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Offlineicculus_
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24 hour light?
    #3981329 - 03/28/05 08:21 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

i know everyone says once fruiting 12/12 but just curious as to why 24 is bad, if its phototrophic it would seem like any amount of light would do? sorry, i couldnt find any info on this in the archive.


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Re: 24 hour light? [Re: icculus_]
    #3981590 - 03/28/05 09:23 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

come on, no takers on this question?


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Re: 24 hour light? [Re: icculus_]
    #3981598 - 03/28/05 09:25 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Mushrooms benefit greatly during from the dark cycle, I know this for a fact. Can't give you the biological explanation, because I've never heard one, if there even is one so far.

It's very important, especially during fruiting stage. They almost seem to grow 3x as fast during the dark cycle.


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Re: 24 hour light? [Re: Holydiver]
    #3981607 - 03/28/05 09:30 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

faster isnt better necessarily though, is it? im just wondering if theres any proof that 24 is harming them, or why its not just as good. the imitation of the natural cycle makes sense, my problem is that my cakes are in a room with a plant that autoflowers, and benefits from 24 hour light, and the shrooms have appeared really small so far, but the ones in casings are starting to come in pretty large despite the 24 hour light. im still worried that im not getting the best product possible, i suppose theyd be better off in a closet. but, the temp in the room there in is more optimal than the closet... choices.


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Re: 24 hour light? [Re: icculus_]
    #3981621 - 03/28/05 09:34 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

faster isnt better necessarily though, is it?

Not always, but in this case...darkness is better. As diver said, I can't explain it either...but its a definate fact.

If the temp is below 82 then they will be better in the closet.


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Re: 24 hour light? [Re: icculus_]
    #3981625 - 03/28/05 09:34 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Someone posted their experiment using differing light cycles awhile back, and it proved rather convincingly that mushrooms grow faster with an extended dark period.


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Re: 24 hour light? [Re: dog]
    #3981638 - 03/28/05 09:37 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

the dark gives the mushrooms a chance to fatten up before 'reaching for the light' again.

also...more light evaporates your casing layer.


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Re: 24 hour light? [Re: Colbadol]
    #3981739 - 03/28/05 10:01 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

well, sounds good enough to me. not worth risking anyway, and it would make sense that i got small shrooms cause they grew in a few days and dropped spores, seemed quick. and my casing layer was unexplainably dry... haha. anyway, sweet, thanks scatman/diver/colbadol


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Re: 24 hour light? [Re: icculus_]
    #3982365 - 03/28/05 11:51 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

speaking of lights... do you want to have a bright ligt or a somewhat dim light?? i have a dim one but not sure if it will do the trick


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    #3982425 - 03/29/05 12:00 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: 24 hour light? [Re: Sbealzebub]
    #3982443 - 03/29/05 12:02 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

christmas lights doo the trick well... any light really will work ok.. GL bro :stoned:


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Re: 24 hour light? [Re: NeedMoreSleep]
    #3982517 - 03/29/05 12:11 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

my friend grew with 24hrs of light, and they were some big, bomb ass potent shrooms. I can't say that this is better than 12/12, and most likely it isn't. He didn't exactly go about the growing process in the most optimal way. He just did what he knew worked and didn't care if one tiny factor made it work better...


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Re: 24 hour light? [Re: dr0mni]
    #3986404 - 03/29/05 08:00 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Alright, during the photo-period (w/ light) mushrooms produce a growth enzyme. But the enzyme is not activated until there is low-none UV penetration. Technically, the mushrooms grow in the dark and promote growth during the day. 12/12 is perfect.


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Re: 24 hour light? [Re: ]
    #3986407 - 03/29/05 08:01 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

richardcypher101 said:
Mushrooms do most of their growing in the dark. Plus keeping it 12/12 immitates the natural process with the sun.



couldnt have sed it better myself


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Re: 24 hour light? [Re: lordoftheshroomz]
    #3986431 - 03/29/05 08:05 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

sounds pretty scientific irishrev, i like that answer


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Re: 24 hour light? [Re: icculus_]
    #3986455 - 03/29/05 08:09 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

damn that guy must kno his stuff eh?


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Re: 24 hour light? [Re: Colbadol]
    #3986804 - 03/29/05 09:24 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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Colbadol said:

also...more light evaporates your casing layer.




Oh really, shining light on vermiculite will turn it from a solid into a gas?


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Re: 24 hour light? [Re: LanceArmstrong]
    #3986811 - 03/29/05 09:25 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

LanceArmstrong said:
Quote:

Colbadol said:

also...more light evaporates your casing layer.




Oh really, shining light on vermiculite will turn it from a solid into a gas?




Only fluorescent light.


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Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
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Re: 24 hour light? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3986838 - 03/29/05 09:29 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

:lol:


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