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Invisiblemjshroomer
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U.S> A Fucked Up on WMD Stories (READ THIS)
    #3994413 - 03/31/05 11:26 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

In a scathing report, a presidential commission said Thursday that America's spy agencies were "dead wrong" in most of their judgments about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction before the war and that the United States knows "disturbingly little" about the threats posed by many of the nation's most dangerous adversaries. The commission called for dramatic change to prevent future failures. It outlined 74 recommendations and said President Bush could implement most of them without action by Congress.

It urged Bush to give broader powers to John Negroponte, his choice to be the new director of national intelligence, to deal with any challenges to his authority from the CIA, Defense Department or other elements of the nation's 15 spy agencies.

It also called for sweeping changes at the FBI to combine the bureau's counterterrorism and counterintelligence resources into a new office.

The report was the latest tabulation of intelligence shortfalls documented in a series of investigations since the terror attacks of Sept. 11, 2001 against the United States. Numerous investigations have concluded that spy agencies had serious intelligence failures before the attacks.

Bush received the report in a meeting with commission members in the Cabinet Room where he was flanked by the panel's co-chairmen, Republican Laurence Silberman, a retired federal appeals court judge, and Democrat Charles Robb, a former senator from Virginia. Bush did not comment but his spokesman said the president would set up a process to review each recommendation and act "in a fairly quick period of time."

The report implicitly absolves the administration of manipulating the intelligence used to launch the 2003 Iraq war, putting the blame for bad intelligence directly on the intelligence community.

"The daily intelligence briefings given to you before the Iraq war were flawed," it said. "Through attention-grabbing headlines and repetition of questionable data, these briefings overstated the case that Iraq was rebuilding its WMD programs."

The unclassified version does not go into significant detail on the intelligence community's assessment of countries such as Iran, North Korea, China and Russia because commissioners did not want to tip the U.S. hand about what is known. Those details are included in the classified version.

"Across the board, the intelligence community knows disturbingly little about the nuclear programs of many of the world's most dangerous actors," the report said. "In some cases it knows less now than it did five or 10 years ago."

Rep. Ike Skelton (news, bio, voting record) of Missouri, the top Democrat on the House Armed Services Committee, said the failures were widespread.

"I don't think you can blame any one person, although the buck does stop at the top of every one of these agencies," Skelton said. "But quite honestly, the fault is spread out across all the agencies."

The commission was formed by Bush a year ago to look at why U.S. spy agencies mistakenly concluded that Iraq had stockpiles of weapons of mass destruction, one of the administration's main justifications for invading in March 2003.

"We conclude that the intelligence community was dead wrong in almost all of its prewar judgments about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction," the report said. "This was a major intelligence failure."

The main cause was the intelligence community's "inability to collect good information about Iraq's WMD programs, it said, and serious errors in analyzing what information it could gather and a failure to make clear just how much of its analysis was based on assumptions rather than good evidence.

"On a matter of this importance, we simply cannot afford failures of this magnitude," the report said.

On al-Qaida, the commission found that the intelligence community was surprised by the terrorist network's advances in biological weapons, particularly a virulent strain of a disease that the report keeps secret, identifying it only as "Agent X."

mjshroomer

What a crock of shit Bush, Rumsfeld and Godzillaliza Rice and thier cronies fed us all. He is a war criminal like Bobby Fisher said.

Notice how Bush's Report which he set up exonerates him and blames the intelligence community. Gosh were they ever intelligent at all. The buck stops here should be at Bush's footsteps, not the intel people, although they gave him false info and bad info. If he used it then he is fucking responsible.


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Re: U.S> A Fucked Up on WMD Stories (READ THIS) [Re: mjshroomer]
    #3994418 - 03/31/05 11:26 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Godzillaliza Rice. :lol:


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Re: U.S> A Fucked Up on WMD Stories (READ THIS) [Re: mjshroomer]
    #3994452 - 03/31/05 11:36 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Dude, Bobby Fischer?

The same Bobby Fischer that called the September 11 attacks "good news"? The Bobby Fischer that said he hoped the US imprisoned and executed several hundred thousand jews?

Surely you can find someone who isn't an insane antisemite to credit.


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Re: U.S> A Fucked Up on WMD Stories (READ THIS) [Re: Phluck]
    #3994455 - 03/31/05 11:37 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

:thumbup:  He's an awesome chess player, but a person with some very twisted views.


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Re: U.S> A Fucked Up on WMD Stories (READ THIS) [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #3994514 - 03/31/05 11:49 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Iraq had more than a year to move the WMDs to other countries.
Saddam knew war was coming, he knew the US was accusing him of having WMDs. Why wouldn't he get them out of Iraq before the war?


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Re: U.S> A Fucked Up on WMD Stories (READ THIS) [Re: California]
    #3994676 - 03/31/05 12:24 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Because Colin Powell didnt say "We know right where they were before Saddam moved them".

Colin Powell said, to the United Nations...

"We know they have these weapons, and we know where they are."

Fucking liar.


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