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CaRnAgECaNdY
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Bass Guitar
#4000075 - 04/01/05 11:55 AM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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I decided last year that I was going to learn to play a new instrument this year...somewhat of a new years resolution/goal or whatever. I know how to play the piano and the violin. Now I want to play the bass guitar. I'll buy one this month...and I'm gonna play the f**k out of it. I'm not sure of what type...brand...to buy. Any suggestions?
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Shroomism
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Ibanez
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Re: Bass Guitar [Re: Shroomism]
#4000543 - 04/01/05 01:18 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yeah, I'll agree with that... Ibanez makes a nice bass.
Two of my friends own this one.. they both play awesome:
http://www.ibanez.com/guitars/guitar.asp?model=BTB1205E
And it's fuckin' beautiful.
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Ibanez and if your going to get serious buy some kind of gibson
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The Ibanez Soundgear is a good bass to start out with because it has a thin neck which makes it easier to play, and the strings are closer together. They also sound surprisingly well for how light they are. Some of the lower end models are very cheap, but they are still very good quality.
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Re: Bass Guitar [Re: Shroomism]
#4001871 - 04/01/05 06:05 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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Shroomism said: Ibanez
Good call. I play a 5-string.
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I play a higher end ibanez 5 string soundgear, the ibanez BTBs are also nice, but it depends how much money you wanna spend on a bass. Spector makes good ones as well. As far as a gibson bass, they're not as sought after like their guitars are, warwicks are one of the holy grails of mass produced basses.
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Re: Bass Guitar [Re: discoabe]
#4001912 - 04/01/05 06:18 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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What model do you play, discoabe? Here is mine.
And I hafta agree with you on the Warwick's.
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Re: Bass Guitar [Re: discoabe]
#4001959 - 04/01/05 06:32 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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'high-end ibanez'..isn't that like some kind of an oxymoron or something? just kidding..
Maybe it's just personal preference, but I swear by my Spector (European made ReBop 4 string)..you can't ever go wrong with a Spector. I'd be willing to bet even their more affordable performance/professional lines may even give some of the other more prominent companies higher end models a run for their money.
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i'd have to agree with everyone here that an ibanez SoundGear is probably the best beginner's bass on the market. bass players are lucky in that there are many smaller manufacturers that kinda co-exist with each other once you are willing to pay a certain price. i play a 6 string Ken Smith bass. Some basses I have owned are: 5 string Pedulla, Yamaha 6 string Pattutucci (?sp?) model, 5 string MTD, 4 string 1964 Fender Jazz Bass, 5 string Elrick, 5 string Modulus..... maybe some more that i cant remember. i traded for most of my basses even money with other bass players i met on the road.
that said, my pride and joy is the 6 string Ken Smith. i play it through an Eden WorldTour800 with the 4x10 cabnet, but i want to upgrade to an Aguilar rig sometime before i die.
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just get a cheap one to being with, you are just starting aren't you.
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Re: Bass Guitar [Re: Locus]
#4003762 - 04/02/05 03:18 AM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yeah...I am just starting...but since money isn't an issue at this point...I want to get a quality instrument. One worth listening to.
Thanks guys...I'm checking them out online right now.
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Ibanez BTB is quality and mid-priced.. very nice bass. Spectors are also very nice.
Go 5 string! ... or 6!
Ohh baby
do you have long fingers?
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Re: Bass Guitar [Re: Shroomism]
#4004879 - 04/02/05 12:19 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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I find that when I started the bass I could hardly tell the difference in sound as I didn't play about with the tone/pickups at all, mostly all I could tell was if it had more strings or if it looked purrddyy heh.
So all in all you can't really go wrong to start off with!
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Re: Bass Guitar [Re: Shroomism]
#4004925 - 04/02/05 12:30 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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I do have long fingers. That's a hot looking bass.
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ToTheSummit....I play an SR885, japanese model. Here are a few pics, And that's one of my ferrets, Sokar, inspecting my bass.
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Re: Bass Guitar [Re: discoabe]
#4006425 - 04/02/05 08:15 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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don't listen to them they are plugging ibanez :P
i would recommend a 2nd hand bass that has been setup nicely.. brands don't matter, good guitars come from everywhere i find. check for fret buzz first and try find one with a nice low action, it helps a lot
oh and you are going to have huge blisters for a month or 2 if that hasn't already been mentioned
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Re: Bass Guitar [Re: faslimy]
#4009660 - 04/03/05 06:56 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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Learn the acoustic guitar or electric guitar first man, I made the mistake of going straight to the bass, ended up with some crappy results. If you learn to play the acoustic, the bass would be as easy as fuck.
And I recommend this starter pack: http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/g=bass/search/detail/base_pid/519677/?c_tid=topseller
Maybe you can try the bass violin hehe http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/g=bass/search/detail/base_pid/519677/?c_tid=topseller
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mine.
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Don't buy anything online. Every individual guitar plays/sounds different.
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I know how to play the piano and the violin.
That's bombing girl! Awesome! What kind of stuff do you play btw? And how long have you been playing?
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Re: Bass Guitar [Re: Fliquid]
#4019215 - 04/05/05 09:10 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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I started off just playing the bass and that's what made me a bassist and not a guitarist that can play the bass. Most guitarist that play the bass play pretty uninspired shit. Ofcourse there are exceptions however
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Re: Bass Guitar [Re: discoabe]
#4021025 - 04/06/05 09:56 AM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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true true. I did the same.. started playing bass and learned guitar later. A lot of people say.. just play guitar man, or bass is just guitar with 2 less strings. Not true. Everyone and their dog plays guitar.. there aren't enough good bass players to begin with. Plus, bass rules. That's crap that if you start with bass you'll get crappy results.. it's all about time and practice and learning, just like any instrument.
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Can't go wrong with a Fender jazz bass
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Or you can get the hofner, made famous by Paul:
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Just get a Fender Squier, their affordable and tolerable. Your gonna start playin bass so u dont really need a nice one yet.
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Re: Bass Guitar [Re: Shroomism]
#4023514 - 04/06/05 08:49 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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Shroomism said: true true. I did the same.. started playing bass and learned guitar later. A lot of people say.. just play guitar man, or bass is just guitar with 2 less strings. Not true. Everyone and their dog plays guitar.. there aren't enough good bass players to begin with. Plus, bass rules. That's crap that if you start with bass you'll get crappy results.. it's all about time and practice and learning, just like any instrument.
man, a guy i used to tour with put it best... when a guy rips a huge guitart solo on stage, all the guys in the crowd lose their shit, but when a great bassist is laying down the shit, so deep in the pocket he cant even see light, all the women in the audience are dancing and swinging dat ass.... whcih would you rather be the cause of?
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my last abss was like this but a 6 string. it got stolen and i miss it terribly.
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I have always been partial to Ibanez guitarz~, but with basses, I have never heard one "sound" better than Yamaha.... The one I have played in the past, as well as past band members, is a Yamaha RBX800A.... Really nice deep punchy solid sound all the way to helecopter blade chopping.... Desiree, if you listen to the song "Freight Train", that song was done with that bass - adjusted the way I like the bass sound....
I have a John Myung(Dream Theater) Yamaha 6-String bass too that I got for collection purposes.... I tell ya~ what, the neck is pretty wide....! I look at it and say "Damn, that is a big bass..." Then I think, "Hand cramp"....
Nuthin beats playing guitar.... Well, I guess a drum beats.... But....
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I would love to learn both. I suppose I'm attracted more to the deep sound of the bass.
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i also have a 5 string ibanez. not overly expensive but still a really good instrument. i cherish it ever so much. although i kinda like a 4 string for slapping. im so used to slapping on a 5 with the strings a bit closer together tho it's kinda weird for me to be playing on a 4
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Every beginner needs a Lotus.
Seriously though, a good player can make any instrument sound ok so its best to go to a store and try stuff out with your own style like was said above.
However, since you are beginning, it would be good to get something relatively cheap and then upgrade after a year or so when you can really walk into guitar center and pick up something good by playing it. Just a suggestion. I think it will make you happy in the long run if you really want to get into it.
No sense in buying a $1000 bass from suggesstions just to find out you would prefer something else after you develop.
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firstly, what type of stuff to you like to listen to and what do you think you want to learn to play? i know my answers to these questions would have been very different before i started to play bass compared with after and even very significant differences as i continued to improve.
i don't know if you have Godin's wherever you are, but they make some nice cheaper ones i started on an Ibanez GSR200 which was pretty darn cheap ($300 canadian) and it has the most versatility and best sound for the price that i have seen. after i got good i got some nice EMG active pickups and put em in that which made it sound much better than some $1000 yamahas i have heard. IMO yamahas are not too great till you get around the top end basses. also the soundgears are frickin easy to play because the neck
a used bass would probably be your best bet though, it should already be set up nicely assuming the owner was a cool cat and you could find a sweet deal on something that you will want to play for a long time.
some other important things: -when you are playing the instruments at a store (the only way to shop) they may not be set up or set up well. this can make a huge difference in the sound and how easy it is to play. so i recomment you go with someone who has some guitar or bass knowledge. -i would not start with a five or six string. it is harder (sort of) and until you get a good feel for the four strings i wouldnt go for one. i played for 3 years till i got a five string and even then i like a four string (fretless ) more for what i play most often. of course they isn't really anything wrong with a 5 or 6 string and eventually you will grow used to it. -a decent amp is also important. if you get a complete piece it will make any instrument sound like shit especially at high volume. to start a small 20 watt or 50w should do you alright, but to practice with drums, i would put 50 watts as the minimum.
either way, i hope you can get into it and develop further as a musician. i figure you probably know some theory if you know how to play piano and violin and that should come in handy after you get a general feel for playing. good luck
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Re: Bass Guitar [Re: holio1]
#4039534 - 04/11/05 12:13 AM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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I agree having an amp would be good, but decent amps can be kind of expencive.. Starting out I think I'd just go with whatever I could get without spending too much money, I played my first bass for almost two years before I finally got an amp..but then again I didn't have any money for one.. if you don't have an amp to begin with you could just try playing in a quiet room.. new/clean strings can help make it a little louder.. playing with a pick will also help. Besides, with no amp, in the meantime a beginner could probably get a reasonable head start on their overall technique so that when they do get an amp they don't piss off everybody in the house with it
Bah, do whatever, just don't forget to have fun with it
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