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OfflineLEC
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increasing potency
    #3963580 - 03/24/05 05:30 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

it seems like this would be a question that has been asked but i cant find anything so please dont flame me.

i am totally new to the mushroom scene and know nothing, i just ordered my first spores, PESA strain and i am goin to use the pf tek. i was wondering if there is anything you can add to the mixture to get more potent mushrooms, seems like there has to be something. or anything to do or add during the growing cycle that makes them more potent.

Also any tips for growing this type of mushroom would be great. and i cant find a direct answer for what type shroom yeilds the most weight, there has to be a certain one thats yields more? And also what method will get me the best results in terms of weight per yield, i would like a good method to try after my first pf tek.


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Re: increasing potency [Re: LEC]
    #3963717 - 03/24/05 07:18 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Use the search engine on shroomery, study up and you will understand.


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Re: increasing potency [Re: johnhenry]
    #3963768 - 03/24/05 08:01 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

:handth:

If you look and can't find what you're looking for, Drop me a pm, I'll send you links, read it, then ask me about it or post...If i told you everything in detail right now it'd be like trying to read/understand a foregin language that you've never heard of

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Re: increasing potency [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #3964207 - 03/24/05 11:49 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Good analogy.  Although with all the lingo and abbreviations on the boards, we practically do speak a different language  :smirk:


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Re: increasing potency [Re: Aeolus1369]
    #3965643 - 03/24/05 06:14 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

you use tryptamine.HCL from what i understand right but thats hard to come by in the states. I read tryptophan doesn't do anyhting because its a completely different chemical.


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Re: increasing potency [Re: xburn]
    #3965661 - 03/24/05 06:19 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Yes tryptamine can increase levels more than 300% http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/7953

But good luck getting your hands on some :laugh:


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Re: increasing potency [Re: LEC]
    #3965694 - 03/24/05 06:29 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

LEC said:
it seems like this would be a question that has been asked but i cant find anything so please dont flame me.




I'm not flaming I promise.

But seriously click  right here.

Type in the name of your post -- increasing potency --

I got ---- Results 1 - 25 of 1000.

That should help you out a little :thumbup:

OH YEA change the date thing to 5 years.


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Re: increasing potency [Re: MrMaddHatter]
    #3965738 - 03/24/05 06:43 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)



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Re: increasing potency [Re: xburn]
    #3965789 - 03/24/05 06:57 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

xburn said:
you use tryptamine.HCL from what i understand right but thats hard to come by in the states. I read tryptophan doesn't do anyhting because its a completely different chemical.




Actually, tryptamine is only one chemical group away from tryptophan (ya, an amine group if you hadn't guessed). Check out this link for a little biochemistry regarding synthesis.

I never really understood why a substrate with lots of tryptophan would make for more potent mushrooms as many people claim (ie Alien's special substrate) since mushrooms can synthesize their own tryptophan and it would therefore probably not be a limiting factor in psilocybin synthesis. If there was an overabundance of tryptophan my guess would be that it would just be channeled into other metabolic pathways, but who knows...maybe psilocybin production is a high priority for cubes?


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