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OfflineBlueDogAnchorite
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Grow the Hawaiians?
    #3973551 - 03/26/05 08:18 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

I know Hawaiians are harder to grow than most mushrooms and that they are also stronger, but do you think it is cost efficient to grow them. Will their greater potency offset the more money needed to be spent on them, compared to say.. a common cubensis strain?


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Re: Grow the Hawaiians? [Re: BlueDogAnchorite]
    #3973557 - 03/26/05 08:20 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

aren't they cubies also just another strain?


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Re: Grow the Hawaiians? [Re: THEDANGLER]
    #3973563 - 03/26/05 08:22 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

PESHawaiians are a bit temperamental. They colonized very slow for me, and were picky about fruiting temps. Not my favorite strain.


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Re: Grow the Hawaiians? [Re: BlueDogAnchorite]
    #3973570 - 03/26/05 08:25 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Hawaiians are no harder to grow then other cubes. They are just called that cause a company out here named em that. There is no true Hawaiian cube. In fact they are quiet easy to grow, and get rather large.




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Re: Grow the Hawaiians? [Re: BlueDogAnchorite]
    #3973572 - 03/26/05 08:25 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

cubie's are cubie's and the pes hawaiin strain is no harder to grow than any other cubenis strain in fact i noticed no difference in the growth of the PF original, Treasure Coast, Hawaiin, and B+ strains (the original PF strains) :mushroom2: Except for their fruits  :mushroom2:, and as far as potency they were all similiar, but did differed according to flush In my experience


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Re: Grow the Hawaiians? [Re: BladeLSD]
    #3973574 - 03/26/05 08:27 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Hawaiian's i had all contammed before I ever got to case them, I don't know if it was me or they are just less contam resistant or what.


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Re: Grow the Hawaiians? [Re: kronnyQ]
    #3973602 - 03/26/05 08:33 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Those are PESA in your picture Magash, am I correct? I recognize the nipples. Different strain altogether than PESH. Yes, both Pacifica Exotica Spora origin, but not the same thing.


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Re: Grow the Hawaiians? [Re: Holydiver]
    #3973619 - 03/26/05 08:39 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

No, they are the PESH. I like em a lot they do very well on grains.


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Re: Grow the Hawaiians? [Re: Magash]
    #3973641 - 03/26/05 08:43 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

You cant kill them with a blowtorch and they are very fast colonisers
Beautifull medium sized fruits...PEASA`s were my first casing/grow  :thumbup:


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Re: Grow the Hawaiians? [Re: PawPaw]
    #3973722 - 03/26/05 09:04 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

PESA are not Hawaiians. :rolleyes:


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Re: Grow the Hawaiians? [Re: Holydiver]
    #3974024 - 03/26/05 10:34 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah i know that ..the hawaiians i grew were Hawaiians from THE
I have gotten some good syringes from them but the best as far as a supplier is www.ralphstersspores.com
I knew someone would call me on that :wink:good eye


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Re: Grow the Hawaiians? [Re: Holydiver]
    #3974819 - 03/27/05 02:06 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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PESA are not Hawaiians. :rolleyes:



No there amazonians Magash's are definitely PESH with the distictive "tit" reminds me of Madonna for some reason? :wink:


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Re: Grow the Hawaiians? [Re: hyphae]
    #4065476 - 04/17/05 02:21 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Ok, I am really confused. I'm pretty sure hawaiians are not a cubensis strain, so I'm quite confused..


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Re: Grow the Hawaiians? [Re: BlueDogAnchorite]
    #4065508 - 04/17/05 02:34 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Not my favorite strain, but not bad.



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Re: Grow the Hawaiians? [Re: BlueDogAnchorite]
    #4065514 - 04/17/05 02:39 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

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Ok, I am really confused. I'm pretty sure hawaiians are not a cubensis strain, so I'm quite confused..




If you are talking about true hawaiian mushrooms you must be talking about Copelandia cyanescens then...they actually grow in hawaii.

There is a strain of Cubensis that is called hawaiians...but they are not from or do they grow wild in hawaii.

So...that is why there is some confusion.

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Re: Grow the Hawaiians? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4065526 - 04/17/05 02:46 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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Not my favorite strain, but not bad.





That pic almost resembles the King Tuber:



I'm just finishing up a batch of PESH at the moment, not very impressed. Not a strain I'm going to repeat. PESA on the other hand is a nice strain.


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Re: Grow the Hawaiians? [Re: Holydiver]
    #4066150 - 04/17/05 07:51 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

>PESA on the other hand is a nice strain.

Agreed :smile: My second favorite, next to Z's.


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Re: Grow the Hawaiians? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4066172 - 04/17/05 08:04 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

i, too like hawiiians. one of my first strains. one of my favorites as well. ^_^.


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Re: Grow the Hawaiians? [Re: BlueDogAnchorite]
    #4068386 - 04/18/05 01:08 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Copelandia cyanescens var "Hawaiian" are not much harder to grow then cubensis, they just don't yield as much. I would estimate they yield 1/4-1/6 as much as cubensis, and they require either a straw, or manure substrate to reach full size.

Pacific exotica spore supply in Hawaii also sold cunbensis strains that were labled PESH, or Pacific exotic spore hawaiian, not native to hawaii, but labled with that name.

PESA is a cubensis they claimed was a azurescens that fruited in warm temps, I BELEIVE, but is actuially just a REALLY GOOD cubensis strain.


Copelandia cyanescens "hawaiian" is Very much worth the effort. Is it a commercial species, NO.

1 oz dry of Copelandia = 14-56 doses
1 oz cubensis = 4-16 doses

3.5 X potency of cubensis estimated but yields are .25 or less that of cubensis.

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Re: Grow the Hawaiians? [Re: EonTan]
    #4068610 - 04/18/05 02:33 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

nice post EonTan!~

nice to see you still posting!~

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