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tenn stud pre past substrate or 50/50 sub?
    #4013906 - 04/04/05 08:37 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

which would u recomend, the standard pre-pasturized substrate from tennesse stud or their 50/50 pre-pasturized sub? also, if using just the standard pre-past. sub.(or the 50/50 or either) could i soak some of that in water to get nutes in the water and use that water to dunk cakes, or would that not be good?
also i was wondering if u need to have a casing layer with horse poo? i thought i saw someone once say its not necesary. is a casing layer with horse poo that much better than without one?
btw, check out the sponsers forum to see tenn studs april buy 2 get 1 free deal.


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Re: tenn stud pre past substrate or 50/50 sub? [Re: Shnezbit]
    #4014128 - 04/04/05 09:24 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

i prefer the 50/50 but i may be losing out on nutes.

dont dunk the poo. least i wouldnt

you dont need a casing layer but it will greatly improve your yield IMO

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Re: tenn stud pre past substrate or 50/50 sub? [Re: goofy98]
    #4014190 - 04/04/05 09:38 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

cool, thx for ur opinion and advice, very kind of u. it wasnt that i was planing on dunking the poo i was just wondering if poo water could be used in dunking brf/pf cakes(i know ive seen such water suggested for pf cake preparation).
wondering if others agree 50/50 is better?


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Re: tenn stud pre past substrate or 50/50 sub? [Re: Shnezbit]
    #4014382 - 04/04/05 10:23 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Straight hpoo works fine mixed with verm..theres already straw in it..

At this point though, since they are running a special for shroomery members on buy 2 get 1 free (5 pound bags) of pre pasteurized 50/50, I'd go with that.

You shouldnt dunk or try to add nutes except prior to PCing and colonization. Dunking cakes or casings after colonized will lead to contamination.


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Re: tenn stud pre past substrate or 50/50 sub? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4014490 - 04/04/05 10:48 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

the only things is ild have to store all that 50/50 for several months. i wouldnt be able to store it in a fridge, is there another recomended way or is it not likeley to develop contams if stored for a long time?


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Re: tenn stud pre past substrate or 50/50 sub? [Re: Shnezbit]
    #4014530 - 04/04/05 10:55 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

All that? A 5 pound bag is a casing...buy up a couple and make a few casings.

Pre pasteurized wont last, you'd need to get the dry unpasteurized stuff, and do it yourself as you need it.

You could order some dry stuff..and 3 bags of 50/50 pre pasteurized (to get the 2 for 1 deal) to start you off...or you can just get the dry stuff and pasteurize it yourself...just need some bags, a big pot, and a themometer.


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Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: tenn stud pre past substrate or 50/50 sub? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4014577 - 04/04/05 11:03 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

thanks for your answer. sorry im a newb. i thought a casing is what u put on top of a colonized substrate which is not in the form of a cake.


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Re: tenn stud pre past substrate or 50/50 sub? [Re: Shnezbit]
    #4014672 - 04/04/05 11:18 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

A casing could be two things....the stuff you put on top of the substrate...or the substrate and casing layer..once you put it on top. Thats what I meant when I said a 5 lb bag will make 1 casing...its enough substrate to do a decent small bulk tub casing. You'd still need to apply the casing layer to the h poo (after spawning it, you know you need spawn like grain right?) though...

And you can crumble cakes, and case them.


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Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: tenn stud pre past substrate or 50/50 sub? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4014747 - 04/04/05 11:30 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

yea im planning on following road kills horse poo tek. basically gonna crumble a colonized pf cake into a bunch of horse poo and into a small bulk tub. once that gets totally colonized i was gonna put a verm/coir mix on top, or mb peat moss if i can get the ph testing thing happening for myself. but u aren't suggesting putting uncolonized tenn ted pasturized 50/50 on top of the colonized substrate right?


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Re: tenn stud pre past substrate or 50/50 sub? [Re: Shnezbit]
    #4014781 - 04/04/05 11:35 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

but u aren't suggesting putting uncolonized tenn ted pasturized 50/50 on top of the colonized substrate right?

Correct. I'm suggesting, doing what your planning...mix the 50/50 with a cake, once colonized, case with peat/verm (often called 50/50 or 50/50+, dont get confused!) or coir/verm...


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Re: tenn stud pre past substrate or 50/50 sub? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4021812 - 04/06/05 03:46 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

well you guys just confused the fuck out of me!

You should mix your 50/50 Tenn Stud mix (i just got 15lb) with your fully colonized substrate (I got WBS, you got BRF cakes :confused:; Tom, Dick, and Harry use Rye, or popcorn).
Mix evenly, then wait for this to fully colonize.
Next you should add your 50/50+ non-nutritous casing layer (peat, verm, and crushed oyster; ect.)
 
This is called 'Simple 50/50 Tenn Stud Tek'


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Re: tenn stud pre past substrate or 50/50 sub? [Re: Dexter_Morgan]
    #4021944 - 04/06/05 04:39 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

ShroomDr said:
well you guys just confused the fuck out of me!

You should mix your 50/50 Tenn Stud mix (i just got 15lb) with your fully colonized substrate (I got WBS, you got BRF cakes :confused:; Tom, Dick, and Harry use Rye, or popcorn).
Mix evenly, then wait for this to fully colonize.
Next you should add your 50/50+ non-nutritous casing layer (peat, verm, and crushed oyster; ect.)
 
This is called 'Simple 50/50 Tenn Stud Tek'




You dont seem confused, you just said it correctly...whats te problem?


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Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Slow down and comprehend what you read! [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4023353 - 04/06/05 10:05 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

The confusion was from me reading both of your posts, very quickly. This is the biggest problem on this board. My confusion was MY fault! I just thought, for anyone trying to follow what you both were saying, that i would completely spell it out.

I (and I'm sure a lot of people) will read every word, but not soak up the information, especially if the answers are in multiply posts.


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Re: Slow down and comprehend what you read! [Re: Dexter_Morgan]
    #4023724 - 04/06/05 11:42 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Ah I see.. :thumbup:

I can be very confusing when I talk..I ramble and dont seguey from one topic to another well..my brain scrambles to fast to the next thing..


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Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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