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MatRatSFV
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Spores from dry shrooms??
#3990556 - 03/30/05 01:50 PM (19 years, 3 days ago) |
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Im trying to get some spores(i live in one of the two states noone willship to )and i have a bag of "shroom shake" from a QP of some pretty good local goldencaps, I assume that a viable sporeprint or syringe would have to be taken from a fresh mushroom whenever it releases its spores, but ive been looking for an answer to this question for a long time and have found no info on "spores from dried shrooms"
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sketchytripper
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i also have been wondering this question for quite some time now.
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kingboomer
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Re: [b][/b]Spores from dry shrooms???????????????????????[b][/b] [Re: MatRatSFV]
#3990569 - 03/30/05 01:52 PM (19 years, 3 days ago) |
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You cannot get spores from dried shrooms.
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Re: [b][/b]Spores from dry shrooms???????????????????????[b][/b] [Re: kingboomer]
#3990575 - 03/30/05 01:54 PM (19 years, 3 days ago) |
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not of any valuable amount, anyway. they most likely won't do anything.
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Re: [b][/b]Spores from dry shrooms???????????????????????[b][/b] [Re: kingboomer]
#3990577 - 03/30/05 01:54 PM (19 years, 3 days ago) |
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Your best chance is placing some chunks from the inner caps on antibiotic agar, and isolating from there. That's if you get any germination.
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Re: [b][/b]Spores from dry shrooms???????????????????????[b][/b] [Re: MatRatSFV]
#3990590 - 03/30/05 01:56 PM (19 years, 3 days ago) |
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Gah, please don't post with such obnoxious subjects. And is SFV San Fernando Valley by any chance?
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tahoe
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Re: [b][/b]Spores from dry shrooms???????????????????????[b][/b] [Re: kingboomer]
#3990738 - 03/30/05 02:26 PM (19 years, 3 days ago) |
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kingboomer said: You cannot get spores from dried shrooms.
I hate bad info. You CAN get spores from the cap. Read the latter part of this post. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/3762775/an/0/page/0
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kingboomer
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Re: [b][/b]Spores from dry shrooms???????????????????????[b][/b] [Re: tahoe]
#3990755 - 03/30/05 02:28 PM (19 years, 3 days ago) |
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I wasn't trying to give bad info, I was making a statement from my previous experiences. And I was wrong.
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tahoe
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Re: [b][/b]Spores from dry shrooms???????????????????????[b][/b] [Re: kingboomer]
#3990761 - 03/30/05 02:29 PM (19 years, 3 days ago) |
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okay, glad we cleared this up
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MatRatSFV
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Re: [b][/b]Spores from dry shrooms???????????????????????[b][/b] [Re: tahoe]
#3990876 - 03/30/05 02:45 PM (19 years, 3 days ago) |
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Yup SFV is San Fernando Valley
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Re: [b][/b]Spores from dry shrooms???????????????????????[b][/b] [Re: kingboomer]
#3990894 - 03/30/05 02:48 PM (19 years, 3 days ago) |
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kingboomer said: You cannot get spores from dried shrooms.
So you meant to say "I (meaning You) can't!" Cause I can
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Hotnuts
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Re: [b][/b]Spores from dry shrooms???????????????????????[b][/b] [Re: Shdwstr]
#3991153 - 03/30/05 03:46 PM (19 years, 3 days ago) |
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If you're going to get spores from a dry specimen, put them on agar. Most likely they will be contaminated. If there is contamination on the plate, along with healthy mycelium, simply pour another layer of hot agar on top of the first layer, completely covering the first layer. This will allow the mycelium to crawl through to the top layer, leaving the contaminate behind on the first layer. Then lightly scrape off the healthy growth and transfer to another new plate.
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Re: [b][/b]Spores from dry shrooms???????????????????????[b][/b] [Re: Hotnuts]
#3991188 - 03/30/05 03:55 PM (19 years, 3 days ago) |
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the heat of the new agar won't hurt the mycellium?
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Re: [b][/b]Spores from dry shrooms???????????????????????[b][/b] [Re: MatRatSFV]
#3991207 - 03/30/05 03:59 PM (19 years, 3 days ago) |
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I've had plenty of success transferring dried gill fragments onto a small square of cardboard placed onto peroxidated agar.
H202 kills mushroom spores but the cardboard acts as a barrier until the spores germinate.
Then just transfer the mycelium to other plates until you have a pure culture.
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Re: [b][/b]Spores from dry shrooms???????????????????????[b][/b] [Re: Amatoxin]
#3991277 - 03/30/05 04:13 PM (19 years, 3 days ago) |
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You can get spores from a bag of dried mushrooms. You can also get tissue from a bag of dried mushrooms.
In other words, dry mushroom material will grow again. In fact, dry mushrooms tissue is viable long after the spores are not. Simply re-hydrate and use. Of course, contamination if present will also grow. It may take a few transfers to get a clean culture. RR
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tahoe
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Re: [b][/b]Spores from dry shrooms???????????????????????[b][/b] [Re: RogerRabbit]
#3991295 - 03/30/05 04:19 PM (19 years, 3 days ago) |
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Quote:
RogerRabbit said:
You can also get tissue from a bag of dried mushrooms.
In other words, dry mushroom material will grow again. In fact, dry mushrooms tissue is viable long after the spores are not. Simply re-hydrate and use.
the fuck you say? Interesting. I would have to call bullshit but i have never tried it so i dont know
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Hotnuts
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Re: [b][/b]Spores from dry shrooms???????????????????????[b][/b] [Re: NeedMoreSleep]
#3991333 - 03/30/05 04:25 PM (19 years, 3 days ago) |
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NeedMoreSleep said: the heat of the new agar won't hurt the mycellium?
No. Well not enough to kill it completely.
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Amatoxin
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Re: [b][/b]Spores from dry shrooms???????????????????????[b][/b] [Re: RogerRabbit]
#3991339 - 03/30/05 04:26 PM (19 years, 3 days ago) |
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RogerRabbit said: In fact, dry mushrooms tissue is viable long after the spores are not. Simply re-hydrate and use. Of course, contamination if present will also grow. It may take a few transfers to get a clean culture. RR
From what I've read on the subject, you are the only one to claim this.
Have you anything to back this up?
Links?
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Hotnuts
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Re: [b][/b]Spores from dry shrooms???????????????????????[b][/b] [Re: tahoe]
#3991372 - 03/30/05 04:32 PM (19 years, 3 days ago) |
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Quote:
tahoe said:
Quote:
RogerRabbit said:
You can also get tissue from a bag of dried mushrooms.
In other words, dry mushroom material will grow again. In fact, dry mushrooms tissue is viable long after the spores are not. Simply re-hydrate and use.
the fuck you say? Interesting. I would have to call bullshit but i have never tried it so i dont know
You know, I heard somewhere that dry mushroom tissue could outlast spores for reproducing. I think RR said something about it?
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tahoe
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Re: [b][/b]Spores from dry shrooms???????????????????????[b][/b] [Re: Hotnuts]
#3992167 - 03/30/05 07:38 PM (19 years, 2 days ago) |
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i bet you have heard that somewhere\
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