Home | Community | Message Board


Kratom Eye
Please support our sponsors.

Mushrooms, Mycology and Psychedelics >> Mushroom Cultivation

Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Amazon Shop: ½ Pint Jars, Agar, Rye Grain, Vermiculite, Wild Bird Seed

Jump to first unread post. Pages: 1
InvisiblePawPaw
Picktish TexasStyle....

Registered: 12/20/04
Posts: 8,243
Loc: was born down in the sout...
Calling all WBS experts...
    #4009034 - 04/03/05 05:51 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

What are your best ways to drain your WBS before loading the jars?


--------------------
Come to Paw Paws place there will be no sleeping tonight

Eric just wants to catch reds ..
Don?t look back, don?t look back
He?s right on your trail
Don?t look back, don?t look back
He?s just a step away from hell
WDYWFM?


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflinekronnyQ
SuperstudExtraordinaire
 User Gallery

Registered: 07/23/04
Posts: 2,488
Loc: Anytown USA
Last seen: 1 year, 5 months
Re: Calling all WBS experts... [Re: PawPaw]
    #4009046 - 04/03/05 05:53 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I found an old window screen in my house it works great...thats what most people are using these days I guess.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineSoK
pimpin sincebeen pimpinsince beenpimpin since..

Registered: 12/26/04
Posts: 619
Loc: ohio river valley
Last seen: 6 years, 6 months
Re: Calling all WBS experts... [Re: kronnyQ]
    #4009061 - 04/03/05 05:58 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

reggy old strainer i just leave it drain for 45 min. tilting it every now n then to make sure the water on the bottom is being drained


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinescatmanrav
Brainy Smurf

Registered: 05/08/04
Posts: 11,483
Loc: Flag
Last seen: 4 years, 11 months
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Calling all WBS experts... [Re: PawPaw]
    #4009067 - 04/03/05 05:59 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

PawPaw said:
What are your best ways to drain your WBS before loading the jars?




Like whoa.




PVC, screen (slack left in the middle), attach with zip ties. Strains 25-30 quarts at a time..great for casing mix too.


--------------------
"life is like a drop of rain getting closer and closer to falling into a lake, and then when you hit the lake there is no more rain drop, only the lake."

Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineHotnuts
old hand
 User Gallery

Registered: 02/26/05
Posts: 3,436
Loc: Wild Blue Yawnder
Last seen: 20 days, 16 hours
Re: Calling all WBS experts... [Re: SoK]
    #4009072 - 04/03/05 06:00 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Any kind of collander. Let drain for at least an hour. Shake the collander like your trying to get the rest of the ketchup out of the bottle every now and then. You don't want any droplets of water draining from the collander, AT ALL!


Edited by hotnutz (04/03/05 06:02 PM)


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisiblePawPaw
Picktish TexasStyle....

Registered: 12/20/04
Posts: 8,243
Loc: was born down in the sout...
Re: Calling all WBS experts... [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4009091 - 04/03/05 06:08 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I have a big strainer and the last time i did some jars the birdseed sounded dry when i shook them after PCing... :confused:
Everything contammed badly..
Im gonna pc for a full 90 minutes this time and hopefully my water content will be correct
The first time i did WBS it worked great but the last few times its been kinda crappy :mad:


--------------------
Come to Paw Paws place there will be no sleeping tonight

Eric just wants to catch reds ..
Don?t look back, don?t look back
He?s right on your trail
Don?t look back, don?t look back
He?s just a step away from hell
WDYWFM?


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineMushroomFriend
Vargen ska fanleva!!
Male User Gallery

Registered: 10/12/04
Posts: 4,055
Loc: The Druid Peak Pack.
Last seen: 2 years, 10 days
Re: Calling all WBS experts... [Re: Hotnuts]
    #4009099 - 04/03/05 06:11 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

just a usual kitchen drain, drainage time depends on how long you soak /simmer, so dont just follow someones "drain-tek" without knowing the whole process.

When I soak for 16-18 hours and simmer for 10 minutes I drain 10-20 minutes in a kitchendrainer (is that an english word?) ?
When I dont have time on my side I help it a hand by shaking the water out a bit.

When finished simmering, and also before, I rinse the WBS too.
Recently I did a grow on rye, but the same strain didnt grow as good as wbs.

So might switch back o WBS. BUt it is hard to get ORGANIC WBS, here.

MF

Edit: and yes I PC 90 minutes too, with polyfill holes. Always good results. Last contam was when I PC-ed a jar only an hour.


--------------------


Edited by MushroomFriend (04/03/05 06:13 PM)


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinescatmanrav
Brainy Smurf

Registered: 05/08/04
Posts: 11,483
Loc: Flag
Last seen: 4 years, 11 months
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Calling all WBS experts... [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #4009110 - 04/03/05 06:16 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

It should sound dry...I soak for 24 hours..then simmer bird seed for about 10 minutes (at a pretty nice boil) before draining, and it steams like you see in the second pic...then after mixing it around with water steaming and straining off at the same time (dont rinse it after you simmer or you lose this steaming effect) and then mix in a bit of dry verm until the outside of the kernals look dry, but the kernals are all puffed up..and the verm shouldnt stay dry, it should all get to field capacity soaking up the extra water...the verm isnt needed of course, but helps fix water content problems if you have them..


--------------------
"life is like a drop of rain getting closer and closer to falling into a lake, and then when you hit the lake there is no more rain drop, only the lake."

Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineHotnuts
old hand
 User Gallery

Registered: 02/26/05
Posts: 3,436
Loc: Wild Blue Yawnder
Last seen: 20 days, 16 hours
Re: Calling all WBS experts... [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #4009155 - 04/03/05 06:36 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)



The key is draining. Even if it's 2 hours. This is a 1 gallon pickle jar (seed drained well) and pc'd for 2 hours @ 15psi. No probs!!!


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineKaptKid
Spaced Pirate
Male User Gallery

Registered: 12/11/03
Posts: 6,248
Loc: Bright Side of the Sun
Last seen: 8 months, 25 days
Re: Calling all WBS experts... [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4009553 - 04/03/05 08:31 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I've been using verm mixed in with wbs. Helped get rid of wet spot.



:sun:


--------------------
Child of the 60's, Tripping ever since.


:sun:


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisiblePawPaw
Picktish TexasStyle....

Registered: 12/20/04
Posts: 8,243
Loc: was born down in the sout...
Re: Calling all WBS experts... [Re: KaptKid]
    #4009632 - 04/03/05 08:50 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I think i have got the water right...I have some pcing right now
Man my relief valve popped off and scared me shitless...
It pops off at 22 psi :crazy: I reset it and am keeping it at 20 psi
so i really think its gonna be contam free until i inoculate :evil:


--------------------
Come to Paw Paws place there will be no sleeping tonight

Eric just wants to catch reds ..
Don?t look back, don?t look back
He?s right on your trail
Don?t look back, don?t look back
He?s just a step away from hell
WDYWFM?


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineS8N
PIMP
Male User Gallery

Registered: 01/26/05
Posts: 330
Loc: michigan
Last seen: 8 years, 9 months
Re: Calling all WBS experts... [Re: PawPaw]
    #4010833 - 04/04/05 12:59 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

you rock stars have not discovered the pillow case yet?!?!?!?!?!? save your self the pain in the ass mess!!!!!!! rock out a pillow case and you will give me a big hug in #cultivation on irc.shroomery.org


--------------------



Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisiblePrisoner#1
Even Dumber ThanAdvertized!
 User Gallery

Registered: 01/22/03
Posts: 193,665
Loc: Pvt. Pubfag NutSuck
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Calling all WBS experts... [Re: PawPaw]
    #4011751 - 04/04/05 07:33 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Paw, try sterilization between 15-18psi


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Invisibleagar
old hand
 User Gallery

Registered: 11/21/04
Posts: 9,056
Loc: Somewhere Else
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Calling all WBS experts... [Re: PawPaw]
    #4011883 - 04/04/05 09:30 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

PawPaw said:
I think i have got the water right...I have some pcing right now
Man my relief valve popped off and scared me shitless...
It pops off at 22 psi :crazy: I reset it and am keeping it at 20 psi
so i really think its gonna be contam free until i inoculate :evil:




Awww Paw Paw  :crazy:...... PC pop off is a real bad thing. Why.....?

POP/OFF like that brings all the water/moisture content in PC to an instant BOIL, boil creates INSTANT STEAM & PRESSURE.... which exhausts out of the PC (and PC content) like flames out of rocket engine on space shuttle.

In effect, POP/OFF vaporizes moisture content & blows in out of everything in PC (including wbs in jars in PC)under great pressure.

SADLY :crazy:......I would surmise, the moisture content of this batch of your WBS is now NOT OPTIMAL. Which leads to slow colonization, stalls & dead halts in colonization :mad2:.

I would not put it to use (that's just me). As results may be crap.

I would empty out & resoak WBS, then PC again @ 15 / 18 psi. Better chance of getting it right, rather than poor results.

Just my humble experiance.


--------------------


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisiblePrisoner#1
Even Dumber ThanAdvertized!
 User Gallery

Registered: 01/22/03
Posts: 193,665
Loc: Pvt. Pubfag NutSuck
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Calling all WBS experts... [Re: agar]
    #4011919 - 04/04/05 09:49 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

agar said:
In effect, POP/OFF vaporizes moisture content & blows in out of everything in PC (including wbs in jars in PC)under great pressure.





works the same with collard greens, I got a face full and spent a week cleaning the collards off the ceiling and walls.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Invisibleagar
old hand
 User Gallery

Registered: 11/21/04
Posts: 9,056
Loc: Somewhere Else
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Calling all WBS experts... [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #4011941 - 04/04/05 10:01 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Smile ........but not laughing. Not fun is it.

Once on a h/poo bag run, bag must have plugged pressure relief valve. POP/OFF blew, bags burst & tobbaco like poo juice blasted out.

Caused real pissed significant other & re/paint of kitchen. I wish I would have taken a picture, but didn't think of it, as G/F was mad & screaching at the time

Bought older hvy duty kitchen stove & wired it up - out in the shop.


--------------------


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisiblePawPaw
Picktish TexasStyle....

Registered: 12/20/04
Posts: 8,243
Loc: was born down in the sout...
Re: Calling all WBS experts... [Re: agar]
    #4011964 - 04/04/05 10:13 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

The relief popping off isnt a big deal with my PC...i just re-set it and its ok
I have had a PC full of jars that "Threw Up" before :tongue2:


--------------------
Come to Paw Paws place there will be no sleeping tonight

Eric just wants to catch reds ..
Don?t look back, don?t look back
He?s right on your trail
Don?t look back, don?t look back
He?s just a step away from hell
WDYWFM?


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Jump to top. Pages: 1

Amazon Shop: ½ Pint Jars, Agar, Rye Grain, Vermiculite, Wild Bird Seed

Mushrooms, Mycology and Psychedelics >> Mushroom Cultivation

Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* AA Toggle valve for 941 chobumms 1,481 15 11/04/08 12:57 PM
by Roadkill
* WBS expansion --why
( 1 2 all )
CLUTCH 2,569 28 06/16/05 02:22 AM
by CLUTCH
* Cooking infected WBS Hypercube 710 16 01/19/06 10:00 AM
by Oatman2000
* Sterilizers versus Pcs valves FGL 1,608 13 03/29/07 02:25 PM
by FGL
* Cutting corners while making WBS spawn.
( 1 2 3 4 5 all )
Phraggle 4,359 80 08/30/08 01:48 AM
by Shroomy1B
* wbs from memory seven 460 11 08/28/08 06:06 PM
by seven
* How do these WBS jars look? Nickio 885 4 08/31/07 12:58 AM
by Peterthinks
* Calling Mushroom Experts (but not Ralphster) to the lobby please..... ZionLion 820 5 05/21/07 04:48 PM
by Roadkill

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Roadkill, Magash, Shroomism, george castanza, RogerRabbit, Citric, total, FooMan, 13shrooms, stonesun, cronicr, PussyFart, Tmethyl, Pastywhyte, bodhisatta
1,306 topic views. 29 members, 92 guests and 22 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Toggle Favorite | Print Topic | Stats ]
Search this thread:
SoulSpeciosa Kratom
Please support our sponsors.

Copyright 1997-2017 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.033 seconds spending 0.005 seconds on 19 queries.