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Invisiblejimi
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Which horse poo is the best horse poo?
    #4004770 - 04/02/05 01:50 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

I've recently found a cheap source for mountains of horse poo.

Some of the poo is fairly fresh and has not broken down at all. It just looks like it dried where it fell and was shoveled in a pile after it dried.

Some of the stuff has been piled and turned for a few months. It is so far composted that it almost looks like topsoil.

There is also poo in every stage between those two.

So, horse poo fiends, which is the best for cubensis?


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Re: Which horse poo is the best horse poo? [Re: jimi]
    #4004802 - 04/02/05 01:59 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Get the older stuff...the compost should work fine
I have taken the horse poo balls that are dry and squezze them into the compost so the poo ratio is raised
The dry compost will work just fine especially for a outdoor grow...
I have taken fully colonised substrate thats been crumbled in a container and added 30% H2o2 to the water thats added...\
Regular horse compost was used as a casing..wetted properly and the results were amazing..No pastuerization at all but the best results were from BRF 1/2 pinters that had been colonised for a long time :smile:


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Re: Which horse poo is the best horse poo? [Re: PawPaw]
    #4004838 - 04/02/05 02:06 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

My horses poo is so the best horse poo.

Not really. I dont have a horse.

If I did though, it would have way better poo than any other horse.

Just messing :smile: Aged is better..listen to PawPaw.


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Re: Which horse poo is the best horse poo? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4004882 - 04/02/05 02:19 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Im still wanting to start selling the horse compost online to the cultivators that want really quality compost...
Everytime i have used it the quality is unsurpassed ...the size of the fruits have been very awsome..I had one EQ that was 95 wet
Thats a big shroom :smile:....My girlfriend did only 2 dry gms ...I did 2.5 from the cap only and it was allmost to much..
The isolate was done by Prisioner #1 so he is the "Honcho" behind this most excellent strain :thumbup: :smirk:


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Re: Which horse poo is the best horse poo? [Re: PawPaw]
    #4004910 - 04/02/05 02:25 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

You could sell it..a vendor already does. There certainly are many like me who need to order it online..


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Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: Which horse poo is the best horse poo? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4004972 - 04/02/05 02:46 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

PM me your addy and i can send you some to try out...
Its very good horse compost and someone needs to try it out...
I guarantee its just as good as Tennesse studs product...
All the horses are very high end Quarter horses that are fed sweet feed which is all grain! Maybe its the grain that makes it so damn good for shrooms..The compost is a mix of wood chips, straw and the horse poo...
Yeah Scat pm me your addy and ill send you some free :thumbup:


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Eric just wants to catch reds ..
Don?t look back, don?t look back
He?s right on your trail
Don?t look back, don?t look back
He?s just a step away from hell
WDYWFM?


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Re: Which horse poo is the best horse poo? [Re: PawPaw]
    #4004990 - 04/02/05 02:50 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

PawPaw said:
PM me your addy and i can send you some to try out...





same here. if you need it, send a pm.
turd mountain is just down the road.


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Re: Which horse poo is the best horse poo? [Re: PawPaw]
    #4005011 - 04/02/05 02:56 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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PawPaw said:
Get the older stuff...the compost should work fine





Thanks.

I know that old stuff is better than fresh stuff, but there has got to be a point where it becomes too old and the quality begins to decline. The microorganisms are busy eating up all nutrients, while breaking down the poo.

There is a peak for poo performance. I don't know where it is. I'm just wondering if anybody has found at what stage peak poo performance exists.


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Re: Which horse poo is the best horse poo? [Re: eric_the_red]
    #4005016 - 04/02/05 02:57 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

The shroomery...where else can a guy get so many offers to send him a bunch of shit.

It puts such a big smile on my face, when the mail lady gets here...carrying the biggest load of shit she ever has..and doesnt even know it.


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Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: Which horse poo is the best horse poo? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4005028 - 04/02/05 03:00 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

I guarantee Eric knows his poo a lot better than me :smile:


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Come to Paw Paws place there will be no sleeping tonight

Eric just wants to catch reds ..
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He?s right on your trail
Don?t look back, don?t look back
He?s just a step away from hell
WDYWFM?


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Re: Which horse poo is the best horse poo? [Re: PawPaw]
    #4005044 - 04/02/05 03:05 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

actually, i don't use horse poo often.
you've probably used it more than i have.

now, turkey poo + straw and cow poo + straw, i have used a bunch.


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Re: Which horse poo is the best horse poo? [Re: jimi]
    #4005281 - 04/02/05 04:45 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

It is best if fresh h/poo can be allowed to weather for at least a week, or two, which allows ammonia (toxic to mycelia) to dissipate.

H/poo is good is because of its large microbe / bacterial population (as much as 5% of its mass). Plus it?s high nitrogen, cellulose / hemi-cellulose - humus complex content.

An OPTIMAL substrate has to provide the mushroom mycelium with a smorgasbord of food. Not only is lignin-humus complex and cellulose important, but protein, fat, and oils are also important.

A good analogy is protein serves as the mushroom?s
"steak", carbohydrates its "potatoes," and lipids (fats and oils) its "butter."

Like people, mushrooms should have a balance of all these nutriants.

The main source of "steak and butter" for the mushroom is from  microbes. The dead cells of thermophilic fungi, bacteria, and actino mycetes "firefang" are the packages that deliver protein and fat to the mushroom.

The addition of delayed-release supplements further enhances the protein and lipid content of the substrate.  Many of these supplements consist of a high-protein oil material, such as soybean meal, cornmeal, or feather meal, that has been treated to delay the availability of the nutrient for the mushroom.

If an untreated supplement is added to the substrate at this time, it often becomes a "candy bar" to other microbes, or competitor molds.

These molds grow more rapidly than the mushroom mycelium and can quickly colonize the substrate, competing with the mycelia for nutrients. The oils or lipids in these supplements are used by the mycelia to stimulate the fruiting mechanism and increase yield by having more mushrooms initiate and develop.

Yields can be increased from 0.25 to 1.5 lbs/sq. ft. of growing space. In addition, mushroom size will also be improved with higher spawning-moisture content. However, in substrate that is not selectively prepared, these nutrients become more available to competitor molds. :eek:


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Re: Which horse poo is the best horse poo? [Re: agar]
    #4005332 - 04/02/05 05:01 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Agar, if you were a chick, you'd be so hot.


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Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: Which horse poo is the best horse poo? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4005357 - 04/02/05 05:08 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Agar is a chick...she has damn good pussy
she broke my heart so be carefull :frown: :heart:


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Come to Paw Paws place there will be no sleeping tonight

Eric just wants to catch reds ..
Don?t look back, don?t look back
He?s right on your trail
Don?t look back, don?t look back
He?s just a step away from hell
WDYWFM?


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Re: Which horse poo is the best horse poo? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4005485 - 04/02/05 05:34 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

scatmanrav said:

Agar, if you were a chick, you'd be so hot.




lmfaooooo

he talks so damn myco-sexy doesn't he?


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PM the names with on there names, that means they have mushrooms for sale.



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Re: Which horse poo is the best horse poo? [Re: PawPaw]
    #4005541 - 04/02/05 05:45 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)


LOL... you must have this "agar" mixed up with another.


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Re: Which horse poo is the best horse poo? [Re: Roadkill]
    #4005561 - 04/02/05 05:49 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

I'm still curious about the question jimi asked about how aged the poo should be. I know that older is better than fresh, but how old is old?


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Re: Which horse poo is the best horse poo? [Re: ShortyMcAffy]
    #4005568 - 04/02/05 05:50 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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ShortyMcAffy said:
but how old is old?




Just enough time to get the ammonia out; a few weeks exposed to the great outdoors does the job.


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Re: Which horse poo is the best horse poo? [Re: agar]
    #4005573 - 04/02/05 05:51 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Damn, Agar. That Penis Envey really does grow good on horse poo.
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Re: Which horse poo is the best horse poo? [Re: agar]
    #4007321 - 04/03/05 03:09 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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agar said:

LOL... you must have this "agar" mixed up with another.



I knew it....youre a real dickhead :grin:


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Eric just wants to catch reds ..
Don?t look back, don?t look back
He?s right on your trail
Don?t look back, don?t look back
He?s just a step away from hell
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