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Panaeolus cyanescens cultivation
    #3991124 - 03/30/05 05:38 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I've been looking into growing Panaeolus cyanescens after spending time with Psilocybe cubensis. What I am wondering is, is there a differance in cultivation?


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Re: Panaeolus cyanescens cultivation [Re: Just_a_Shadow]
    #3991243 - 03/30/05 06:06 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

yes, go read up on it. a lot different.


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Re: Panaeolus cyanescens cultivation [Re: Just_a_Shadow]
    #3991306 - 03/30/05 06:21 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

It's not different at all. It's basically the same thing. WBS, compost/straw, case, fruit


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Re: Panaeolus cyanescens cultivation [Re: SoopaX]
    #3991356 - 03/30/05 06:30 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

It's not as hard as it seems. I was pretty rough/unsanitary with my and everything is still doing good after 3 flushes. My pinsets aren't that great but it was my first time.


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Re: Panaeolus cyanescens cultivation [Re: ymhrswrider]
    #3992613 - 03/30/05 11:25 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

would brf/verm cased with just more verm work? if not what about rye grain cased with verm?


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Re: Panaeolus cyanescens cultivation [Re: Just_a_Shadow]
    #3992714 - 03/30/05 11:53 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

as i said, it's totally different ballgame. Soopa is misleading. it requires much more knowledge than that of BRF.


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Re: Panaeolus cyanescens cultivation [Re: derx]
    #3992737 - 03/30/05 11:57 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

ya I heard mixing reports on this some say its not that much harder some say it is.  I hear the contams are the biggest problem and for some reason contams follow me around. :frown:


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Re: Panaeolus cyanescens cultivation [Re: GNIOM1498]
    #3992766 - 03/31/05 12:06 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Yahh, and to speed up colonizing times, consider adding a small amount of manure to your jars of grain.

Does wonders, have pics if you need to see.


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Re: Panaeolus cyanescens cultivation [Re: XTCollection]
    #3992784 - 03/31/05 12:11 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Oh yeah, pics and any grow logs that go with it if that possible, I would like to learn just to make sure theres not much differance.


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Re: Panaeolus cyanescens cultivation [Re: Just_a_Shadow]
    #3993003 - 03/31/05 01:07 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Just make sure you use poo. I didn't for one of my casings and the mushies only got to about 10% the size of the ones with poo.


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Re: Panaeolus cyanescens cultivation [Re: Just_a_Shadow]
    #3993019 - 03/31/05 01:10 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

If you can do grains, spawn pastuerized compost, and make a casing layer, you can do pan cyans.




Spawned 3/25, pic taken 3/29. 1/2" deep, 1 jar grain, the left one pictured below



More to follow, will start a grow log at some point.


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Re: Panaeolus cyanescens cultivation [Re: Just_a_Shadow]
    #3994146 - 03/31/05 10:24 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Take a look a the mushroom cultivation archives, the panaeolus and grow logs sections. Really helpfull info man.


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Re: Panaeolus cyanescens cultivation [Re: Semilanceata]
    #3998982 - 04/01/05 08:56 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Don't fret though. I had never done WBS(I had done popcorn) or spawn to poo. After the casings with out the poo produced the small mushies, I broke it in two and spawned the casing halves to poo. Everything went fine and now I've got mushies. My ferret even dug through the casing layer on one with now contams. Keep in mind that he steps on his own pee and poo when he uses the litter box. Pan cyans weren't hard at all.


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Re: Panaeolus cyanescens cultivation [Re: ymhrswrider]
    #4000332 - 04/01/05 02:42 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Oh ok, well for some reason I always thought poo could easly contaminate, but apparently not.


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Re: Panaeolus cyanescens cultivation [Re: Just_a_Shadow]
    #4001818 - 04/01/05 07:48 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

you pasteurize it, so its pretty resistant.


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Re: Panaeolus cyanescens cultivation [Re: kilgore_trout]
    #4002137 - 04/01/05 09:28 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

its not poo that easily contams, its straw.


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Re: Panaeolus cyanescens cultivation [Re: derx]
    #4002170 - 04/01/05 09:38 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

never used straw but from what ive read derx is right and there should be many people who would support derx's assertion.


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Re: Panaeolus cyanescens cultivation [Re: kilgore_trout]
    #4002816 - 04/02/05 12:16 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

would u use straight poop then or poop and vermiculite?


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Re: Panaeolus cyanescens cultivation [Re: derx]
    #4002841 - 04/02/05 12:20 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

its not poo that easily contams, its straw.




The cat has found pasteurized straw to be quite contam resistent. Dung too, for that matter.


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Re: Panaeolus cyanescens cultivation [Re: dog]
    #4002871 - 04/02/05 12:27 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I don't know im thinking my straw is contam with cob web but im not to sure.


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