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Invisibledurban_poison
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left over ebb & flows?
    #399970 - 09/21/01 02:52 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

If you have an ebb & flow Im sure you can turn it into a giant hydrapod. Im going to be working on this. Hydrofarm sells ideal domes for the system. The domes are extremely thick plastic(clear) with holes for ventalation. Im going to attach hepa filters to all the holes and a fan on one of them(there are 4 holes).the base Im going to fill all the way up with geolite and Im going to put the pump on a timer and have it moisten the geolite for 15min every 2hrs. In the resivor Im going to use a aquarium heater to keep the water hydrogen peroxide solution at 70F. I have extra regulators has anyone tried to use oxygen to speed up growth and increase yeild? I know its necessary with plants but has anyone experimented with oxygen and mushrooms or know the right ppms for the atmosphere? I also have a climate control I think I will hook up(aviable from green air products.

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Re: left over ebb & flows? [Re: durban_poison]
    #400064 - 09/21/01 04:20 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Just using a small cheap fish tank airpump with one outlet and a single diffuser works well when placed in a pint jar filled with H2O2 in your growing chamber. Oxygen does increase yeilds my friend tells me, fruits need oxygen , thats one of the reasons for fanning. Try it, you will be pleasantly surprised.:) bluhoney

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Re: left over ebb & flows? [Re: bluhoney]
    #400103 - 09/21/01 04:55 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

when I said adding oxygen I mean enriching the atmosphere higher then normal outside levels. like plants need co2 but our atmosphere only contains 600ppms but most plants like enriched levels up to 1200ppms and they can grow up to 50% faster and fruit much more. Would the same be true for mushrooms? I find it hard to believe that no one has tried this yet.



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Re: left over ebb & flows? [Re: durban_poison]
    #400123 - 09/21/01 05:14 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

I think that the problem you will face is that working with enriched oxygen enviornments is dangerous. There is an extreme fire hazard. Not to mention getting compressed gas tanks filled with oxygen must be much more difficult than getting plain old CO2 which can be used around the home for lots of legitimate purposes.



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Re: left over ebb & flows? [Re: trstno1]
    #400163 - 09/21/01 05:55 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

I blow glass and have an abundance of oxygen tanks and it is only dangerous in mass quantitys. Oxygen tanks naturaly breath because the gas inside warms with its surroundings so the tank has to release oxygen to relieve the pressure. The small amount of enrichment that mushrooms would need would not be hazardous.



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Re: left over ebb & flows? [Re: durban_poison]
    #400168 - 09/21/01 05:58 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

My friend has tried this experiment . She took the theory from when the earth had a water layer around the atmosphere which tremendously increased the air volume which in turn made everything grow very large. Hence the size of dinosaurs. She tried to mimic this technique by useing 300PSI from a SCUBA tank into a 50 mil clear plastic ballon ( used for contamination). Once the tank was hooked up, the pressure was equal to 300psi in the ballon with a single tray of A strain from hawk's eye cased with plain verm. The results: VERY thick stems but only slightly larger fruits. Average in control group ranged from 5-6 inches with caps reacheing the size of coffe cup dishes. The pressure group had 8-10 inch stems with VERY thick stems. Only one flush though from the pressure group. The seal broke and the experiment was over. :smile: bluhoney

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Re: left over ebb & flows? [Re: bluhoney]
    #400197 - 09/21/01 06:22 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

"VERY thick stems but only slightly larger fruits"

try that in zero gravity, and you get big everything... theoretically speaking, i suppose...

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Re: left over ebb & flows? [Re: bluhoney]
    #400717 - 09/22/01 12:19 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Blu,
I would be very interested in hearing further details about H2O2 bubbler. I have been thinking of a similar setup involving O2 bottles on a timer to keep a constant high level of oxygen available to the fruits. (much like CO2 setup for dope growing).
If you could give further explanation that would be great.

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Re: left over ebb & flows? [Re: jebus2000]
    #400726 - 09/22/01 12:37 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

The set up is very cheap and works great. First buy a large bottle of H202 and a large jar. Fill the jar up almost to the top. Get one of the small air stone's for fish. Get about three foot of tubing. Then an airpump for small fish tanks. Connect the hose, bubblestone, and pump together and place the bubble stone in the jar filled with h2o2. Place the jar in your growing chamber. Run the hose outside the grow chamber and to the pump. Plug it in and there you have it. The H2O2 serves two purposes. First it stays clean alot longer than water. Next it is rich with O2. This also allows moist highly rich O2 to fill your growing chamber so less fanning is needed.  :smile: bluhoney

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Re: left over ebb & flows? [Re: bluhoney]
    #400731 - 09/22/01 12:44 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Bluhoney,
Would the bubbler be in place of perlite or in addition to? (I hope you know what you have done...I am already making my shopping list! LOL

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Re: left over ebb & flows? [Re: jebus2000]
    #400753 - 09/22/01 01:17 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

My friend has always went against the grain of lowering the humidity alot during fruiting. She only lowers it a few points from 100%. Her theory comes from the good old days of noticing the large fruits in the field's after a large rain when the humidity was very high and sticky. So she keeps the bubbler on with the addition of the perlite. Although it may be good to point out that she uses wheat straw as her casing layer most times or either compost. So one could point out that the vulnerability of the wheat straw drying out is aided by the high humidity she uses. Same goes with the compost casing layer. She then sprinkles a tiny amount of plain verm on top not even enough to cover the wheatstraw or compost.

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Re: left over ebb & flows? [Re: bluhoney]
    #401220 - 09/23/01 12:09 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

I am going to give the 300 psi. a try. I have an old fish tank that I will use and I already have access to diving equipment. I would love to see some pics. of the setup you used or the resultng shrooms. If you don't have any, could you explain how you hooked the tank up to the balloon? I guess you went straight off the tank (no regulator) and how often did you release for air exchange?
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Re: left over ebb & flows? [Re: bluhoney]
    #401481 - 09/23/01 11:40 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

also how where you sure you maintained 300 psi?



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Re: left over ebb & flows? [Re: durban_poison]
    #401514 - 09/23/01 12:19 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

The tank opened fully connected to the ballooning container was equalized. It will have to be noted that there is a margin for error in that there was no real way to check the psi in the ballon container, just theory that the tank holding 300psi opened and filled the ballon container with out losing any air to leaks (well, until it broke seal ofcourse). :smile:bluhoney

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Re: left over ebb & flows? [Re: jebus2000]
    #401527 - 09/23/01 12:39 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

My friend went straight from the pressure regulatorline. The top line that runs to your pressure gauge not the ones going to your octapus and primary. The bag she used was bought from a surplus store. A type of weather ballon-like air tight tough bag 50mil according to the store owner. The line from the tank rated at 4000psi max was connected to the tank and then run into the bag with a substrate tray included and about half a bag of damp h2o2 perlite added. the bag was then sealed with 2ton epoxy in three different rows incase one broke through( funny, they all broke through and the line shot out after the first flush). Slowly the tank was opened fully and the bag inflated. It may sound difficult, but it was actually very easy and fun to make. After the experiment my friend took the bag and connected it to a bleecher seat and cut holes in the bottom of it about the size of quarters and hooked a vaccum cleaner up to it on outlet, and had a hover craft. LOL, Now that was fun. :smile: bluhoney

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Re: left over ebb & flows? [Re: bluhoney]
    #401573 - 09/23/01 01:50 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

when the seal borke was anyone home ? Did it break anything? Once somebody knocked over one of my nitrous tanks and it shot threw the dry wall ito the other bedroom and broke everything because of the temp. How do you suppose I explained that to my landlord?

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Re: left over ebb & flows? [Re: durban_poison]
    #401618 - 09/23/01 02:30 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

No one was home. When my friend did return she found perlite slung everywhere, but that was about the extent of the damage. Although before she went back diving she had to have her tank inspectewd just to be safe. I bet your landlord wasnt to happy. Did you tell him your apartment had very big termites, and he should have worned you before you moved in.LOL, glad you werent harmed.:)bluhoney

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Re: left over ebb & flows? [Re: bluhoney]
    #401630 - 09/23/01 02:46 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

no I was lucky in the sitituation cause a week before unfortunately my roomates robbed my garden and took off. Luckily my name wasnt on the lease only theres so I didnt care (because of the robbery we threw a hell of a party just to see what would happen when you have over 100 fucked up idiots running around a small house), but when I returned to the house to get my shit out a week later there was a different lock on the door and a police report saying if I wanted in I would have to contact them and the landlord. Needless to say I bought all new furniture and cloths and returned back to my normal life.



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