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Invisibleveggie

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Experts say pot less harmful than alcohol or cigarettes
    #4008408 - 04/03/05 02:13 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Experts say pot less harmful than alcohol or cigarettes
Prof who is a 40-year student of the effects of marijuana says public has been brainwashed

April 3, 2005
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A representative from the Alaska Civil Liberties Union joined a handful of experts Friday to tell a Senate committee that marijuana is less harmful than alcohol and even tobacco.

"There has not been a single case of lung cancer or emphysema triggered by smoking marijuana found in medical literature," said Dr. Lester Grinspoon, an associate professor emeritus at Harvard Medical School who has studied the effects of pot for almost 40 years.

In his assessment, he said the public has been "brainwashed" on the effects of marijuana. Senators reviewing a criminalization bill were hesitant to agree.

The bill would make possession of an ounce of marijuana a misdemeanor. Possession of 4 ounces would be a felony. Currently Alaska courts grant privacy protection to those possessing up to 4 ounces.

Last week a White House drug adviser and others told the committee that marijuana is dangerous and should be criminalized.

The Senate Health, Environment and Social Services Committee approved the bill Friday, but committee chairman Fred Dyson, R-Eagle River, said his vote did not mean he supports the proposal.

"Three of the committee members felt comfortable that it should continue in the process. And I know Sen. (Donald) Olson and I both plan on doing some research," Dyson said.

The bill moves to the Judiciary Committee next and then to the Finance Committee before going to the floor for a vote. The House of Representatives must also review the bill.

Gov. Frank Murkowski is pushing this law to criminalize marijuana and get findings on the record in order to open and overturn a 2003 Court of Appeals case that ruled Alaskans have the right to possess small quantities of marijuana in their homes.

Among the 19 findings in the bill are statements saying that marijuana is more addictive than heroin, it has a dramatically higher potency than before, and it leads smokers to commit violent crimes.

On Friday the AkCLU led a team of opponents who said the bill is based on a framework of evidence that is skewed to one view.

"The court will stand for a paper record of several hundred pages if the result is contrary to the evidence submitted," said Michael MacLeod-Ball, director of AkCLU.

The most debated finding throughout the afternoon was whether an increase in marijuana's potency has led to more addictions and associated problems.

"The marijuana of Cheech and Chong had a THC level of 1.5 percent," said John Bobo, adviser to the office of drug and alcohol policy U.S. Department of Transportation. He claims THC levels of homegrown pot today can be as high as 22 percent to 24 percent.

Mitch Earlewine, assistant professor of psychology at the University of Southern California, said that those high percentages are rare and the national average today is closer to 6 percent.

"When we give people cannabis that has 1 percent in the laboratory, they get a headache and claim it is placebo and they find it inactive and don't want to use it again," said Earlewine. "Obviously this wasn't the case in the 1970s or people wouldn't want to try it again."

Muscular sclerosis sufferer Jim Welch of Eagle River said the potency was a hidden "healthy" benefit: "That means I'm putting less smoke in my lungs."

Kelly Drew, a University of Alaska Fairbanks chemistry professor, phoned in to say that it is unlikely for marijuana to be addictive since it stays in the body's fat cells for about 30 days. Therefore, the body doesn't suffer withdrawal symptoms, she said.

Bobo also said that people under the influence of pot are more likely to commit accidents on the highways. The senators wondered why they haven't heard about marijuana being linked to such highway collisions.

"The media does not want to acknowledge there is a problem," said Assistant Attorney General Dean Guaneli, the bill's sponsor.


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Re: Experts say pot less harmful than alcohol or cigarettes [Re: veggie]
    #4008561 - 04/03/05 03:14 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I still don't understand the whole argument that stronger pot is worse for you. If I have mids I'm going to need to smoke a little more in order to get the high I want. If I have some homegrown hydro with THC content of 20 percent then I won't need to smoke as much. I can even vaporize it and consume it in a healthier way. Can somebody help me understand their logic that a higher THC content is bad?

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"The media does not want to acknowledge there is a problem," said Assistant Attorney General Dean Guaneli, the bill's sponsor



Is just laughable. I'm sure if there was a link between marijuana use and highway accidents the media would jump all over it. They do a brilliant job of spreading lies, so they would definitely report any truth they can find about pot being bad.


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Re: Experts say pot less harmful than alcohol or cigarettes [Re: DNKYD]
    #4008605 - 04/03/05 03:29 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Highly potent marijuana is/should be a good thing. Take 1 water filtered puff of the high grade to get sufficently stoned or smoke an entire joint of low end outdoor to get high.

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Re: Experts say pot less harmful than alcohol or cigarettes [Re: baraka]
    #4008658 - 04/03/05 03:50 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I have to play devil's advocate here..

1 tiny pinch of 20%thc homegrown through a vaporizer poses almost negligable health risks, true.  But it also means people can get really high, which in the eyes of the media/gov't, is bad.  Intoxicated people mean accidents, irresponsible citizens, etc.  Keep in mind I don't personally believe that that is always the case.

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Re: Experts say pot less harmful than alcohol or cigarettes [Re: veggie]
    #4008893 - 04/03/05 05:08 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

"this is the crack of marijuana" - druqczar
haha remember that horseshit


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Re: Experts say pot less harmful than alcohol or cigarettes [Re: Drink_Punk_Soda]
    #4009869 - 04/03/05 09:45 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Drink_Punk_Soda said:
I have to play devil's advocate here..

1 tiny pinch of 20%thc homegrown through a vaporizer poses almost negligable health risks, true.  But it also means people can get really high, which in the eyes of the media/gov't, is bad.  Intoxicated people mean accidents, irresponsible citizens, etc.  Keep in mind I don't personally believe that that is always the case.

:bongload:




right and people that are really high commit violent acts and are very abusive.  Good thing they aren't talking about alcohol and referring to it as pot or anything. 


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Re: Experts say pot less harmful than alcohol or cigarettes [Re: DNKYD]
    #4010114 - 04/03/05 10:28 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

As anybody who has smoked some good pot versus a lot of low grade pot knows, good pot doesn't just require less by material, it's an overall much more intense and better high. Therefore, if you were the government and considered marijuana a dangerous drug, a more potent form would make it even more mentally dangerous as the intensity of the high would increase and so would your intoxication.


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Re: Experts say pot less harmful than alcohol or cigarettes [Re: Ravus]
    #4012567 - 04/04/05 02:16 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

"Currently Alaska courts grant privacy protection to those possessing up to 4 ounces."

Whats this privacy bullshit. That's what i hate about whats happening in america. Girls can get an abortion, not because its their freedom to do so, but because they have the privacy to do so. What!? At what point did we start sacraficing freedom for panty-waste privacy?


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