said that you could store LC for 6 months to 1 year in the fridge>>????

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Re: 24 Pints of Karo Tek Growing, need advice [Re: Prisoner#1]
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24 pints eh? you planning on growing quite alot there. lets see, 1 pint is about 2 syringes worth ( at least ), and 1 syringe can do about 10 cakes under the assumption that flooding your cakes with too much solution is harmful (eg will drown them)... so thats.....

480 cakes. have fun. i hope you have a team of workers there to help you out.

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Re: 24 Pints of Karo Tek Growing, need advice [Re: Abermelin]
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Dude you dont need a team for large amounts of cultures... AFOAF has well over 240 jars colonizing and about 60 completey colonized, and about 30-40 tupperware containers colonizing...

Just dont do what he did, and do 60 at one shot. Spread em out over time, like a dozen jars every 3 days, that way you wont get slammed with a ton of work.

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Re: 24 Pints of Karo Tek Growing, need advice [Re: XTCollection]
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sounds like you guys got a large scale buisness going. on the scale of 250-500 cakes you can do kilo's of dried product. thats some dangerous shit to be playing with.

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Re: 24 Pints of Karo Tek Growing, need advice [Re: Abermelin]
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I'm not sure if 24 is enough? Just kiddin! Refridgerating is fine. I had a LC on my shelf for damn near a year and I couldn't believe it was still viable. I've heard they can last even longer. Proper air exchange and aerating is the key to healthy LC's.

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Re: 24 Pints of Karo Tek Growing, need advice [Re: Abermelin]
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Well that is how you percieve it... lol, kilos? Too bad he wouldnt know cuz he and his wife eat the cakes.

EDIT - Whole grain cakes only, not pf cakes.

Edited by XTCollection (04/05/05 01:09 PM)

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Re: 24 Pints of Karo Tek Growing, need advice [Re: Abermelin]
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Quote:
lets see, 1 pint is about 2 syringes worth ( at least ),


Wanna guess again?

Your way off!~


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Laterz, Road

Who the hell you callin crazy?
You wouldn't know what crazy was if Charles Manson was eating froot loops on your front porch!

Brainiac said:
PM the names with on there names, that means they have mushrooms for sale.


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Re: 24 Pints of Karo Tek Growing, need advice [Re: Roadkill]
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Good grief!!!!! Roadkill. Sometimes I wonder were and the heck these people come up with this shit!

Edited by hotnutz (04/05/05 01:51 PM)

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Re: 24 Pints of Karo Tek Growing, need advice [Re: Hotnuts]
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hotnutz said:
Good grief!!!!! Sometimes I wonder were and the heck these people come up with this shit!


me too.

still waiting on a guess or the answer!~


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Laterz, Road

Who the hell you callin crazy?
You wouldn't know what crazy was if Charles Manson was eating froot loops on your front porch!

Brainiac said:
PM the names with on there names, that means they have mushrooms for sale.


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Re: 24 Pints of Karo Tek Growing, need advice [Re: Abermelin]
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Dude, pay attention. He's doing WBS. Hard to get 480 cakes from WBS.
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Re: 24 Pints of Karo Tek Growing, need advice [Re: Roadkill]
    #4017636 -

Pint LC jars can make about 30 LC syringes. They can nicely hold 300ml and syringes are 10ml.


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Re: 24 Pints of Karo Tek Growing, need advice [Re: Roadkill]
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Tahoe? Just playing. Hey Road, what's up?
Peace,Love,Happiness and Harmony.
:heart: Hippie Chick  :mushroom2:


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Peace,Love and Happiness
:heart: HC :mushroom2:

Freedoms just another word for nothing left to lose..............

I LUV My Greenhouse
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/5545848#5545848

My First Pans
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Re: 24 Pints of Karo Tek Growing, need advice [Re: Ir0NLunG68420]
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Ir0NLunG68420 said:
Pint LC jars can make about 30 LC syringes. They can nicely hold 300ml and syringes are 10ml.


Much better!~

:smile:


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Laterz, Road

Who the hell you callin crazy?
You wouldn't know what crazy was if Charles Manson was eating froot loops on your front porch!

Brainiac said:
PM the names with on there names, that means they have mushrooms for sale.


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Re: 24 Pints of Karo Tek Growing, need advice [Re: HippieChick]
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Quote:
Hey Road, what's up?


relaxing. :smile:

how are you sis?


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Laterz, Road

Who the hell you callin crazy?
You wouldn't know what crazy was if Charles Manson was eating froot loops on your front porch!

Brainiac said:
PM the names with on there names, that means they have mushrooms for sale.


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Re: 24 Pints of Karo Tek Growing, need advice [Re: Roadkill]
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Ohh wow... Didnt do the math when making so many lc's, good to know tho.

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Re: 24 Pints of Karo Tek Growing, need advice [Re: Roadkill]
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I'm getting ready to do some LC's. Read a bunch of TEK's. My question is, do you use the same amount of LC to inoculate as you would multi-spore, ie. If you were doing cakes, would you use 1CC of LC like you would a syringe.
Thanks.
Peace,Love,Happiness and Harmony.
:heart: Hippie Chick  :mushroom2:


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Peace,Love and Happiness
:heart: HC :mushroom2:

Freedoms just another word for nothing left to lose..............

I LUV My Greenhouse
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My First Pans
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Re: 24 Pints of Karo Tek Growing, need advice [Re: HippieChick]
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HippieChick said:
I'm getting ready to do some LC's. Read a bunch of TEK's. My question is, do you use the same amount of LC to inoculate as you would multi-spore, ie. If you were doing cakes, would you use 1CC of LC like you would a syringe.
Thanks.
Peace,Love,Happiness and Harmony.
:heart: Hippie Chick  :mushroom2:


You got it  :thumbup:


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Re: 24 Pints of Karo Tek Growing, need advice [Re: Ir0NLunG68420]
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Thanks.
Peace,Love,Happiness and Harmony.
:heart: Hippie Chick  :mushroom2:


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Peace,Love and Happiness
:heart: HC :mushroom2:

Freedoms just another word for nothing left to lose..............

I LUV My Greenhouse
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My First Pans
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Re: 24 Pints of Karo Tek Growing, need advice [Re: HippieChick]
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Yes sis you would.

I really like the light Karo.



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Laterz, Road

Who the hell you callin crazy?
You wouldn't know what crazy was if Charles Manson was eating froot loops on your front porch!

Brainiac said:
PM the names with on there names, that means they have mushrooms for sale.


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Re: 24 Pints of Karo Tek Growing, need advice [Re: Roadkill]
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Is that one teaspoon per 100 ml of water. PC'ed at 15 psi for 15 minutes Road?
Peace,Love,Happiness and Harmony.
:heart: Hippie Chick  :mushroom2:


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Peace,Love and Happiness
:heart: HC :mushroom2:

Freedoms just another word for nothing left to lose..............

I LUV My Greenhouse
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/5545848#5545848

My First Pans
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Re: 24 Pints of Karo Tek Growing, need advice [Re: HippieChick]
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Yahh man... My LC's have been going for a month, and only one comes close to that.

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Re: 24 Pints of Karo Tek Growing, need advice [Re: SHROOMpimp]
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Ebay.... keep watching for  DEALS

Sometimes there are none, other times some, sometimes a lot. I got a kick ass hvy duty one for $36. You just have to wait, watch & snipe a deal on one.

LOL..... next time just do a GALLON WINE JUG or pickle jar instead of 24 pint jars.



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Re: 24 Pints of Karo Tek Growing, need advice [Re: HippieChick]
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depends on the size jar you are using.

I use Tall half pint jars for LC's.

4cc's of light Karo.
96cc's of water.
1 marble.

just double up the recipe for larger jars.

Sterilize for 30 minutes and let it cool.

I inject 1 to 2cc's of spores.


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Laterz, Road

Who the hell you callin crazy?
You wouldn't know what crazy was if Charles Manson was eating froot loops on your front porch!

Brainiac said:
PM the names with on there names, that means they have mushrooms for sale.


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Re: 24 Pints of Karo Tek Growing, need advice [Re: Roadkill]
    #4017815 -

Thanks Road.
Peace,Love,Happiness and Harmony.
:heart: Hippie Chick  :mushroom2:
Did your son have a Happy Birthday?


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Peace,Love and Happiness
:heart: HC :mushroom2:

Freedoms just another word for nothing left to lose..............

I LUV My Greenhouse
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/5545848#5545848

My First Pans
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Re: 24 Pints of Karo Tek Growing, need advice [Re: HippieChick]
    #4017830 -

yw sis

yes he had a wonderful b-day. :smile:
thanks for asking.

:grin:


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Laterz, Road

Who the hell you callin crazy?
You wouldn't know what crazy was if Charles Manson was eating froot loops on your front porch!

Brainiac said:
PM the names with on there names, that means they have mushrooms for sale.


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Re: 24 Pints of Karo Tek Growing, need advice [Re: Roadkill]
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WOW, ok, i wasn't trying to have a big ass discussion but thanx everyone for the advice, i'm just going to stick them in the fridge as they get to a good mass. if i put them in the fridge to stall, do i need to take them out a day or two before knock up? to let them warm up? or are they good right out of the fridge? my honey jars have a much darker color than the light Karo mix, the light karo is much easier to see contams/junk in your mix. i put 3 marbles in the jar, they mix the shit out of the myc. but what exactly do i need for the dextrose method? i've heard it's much better, but i don't know EXACTLY what to look for, or where. i don't have a brewer supply place here, so internet maybe? LOL, how was 1 pint of L.C. supposed to only make 2 syringes? LOL, i wish i could find 1/4 or 1/2 pint syringes... lol, anyways, thanx for the input

thanx for the PM Road
cool, thanx AGAR i'll keep my eye out

SHROOMpimp


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Re: 24 Pints of Karo Tek Growing, need advice [Re: SHROOMpimp]
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I wouldn't worry with the dextrose method. Karo is great and excedes honey big time IMHO. And yes, you can use the LC right out of the fridge.

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Re: 24 Pints of Karo Tek Growing, need advice [Re: SHROOMpimp]
    #4018156 -

Hey road, how much mass should fill the jar using those measurments?

-Gnostic


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Re: 24 Pints of Karo Tek Growing, need advice [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #4018176 -

thanx hotnuts!
gnostic, you should get a big cloud w/ the mix he said, i use basically the same, i've done more and less karo and they all seem to work, to a point, i'd under-do the karo mix rather than over-do it. in a pint jar i have a big cloud about the size of a raquette ball, or a little smaller than a baseball. i use 3 marbles in my jars, they seem to break up the myc a little easier than 1. but anywayz, LC's kick ass! that's pretty much all i got to say.... latah

SHROOMpimp


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Re: 24 Pints of Karo Tek Growing, need advice [Re: SHROOMpimp]
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Get'r done!!!!!!!

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Re: 24 Pints of Karo Tek Growing, need advice [Re: Hotnuts]
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yeah, 2 syringes, unless your some cheap ass who doesnt pack their syringes with mycelium and ends up doing something like 30 a jar. that is the whole point of doing a mycellial culture, to give the cakes a huge boost. That boost doesnt occur if your stingy on the mycellium concentration in the syringe.

But what do i know. your the big time growers that are gonna be thrown into pound me in the ass prision when the blackhats track your ip down. lol.

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Re: 24 Pints of Karo Tek Growing, need advice [Re: Abermelin]
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no you idiot....

Its the volume in the jar vs syringe you tart...

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Re: 24 Pints of Karo Tek Growing, need advice [Re: XTCollection]
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The volume in the jar has no relevance to how many syringes you do. The amount of mycellium in the jar is what matters. Thats why you are selective when pulling the mycellium into the syringe, as not to suck up too much empty solution.

Again with the namecalling. Seems as if though more middleschoolers are growing shrooms than i thought.

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Re: 24 Pints of Karo Tek Growing, need advice [Re: Abermelin]
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Abermelin said:
The volume in the jar has no relevance to how many syringes you do. The amount of mycellium in the jar is what matters. Thats why you are selective when pulling the mycellium into the syringe, as not to suck up too much empty solution.

Again with the namecalling. Seems as if though more middleschoolers are growing shrooms than i thought.


Hmmmmm. Very good additive to your previous post my man! I think everbody was thinking about ml's per syringe, per 1 pint. In that case make your posts a little clearer.

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Re: 24 Pints of Karo Tek Growing, need advice [Re: Abermelin]
    #4018275 -

Its not exactly a "boost"

You're just skipping the germ. phase, so it colonizes quicker :smirk:

Just some FYI

-Gnostic

Thankx ShroomP, wasn't sure how long i should let it go lol :doh:


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For the sake of those seeking knowledge.
I've provided some in my signature.
Double Tek Pictorial
Getting the most out of your casings!, A pinning strategy.
Soaking wbs - The Final Answer by Agar
50/50 Coco Coir versus 50/50 Peat Moss.

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Re: 24 Pints of Karo Tek Growing, need advice [Re: Abermelin]
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Abermelin said:
yeah, 2 syringes, unless your some cheap ass who doesnt pack their syringes with mycelium and ends up doing something like 30 a jar. that is the whole point of doing a mycellial culture, to give the cakes a huge boost. That boost doesnt occur if your stingy on the mycellium concentration in the syringe.

But what do i know. your the big time growers that are gonna be thrown into pound me in the ass prision when the blackhats track your ip down. lol.


1. cheap asses don't knock up 24 pints
2. if someone makes shit loads LC i don't think they're stingy
3. middleschoolers probably don't have the space to be 'big time growers'
4. Abermelon you better not try to track down my IP and put me in the 'pound you in your ass prison'.

man, people like that just make me want to read posts only, i think i'm about to lower the amount of posts i make.....

good luck to all
and stay away from the 'blackhats'

SHROOMpimp


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Re: 24 Pints of Karo Tek Growing, need advice [Re: SHROOMpimp]
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SHROOMpimp said:
LOL, i wish i could find 1/4 or 1/2 pint syringes...




I like to use 60ml syringes w/ my liquid cultures.  I've got a 2" 18 gauge needle that I couldn't find off the bat for the pic, but it seems to work the best.  You can find large syringes like this easily at any feed store worth a damn.  With that many LC jars, I'd definitely recommend a couple... GL bro :stoned:


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Re: 24 Pints of Karo Tek Growing, need advice [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
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IGnosticAbhorI said:
Hey road, how much mass should fill the jar using those measurments?

-Gnostic


Tall half pint jar :
8cc's of light Karo.
192cc's water.
1 marble.

Made this much.


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Laterz, Road

Who the hell you callin crazy?
You wouldn't know what crazy was if Charles Manson was eating froot loops on your front porch!

Brainiac said:
PM the names with on there names, that means they have mushrooms for sale.


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Re: 24 Pints of Karo Tek Growing, need advice [Re: Abermelin]
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Chill out on the name calling.

I don't want to put you in the naughty corner!~

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Everyone please behave like adults.

Thank you!~

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Laterz, Road

Who the hell you callin crazy?
You wouldn't know what crazy was if Charles Manson was eating froot loops on your front porch!

Brainiac said:
PM the names with on there names, that means they have mushrooms for sale.


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Re: 24 Pints of Karo Tek Growing, need advice [Re: Roadkill]
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damn, i need to do this with my next syringe. This forum is like a tek in itself


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Re: 24 Pints of Karo Tek Growing, need advice [Re: jamsandwich]
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Yeah but out of a 1000 ml solution, every bit of it should be useful. In other words, make sure your swirling your solution well in order to disperse the mycelium accordingly.

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Re: 24 Pints of Karo Tek Growing, need advice [Re: Abermelin]
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>But what do i know.

Exactly.


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Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
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Re: 24 Pints of Karo Tek Growing, need advice [Re: scatmanrav]
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O.K. I may be a complete dunderhead, but the argument in this thread confused me.. Is mycelium like spores, in that it can end up being micsroscopic chunks that will colonize jars or spawn? Or are you supposed to get a hefty amt. of visible mycelium in each syringe? Or,are you just supposed to shake it with a marble or two long enough so that it's evenly distributed in the syringes??


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Re: 24 Pints of Karo Tek Growing, need advice [Re: Kalix]
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you *could* use the marble, and that would provide a more even mixture of mycellium to solution, or if you want to give your jars hefty kick in the ass, let the strands grow out and suck it into the syringe selectivly. i prefer the latter cause i dont work on a large scale and timing is everything, but for large grows, the marble might be the best choice.

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Re: 24 Pints of Karo Tek Growing, need advice [Re: Abermelin]
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Marble's take up to much space IMO...

I just shake the shit out of it for a mintue...The myc. gets shaken up Very nicely...

But if I had to shake more than 5 jars for more than a mintue...i'd probably go insane :smirk:

But w/e, :thumbup:

-Gnostic


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For the sake of those seeking knowledge.
I've provided some in my signature.
Double Tek Pictorial
Getting the most out of your casings!, A pinning strategy.
Soaking wbs - The Final Answer by Agar
50/50 Coco Coir versus 50/50 Peat Moss.

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Re: 24 Pints of Karo Tek Growing, need advice [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
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road i have to ask you about how long did it take for your jar to colonize to that level?


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Re: 24 Pints of Karo Tek Growing, need advice [Re: xburn]
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What kind of marble are you using Road? hehe, I can get 5 marbles in a 12cc syringe. I only have a couple jars of LC going at a time, they go a long ways. And you can grain to grain from that.


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Re: 24 Pints of Karo Tek Growing, need advice [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
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IGnosticAbhorI said:
Marble's take up to much space IMO...




:rolleyes:


xburn said:
road i have to ask you about how long did it take for your jar to colonize to that level?


about 6 days bro

Underhillmaster said:
What kind of marble are you using Road? 


they are Florist marbles from a Florist shop.

don't ask!~

lolzz


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Laterz, Road

Who the hell you callin crazy?
You wouldn't know what crazy was if Charles Manson was eating froot loops on your front porch!

Brainiac said:
PM the names with on there names, that means they have mushrooms for sale.


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Re: 24 Pints of Karo Tek Growing, need advice [Re: Underhillmaster]
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Underhillmaster said:
What kind of marble are you using Road? hehe, I can get 5 marbles in a 12cc syringe. I only have a couple jars of LC going at a time, they go a long ways. And you can grain to grain from that.


sounds like rk has big marbles


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Re: 24 Pints of Karo Tek Growing, need advice [Re: Roadkill]
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Roadkill said:
Chill out on the name calling.

I don't want to put you in the naughty corner!~

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Everyone please behave like adults.

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Re: 24 Pints of Karo Tek Growing, need advice [Re: Roadkill]
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Roadkill, when you started your solution, what did you use, spores or mycelium? How much? How long do you shake the jar per day?

Agar, I also have light malt powder and dextrose. How much of each do you recommend for your dextrose/malt mix? You seem pretty keen on automatic stirring. Does this speed up the solution colonization even further? What do you start your liquid cultures with, mycelium or spores? If mycelium what is the source?

Edited by Blue Helix (05/06/05 12:27 AM)

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Re: 24 Pints of Karo Tek Growing, need advice [Re: Blue Helix]
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Blue Helix said:
Roadkill, when you started your solution, what did you use, spores or mycelium? How much? How long do you shake the jar per day?




Spores

1cc to 2cc

I just twirled them after inoculating...then a couple days later.

that was it.


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Re: 24 Pints of Karo Tek Growing, need advice [Re: SHROOMpimp]
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Sounds real tempting, Roadkill...

but then I looked at my half pint agar jars that have been incubated for about 3.5 days now each with only a single drop of spore solution out of a 1/2cc 29 guage insulin needle. The surfaces are about 30-40% colonized. Using a very small needle like that, a single half CC of spore solution can inoculate 20 to 40 jars of agar surface! And then each jar can be blended with 200 ml of sterile water to inoculate a lot of grain. One drip of spore solution to a 3/4th covered agar surface, enough to inoculate pounds of grain, in about a week. What's more is that on agar, I have the flexibility to see contamination easier and I can see which surfaces are showing stronger and faster mycelium growth.

I am not saying that one technique is necessarily better than the other since I've never tried the Karo technique, but it does show that there is more than one way to skin a cat.

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Re: 24 Pints of Karo Tek Growing, need advice [Re: Blue Helix]
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By the way, a 29-gauge needle is so thin that you barely can feel it going into the skin. It's about 290 um in diameter (less than the width of a human hair), even less in the middle where the liquid flows. I was amazed at how little spore solution is needed to inoculate agar and how tiny the spores really are!

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