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denatured alcohol vs ethanol
    #4013199 - 04/04/05 05:47 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

For extraction purposes, denatured alcohol is predominately ethanol but with a cheaper price tag. Yet denatured alcohol is filled with other materials to make it undrinkable to steer it away from food grade ethanol, i.e. everclear.

Now even though most of the material is evaporated from the extraction process, I just wanted to make sure that denatured alcohol was safe to use. Since the warning label states, "do not consume can cause blindess." No offense, but I want to make 700% sure that I will not go blind from trace amounts of the other chemicals in the denatured alcohol besides ethanol.


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Re: denatured alcohol vs ethanol [Re: Fluxburn]
    #4013221 - 04/04/05 05:52 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Most denatured alcohol i've seen has been mixed with Methanol, hence the warnings on blindness.
If it evaporates cleanly, you're in the clear.
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Ethanol for industrial use is normally made unfit for human consumption ("denatured") by the inclusion of small amounts of substances that are either toxic (such as methanol) or unpleasant (such as denatonium benzoate), thus avoiding the applicable taxes or inventory controls.




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Re: denatured alcohol vs ethanol [Re: Fluxburn]
    #4013392 - 04/04/05 06:40 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I know that drying it should remove all hazardous content but I still use ethanol even at higher volumes.


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Re: denatured alcohol vs ethanol [Re: passitbobbie]
    #4013549 - 04/04/05 07:22 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

It's possible that it also contains bitrex or something that would not evapourate. I don't think it'd be toxic in the amounts encountered, but (as the name implies) it is bitter as hell, and you wouldn't want to be eating any.
I'm always of the opinion that only the best is good enough if I'm going to be eating the product. So either get absolute (food grade) alcohol, or use acetone or isopropanol or some other solvent that doesn't have crap added.


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Re: denatured alcohol vs ethanol [Re: Openminded]
    #4014871 - 04/04/05 11:49 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

for next time I might just use isopropanol alcohol, since it looks the cheapest or perhaps acetone is good enough.

I mean I guess an acid extraction could be done instead and then add some base to the substance for neutralization of the ph, but then don't you have to purify the substance?

I know that making crystals requires further purification, yet if you are just going to oral cosume the product, are vapatha washes even necessary?

I looked on some other pages about extracts of different plant materials trying to get a better picture of the whole process of different plant types and etc. This is turning into a lot of work trying to understand all these different processes and chemical names, uses, etc.

I learned a couple things along the way in my quest for chemicals, I found these people who make homemade fireworks from various chemicals. It seems sorta rad, but I don't know where I would light off homemade fireworks without causing the police too be called lol.


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