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Alternative Fruiting Containers for Lion's Mane and Maitake
    #4016710 - 04/05/05 12:46 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

So I had this idea... Taking those plastic bins, the smaller ones, and fitting them with a filter, maybe one you use for the jars cut in half or something.. Then sterilizing subststrate in the PC in jars or something, and when its cooled, pouring the substrate and spawn into these bins. Then you let them incubate till they're ready and take the lid off, the mushrooms would fruit out the top. This would work I think for Maitake, and for Lion's Mane you could poke holes in the sides and cover with tape while it was incubating.

Any thoughts on if this would work or not? I guess my question is how "hot" would the bran be in the substrate and if it would cause it to contam or not. You could presterilize as much as you could with just a little bleach or something. Any thoughts/ideas?


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Re: Alternative Fruiting Containers for Lion's Mane and Maitake [Re: mattymonkey]
    #4032670 - 04/09/05 12:00 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

found out about the autoclavable #5 plastic bins.. stoked! this idea is shaping up more and more.. got one in the PC right now, test run... if it works ill drill the holes and silicone seal it up! what fun! i'll keep posting results here.. incase anyone is interested
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Re: Alternative Fruiting Containers for Lion's Mane and Maitake [Re: mattymonkey]
    #4032808 - 04/09/05 01:00 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

pc'd great! no blemishes or any sign of anything after being pc'd empty for 2 hours at 15-20psi... cost of bin $1.50.. now the filter! filters cost around a buck.. gunna try to find silicone at the hardware store.. for less then $3 a reusable container for fruiting any mushroom you can use a filter patch bag for, woo!


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Re: Alternative Fruiting Containers for Lion's Mane and Maitake [Re: mattymonkey]
    #4242226 - 06/01/05 12:30 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

how big are the number five bins?


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Re: Alternative Fruiting Containers for Lion's Mane and Maitake [Re: fungophiliac]
    #4243178 - 06/01/05 08:03 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

it was a flop... pc'd with sawdust in em and they warped all super funky...


trying quart jars now ala bottle method normally deployed in asia.. liquid inoc strait to supplemented sawdust.. is colonizing really well, we'll see how it works as a fruiting container..


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Re: Alternative Fruiting Containers for Lion's Mane and Maitake [Re: mattymonkey]
    #4243520 - 06/01/05 11:19 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

I think they use 2liter jars.
At least, there is a picture of Paul Stamets in tunnel with yambushitake in bottles. Comparison wise, they looked like 2liter bottles.

I've got some glass half gallon jars of a granulated corn cob and alfalfa cube that are inoculated with P. eryngii, P. djamor, and P. ostreatus. I'll be posting pictures when they fruit. I've read about P. eryngii grown in half gallon jars and they only got one good flush. When they are done I think I may try out H. erinaceus and G. frondosa.

As soon as I get some more propane, I'm gonna sterilize some quart jars as well. I am expecting a really meager single flush off the quart jars.



But you CAN indeed buy plastic 2L bottles from a company in California. They are designed for automation. They have machines that pack in the substrate, drill a hole and stack on a dolly to be loaded into an autoclave the size of a small kitchen.
http://www.gourmetmushroomsinc.com/equipment/index.html


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Re: Alternative Fruiting Containers for Lion's Mane and Maitake [Re: YidakiMan]
    #4243538 - 06/01/05 11:24 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

wow neat.. those are some big robots growing mushrooms!


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Re: Alternative Fruiting Containers for Lion's Mane and Maitake [Re: mattymonkey]
    #4261619 - 06/05/05 11:16 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

I emailed that company, bottles are 30 cents each plus shipping and handling. Well, were I live that around half the cost of glass jars. These do not break so thats another plus.


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Re: Alternative Fruiting Containers for Lion's Mane and Maitake [Re: YidakiMan]
    #4261637 - 06/05/05 11:22 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

you can pc glad wear containers i do it all the time...


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Re: Alternative Fruiting Containers for Lion's Mane and Maitake [Re: mattymonkey]
    #4262768 - 06/06/05 09:43 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

I love how the jars come out of the canning machine, and by the time they reach the end of the conveyor, they have a beautiful flush! lol.

I've had really good luck lately with wood lovers by sterilizing my wood chips/sawdust/coir in quart mason jars, then transferring to ziploc bags for colonization and fruiting. I inflate the ziploc bag in front of the flow hood after filling half way, then leave it for two weeks to colonize. It doesn't need any additional air if you inflate the top part at spawning.

After full colonization, I pop the seal on the ziploc and squeeze all the air out, then cut a 1" diameter hole in the side of the bag. They fruit very well from that and by leaving the bag closed up, the substrate doesn't dry out. Here's a reishi in the process of fruiting this way.
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Re: Alternative Fruiting Containers for Lion's Mane and Maitake [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #4263714 - 06/06/05 03:35 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

neat tek RR i'll give it a try...


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Re: Alternative Fruiting Containers for Lion's Mane and Maitake [Re: mattymonkey]
    #4265376 - 06/06/05 10:07 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Has anyone heard of pasteurizing bulk substrate by using a propane blower/heater (industrial job site size)and just aiming it at the pile while monitoring it with a remote thermometer? Just let it cook in a pile at F 175, then load it in to Rubbermaid.
Someone told me they did this with great success.


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Re: Alternative Fruiting Containers for Lion's Mane and Maitake [Re: Pie]
    #4267109 - 06/07/05 10:54 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Yes. I know a guy with a commercial grow op for portabello mushrooms. He puts his substrate into the painted wood bins he grows in, in an insulated metal storage building, then places two propane 'salamander' type construction heaters inside and raises the entire room to 140F for 24 to 36 hours. This pasteurizes not only the substrate, but the entire grow room and area. He has excellent success with this method.
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Re: Alternative Fruiting Containers for Lion's Mane and Maitake [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #4267419 - 06/07/05 01:15 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

we do that at our portabello farm, we use a kerosene heater that pumps 200,000 btu's and that is set on a thermostat.. we are still tweaking the system and it seams the biggest factor with speed/efficency is the beggining substrate.. i can answer an questions on setup probably but i think a new thread would be in order...


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