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#4003148 - 04/01/05 11:21 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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hawksapprentice
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Re: Straight Verm Casing? [Re: ]
#4003217 - 04/01/05 11:35 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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Straight Verm will work, just not as well.
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Re: Straight Verm Casing? [Re: ]
#4003223 - 04/01/05 11:37 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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Hey, straight vermiculite will work, but no, not just as good. Your 9*9 pan is probably a little big for two 1/2 pints. Remember you want between a 2-3 inch substrate layer. Good Luck. Peace,Love,Happiness and Harmony. Hippie Chick
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Edited by richardcypher101 (04/01/05 11:38 PM)
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mushroommark
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Re: Straight Verm Casing? [Re: ]
#4003710 - 04/02/05 02:42 AM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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The FAQ is the best read anyone new could possible due, in my opinion;)
And it's fun to boot!
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scatmanrav
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Re: Straight Verm Casing? [Re: ]
#4004252 - 04/02/05 08:55 AM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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richardcypher101 said: Really? Didnt know the top layer had anything to do nutrient wise.
Who said the top layer has anything to do with nutrients?
The casing layer is there to provide moisture, a contam barrier, and a microclimate within which to fruit. Without coir/peat, you have a shitty microclimate and cant tell when the verm is drying out (coir changes color as it dries).
If you have a PetCo or PetSmart, you can find coco coir. Dont ask people, as I'm sure you already know, people are idiots..look yourself in the reptile section for Bed A Beast or Eco Earth ect. Also Hydroponic stores have large pricks of it.
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Re: Straight Verm Casing? [Re: scatmanrav]
#4004302 - 04/02/05 09:25 AM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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Dont ask people, as I'm sure you already know, people are idiots..look yourself
Some wise advice there! Seems to be a problem in alot of stores today. Almost gone is the day where you used to be able to ask a salesperson something and they would bend over backwards to help you. The best coir deals we have seen were on the net and it was something like 2 bucks for a brick that expands to 9 lt. The stuff is not that heavy for shipping either.
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Re: Straight Verm Casing? [Re: scatmanrav]
#4004319 - 04/02/05 09:33 AM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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The casing layer is there to provide moisture, a contam barrier, and a microclimate within which to fruit. Without coir/peat, you have a shitty microclimate and cant tell when the verm is drying out (coir changes color as it dries).
If you have a PetCo or PetSmart, you can find coco coir. Dont ask people, as I'm sure you already know, people are idiots..look yourself in the reptile section for Bed A Beast or Eco Earth ect. Also Hydroponic stores have large pricks of it.
scat if I could give you more than a 5 shroom rating...I would!~ your always on the money...with your answers.
Also look for this brand ---> Forest Bed by T-Rex...at petco. They usually have a 2 for 1 deal once a year. I still have 10 bricks from last year.
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scatmanrav
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Re: Straight Verm Casing? [Re: Roadkill]
#4004376 - 04/02/05 09:58 AM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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"The best coir deals we have seen were on the net and it was something like 2 bucks for a brick that expands to 9 lt. The stuff is not that heavy for shipping either."
Actually the best coir deals you'll find (which are on the net) are for the bales of coir. Its a brick just the same but REALLY big. Expands to 70-80 liters instead of just 7-9. Bales can be found at the hydro stores like I mentioned earlier too. Them bails go for like 15 bucks plus shipping. Shipping is a bit on lots of bricks of a bail...not tons..but like 10 bucks.
RK, Thanks for your always kind words.
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Re: Straight Verm Casing? [Re: scatmanrav]
#4004387 - 04/02/05 10:01 AM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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In my experiments the straight verm casing versus a 50/50 was much slower to fruit, in the same conditions.
Took about a week longer to pin. Not that my experiments are anything valid, since I only did this once, but still just another reason not to do it.
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Edited by richardcypher101 (04/02/05 10:57 AM)
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Shroom_man
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Re: Straight Verm Casing? [Re: ]
#4004688 - 04/02/05 11:32 AM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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I plan on going with a 50/50 [Verm/coco coir], when my straw based substrate, inuclated with rhy grain, has finished incubating. Mainly because I want my casing layer too actually look like acasa casing layer, and because it will give a better pinset IMHO. For the record, however, my friend uses just stright verm for his casings [colnized popcorn with straw substrate]. He got 2oz's dried on his first flush, in a shoe-box sized container!1
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