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smelly cakes?!
    #4013071 - 04/04/05 05:09 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

hey everyone! had a question about rice flour cakes that were inoculated 2 days ago. they were nuked for a few min. then boiled for 45min - hour. Are the cakes supposed to smell bad? or have no scent? help a noob out
thanks all


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Re: smelly cakes?! [Re: slayer69]
    #4013109 - 04/04/05 05:19 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

If it smells bad they are bad...chunk em


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Re: smelly cakes?! [Re: slayer69]
    #4013284 - 04/04/05 06:07 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Sadly.........Smell BAD...means BAD

Refer to dumpster tek.


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Re: smelly cakes?! [Re: PawPaw]
    #4013296 - 04/04/05 06:10 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Update with more info..

PF Cakes microwaved for 7 minutes and boiled for 45 minutes to an hour. About 36 hours after that they all smeel very badly of dirty diaper and lysol. The cabinet they are incubating in was lysoled...but I can't explain the diaper smell. This is not a typical mold smell...I have smelled various contams and they all have a smell very different than this (dirty sock smell). And these things really reek bad...I doubt that a contam could grow that much in hot substrate in just 36 hours. Does anybody with some experience in microwaving PF cakes want to comment on this? We're thinking that maybe the microwave cooked the flour and made it smell like this.

Ty


Edited by slayer69 (04/04/05 06:15 PM)


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Re: smelly cakes?! [Re: slayer69]
    #4013322 - 04/04/05 06:20 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Dirty sock smell usually is Bacculis....If you think it stinks now just wait a day or two :crazy:
CAUTION: dont be sniffing nasty contamination up your nose
If it stinks then get rid of it and dont open any jars inside your dwelling


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Re: smelly cakes?! [Re: PawPaw]
    #4013617 - 04/04/05 07:37 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Hey guys I'm growing with the creator of this thread (these are our jars).

Does this smell seem familiar to anyone?  I really would like to know how every one of our 9 jars is contaminated with the exact same thing, within 36 hours of sterelization.

Some stuff you might want to know:

-PF Cakes
-Microwaved and bioled
-Two different syringes from Spore Source
-Needles sterelized with alcohol and fire between jars
-Lysoled room and incubator
-Everything else used to prepare them was wiped with rubbing alcohol
-Every jar smells strongly of dirty diapers (poopy) and Lysol

Last grow we didn't do so well with other contams, so we were really careful this time to be clean.

:confused:

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Re: smelly cakes?! [Re: ]
    #4013683 - 04/04/05 07:52 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Get a pressure cooker...


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Re: smelly cakes?! [Re: PawPaw]
    #4013951 - 04/04/05 08:50 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

had the same problem twice !!! i threw jars , lids and rings away.started over with new, problem went away, seems once the dirty sock smell hits quickly and somehow contams everything, jars are cheep, get new ones.


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Re: smelly cakes?! [Re: Tankhead]
    #4013985 - 04/04/05 08:59 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Tankhead said:
had the same problem twice !!! i threw jars , lids and rings away.started over with new, problem went away, seems once the dirty sock smell hits quickly and somehow contams everything, jars are cheep, get new ones.




Not dirty sock smell...more like dirty diaper smell.


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Re: smelly cakes?! [Re: Tankhead]
    #4013994 - 04/04/05 09:00 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

to me, just the flour and vermiculite freshly mixed smells bad, but you should know the difference between that and a contam. if your jars smell like anything other than brf/verm substrate and/or fresh mushrooms (especially if there's no growth) then toss 'em.


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Re: smelly cakes?! [Re: bioTek]
    #4014041 - 04/04/05 09:13 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

i was hittin cakes with this girl and it stunk, stinky means bad


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Re: smelly cakes?! [Re: tahoe]
    #4014102 - 04/04/05 09:19 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

patty cake, patty cake.... WHO'S YOUR DADDY BITCH!? :whip:


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Re: smelly cakes?! [Re: tahoe]
    #4014136 - 04/04/05 09:25 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Smelly Cat, Smelly Cat,
What are they feeding you?
Smelly Cat, Smelly Cat
It's not your fault

They won't take you to the vet
You're obviously not their favorite pet
Smelly Cat, Smelly Cat,
It's not your fault

You may not be a bed of roses
You're not friend to those with noses
I'll miss you before we're done
Or the world will smell as one

Smelly Cat, Smelly Cat,
What are they feeding you?
Smelly Cat, Smelly Cat
It's not your fault


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Re: smelly cakes?! [Re: PawPaw]
    #4015708 - 04/05/05 04:20 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Slayer. Mine ( I am pretty sure all of them ) reak... I'm not sure if this is the brown rice and Verm smell or not... I Don't see much of any growth after 5 days. ( ANY AT ALL ) 2 more days and I will be sure I fried off the spores.

My humble suggestion is to just wait it out. If they are contamed so be it, but what if they aren't? Why risk it?
s3x3s.


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Re: smelly cakes?! [Re: s3x3s]
    #4015955 - 04/05/05 07:10 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

smelling shit means ure standing in it...
sounds to me like the jars never got properly sterlised as opposed to becoming contammed after inoculation.

u might want to try 'fractional sterlilisation';
u cook 3 times in 12hr intervals. the bacteria and spores etc get a chance to germinate during the 12hr period making them vulnerable to the next boiling period...

leave some jars for a day or 2 to see if they stay good be4 u inoculate.


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