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OfflineJeroen198
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tripping alone & spirituality
    #395878 - 09/16/01 03:04 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

i'm sorry if there's already a topic like this somewhere else.. i didnt see any posts about tripping alone and trying a sort of spiritual trip for the first time.

i've tripped a few times now, over the past year. i was always with friends, and we just acted like idiots and laughed our asses off. i have really enjoyed those trips and i hope i will be tripping with friends for a long time but i really feel the urge to trip alone for a change. I feel very confident about this and i have waited for about 2 months since my last trip because i want to make sure i have all the stuff i need for a new experience.
Now i'm wondering if it would be a good idea to take the trip to a kind of spiritual level, if this is even possible because i'm not really a 'spiritual person'. All i can think of is burning incense and staring at a buddha sculpture.
I just want to avoid sitting in my chair all night watching the trippy posters and doing nothing else.
I would greatly appreciate any ideas for my next trip (by the way i'm thinking of eating 3 or 4 grams of dried cubensis, which got me to a great level 3 trip the last time).
i hope you guys can help me out here.. i cant wait to trip again!



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Re: tripping alone & spirituality [Re: Jeroen198]
    #395914 - 09/16/01 03:43 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

hmm, I had a fun solo experience in my room on a half-eighth, though there was nothing spiritual about it. i just had nice visuals and quite a mindfuck (I thought the police were outside my house the whole time, but it didn't interefere with my trip THAT much)

I have to say though, that trip alone was more fun than some group trips, but I had no spiritual breakthroughs or anything. i guess that comes on higher dose trips

sorry though, I don't know how to help you have a spiritual trip. maybe eat some mazatapec, or whatever they are called, shrooms.

It must be hard to trip if you anthropomorphize your shrooms.

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Re: tripping alone & spirituality [Re: Jeroen198]
    #396023 - 09/16/01 06:17 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

did ya ever read huxley's novel _island_ ? the kids tripped in the temple after their mountain climb...
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Re: tripping alone & spirituality [Re: gnrm23]
    #396031 - 09/16/01 06:22 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

For a solo trip, I definitely think you have to be in the right setting, like outside somewhere. It just seems right.



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Re: tripping alone & spirituality [Re: Mighty Bop]
    #396095 - 09/16/01 07:24 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

you know I never thought of trippin solo outside ... ur right it does seem like a great idea. personally i'd bring a cd player and a small cd case full of a variety of cds for whatever mood im in, because i don't really care for the spiritual aspect of trippin

It must be hard to trip if you anthropomorphize your shrooms.

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Re: tripping alone & spirituality [Re: HB]
    #396314 - 09/16/01 11:44 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

definetly got to be outside for a good trip by yourself... Ever been to the beach? sometimes it feels as if the swells of the ocean is like the breathing of the earth and everything just seems right in the world.. thats about as spiritual as I can get...

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Re: tripping alone & spirituality [Re: GabbaDj]
    #396320 - 09/16/01 11:55 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

i don't really know about the beach ... it doesn't excite me very much and tends to depress me until it is dark out at the beach -- don't ask me why, it is just that everything in my life has a theme, and the beach just doesn't seem to agree with me. a forest, ranch or desert are my ideal places for tripping, though forests have a very dark, menacing feel to them that I probably could not handle too well alone. My ranch is GREAT but again would be too scary to trip at (at nighttime). Actually, any of the above would be scary to trip at at nighttime. But one day I would like to trip alone somewhere in nature, during the day.

If I tripped alone at night in nature, I'd probably scare myself to death (literally) because I have an extremely over-active imagination (just look at my artwork) which only goes away when I am with company. But when I am alone my mind tends to think it is loads of fun for me to have a major freak-out.

i just lost my train of thought, oh well

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Re: tripping alone & spirituality [Re: Jeroen198]
    #396327 - 09/17/01 12:01 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

I know what you mean, whenever I trip with friends its all fun and nothing else. When I trip alone it usually turns out spiritual (with one exception where I thought there were aliens landing on my roof). I think dosage is the key to a spiritual trip when your alone and not a very spiritual person. The higher the dose, the easier it is to let go. If you are tripping outside, don't take a very high dose, you could end up hurting yourself. If your gonna do it outside go to a place you know pretty well and a place that you feel calm, and peaceful. There is no physical thing you can do (incence, crosses, robes, churches) to force a spiritual trip. Its all in the way you feel before and during the trip.

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Re: tripping alone & spirituality [Re: Jeroen198]
    #396359 - 09/17/01 12:57 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

i always usually have spritual trips or motivational trips.
The key is to start thinking about your life, where it is, where it has been, where you can take it through the use of the substance. When you do this it feels like the floodgates of the mind have opened and knowledge rushes in. This is the greatest most beautiful thing that will ever happen during a trip, in my eyes. Also think about God, the Great Spirit, the Creater and the universe, how we got here and why. These are all great things to just sit in the dark around a lava lamp with 2 or 3 friends and talk about. But it works alone too. It is just better with others b/c wether you feel the way they do about something or not, you can see through their eyes and understand. All this talking usually takes place right after the peak of an acid trip, but can happen at any time. As for shrooms you are laid back enough to do it from the beginning.
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Re: tripping alone & spirituality [Re: Jeroen198]
    #396424 - 09/17/01 03:25 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

thanks a lot guys.. i suppose its definetely true that u shouldnt force a trip to be spiritual or anything because that could seriously turn out way different. i'll just be patient and see whatever happens..
though it might be a problem to go outside cause it's never really quiet where i live. i hate to walk outside and encounter other ppl because i always think i look strange and cant walk as usual. so i might just take 10 minute walk just after i ate the shrooms, then go home, take a shower and then i dont know what i'll do yet. But at least thanks to you all, i know i really should try tripping alone once, spiritual or not.
I tend to be lazy when tripping so i wont write a report at the time but if i remember anything i'll post it.
thanks again



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Re: tripping alone & spirituality [Re: Jeroen198]
    #396639 - 09/17/01 12:20 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Ever try medatation? Im not a very spiritual guy, but for some reason that opened my mind (at least while I was tripping) and I was able to have a very spiritual trip, Also try it in someplace you like...Although that might be hard to do if you like a field or something cause then people would wonder what the hell you are doing meditating in the middle of a field. I dunno, just a suggestion.

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Re: tripping alone & spirituality [Re: Jeroen198]
    #396753 - 09/17/01 02:19 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

I would try dancing drumming chanting and meditating. These things alone can lead to great trips without the drugs and can open up places in your mind you rarely go. You just may find a spiritual part of yourself that has been hidden. I know when I dance to a really strong beat for a few hours I completely lose my body in the rythmn freeing up my mind to travel. Also it can help you be tired enough to sleep well when you come down.

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Re: tripping alone & spirituality [Re: heathadelic]
    #397232 - 09/17/01 11:29 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

I find it odd that so many people have mentioned how they are not a "spiritual person." Everyone here that takes psych. mushrooms is dealing with an extreme spiritual force. All you have to do is take enough, I have never seen anyone come out of a 6-7 gram trip that didn't say it wasn't the most spiritual thing that has ever happend to them (and I was baptised!). Trust me, these things are spirtual and you haven't felt anything unless you've done them to a spiritual point (anywhere from 6-10 grams, depending on the person). It may feel spiritual seeing patterns on a 2 gram trip, but you really have no idea, and it's stupid of me to try to explain it. Keep searching!

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Re: tripping alone & spirituality [Re: Grimace]
    #397240 - 09/17/01 11:40 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

my full eighth cyanescens trip was in a way spiritual, but not fully. unlike my friend who, the first time he shroomed, became a vegan up until this day after a spiritual revelation, I had revelations that were somewhat true.

after the trip was coming down (you know how all the hell went) my friend and I just started talking endlessly about shit. we talked about how jimi hendrix really wasn't that happy and most likely did the acid and everything for public image and such towards the end of his life (though im sure in the beginning he was having a great time). we talked about how shrooming felt so, like FINAL, and that we were kind of glad to be done with it. like we learned what we need to know and the shrooms told us we were done (hence the bad trip) ... etc etc and all these other "revelations." unfortunately, these revelations did not last and then both of us joined the shrooms again, and now the trips are pure ecstacy. so i guess the revelations were somewhat temporary, if that makes sense

It must be hard to trip if you anthropomorphize your shrooms.

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Re: tripping alone & spirituality [Re: HB]
    #397245 - 09/17/01 11:57 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

I have the feeling that not many know what anthropomorphize means. It's been mentioned many times but I fail to realize why nno one has used it in their own words. Big words were are not a sign of.........well, forget it!

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Re: tripping alone & spirituality [Re: Grimace]
    #397255 - 09/18/01 12:13 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

for those not in the know, anthropomorphize means: to give human attributes or characteristics to something that is not human

i'm guessing some people here must read Calvin and Hobbes

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Re: tripping alone & spirituality [Re: Grimace]
    #397383 - 09/18/01 06:30 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

i agree grimace, shrooms have been such a key for me (and i think many others) that given the right conditions and open mind, some mind expanding stuff is very probable- and that has very spiritual implications.
i smiled when i read that someone became a vegan after eating shrooms. shrooms also reafirmed my understanding of being a vegetarian. think about this the next time you trip- would you want some to kill you? how SCARY/TERRYFYING would it be to be killed! so then why should we, as animals, do that to other animals (conscious beings)...we are able to survive without killing (or causing to kill) so then why should you kill. just cause they don't speak english doesn't mean they don't experience life...
anyway, there's SOO much out there to understand better, but even more so, there's so much within you to discover..just set up the enviornment to open up those doors.
i admit, i feel i am a bit of a spiritual/philisophical person by nature, but i think we all are- if we can only find how to discover it within us.
and i'm happy to see people interested in doing it, cause let me tell you, there's nothing more uplifting, enlightening then those kinds of experiences.
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Re: tripping alone & spirituality [Re: Jeroen198]
    #397405 - 09/18/01 07:58 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Beaches dont agree with me either if they are full of people sunbathing etc. But deserted never seen before beaches are cool.
I'd love to trip in a place like that, in greece possibly....




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Re: tripping alone & spirituality [Re: hudsonismss]
    #397455 - 09/18/01 11:41 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Stop preaching that garbage.



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Re: tripping alone & spirituality [Re: dragoon]
    #397760 - 09/18/01 08:49 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

sorry you can't relate, doesn't mean you have to project negativity about it (by the way- i don't accept it)

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Re: tripping alone & spirituality [Re: hudsonismss]
    #397983 - 09/19/01 12:46 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

I'm sorry I said it that way, but I was only refering to the vegan part.



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Re: tripping alone & spirituality [Re: Jeroen198]
    #398005 - 09/19/01 01:59 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

dude, the traditional method for this is a little rough without a guide or shaman, but. . . .go into a compleatly quiet place that is very dark, like a room with few or no windows or a cave. next, you need to take enough shrooms to get you to level 5. most people start to feel like they don't want anymore, around 3 grams dryweight. for you, this may vary. only you can decide what your highest recreational dose is. tripple that, and you have about where to start.

be advised that things can get very rough in there. i have done this, i don't recomend it without someone to help you when you need some redirection.

don't take anything with you that you think of as relating to spiritual stuff, the spiritual stuff is allready inside of you. taking such objects will only falsely redirect you to belief in stuff that is way off the mark. so no statues, pictures, incense, etc.

you go to the dark room with no sound so that you can meet the spiritual.

if you have tunes or pictures or anything associated with "fun" trips, they will direct your attention towards them, and you will miss everything else.

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Re: tripping alone & spirituality [Re: tchyted]
    #398009 - 09/19/01 02:07 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

jesus that would scare me shitless



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Re: tripping alone & spirituality [Re: Sir Tokes-A-Lot]
    #398272 - 09/19/01 03:32 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

i have about 1.5 - 2 dry grams left and i plan on tripping alone in my house. now what i wanna know is would watching a movie like alice in wonderland be a good idea. i wanna have as good of a trip as possible.. i dont no how spirtual i wanna get. but could someone give me any ideas of what i could do so i wont freak out . i never tripped alone before thanks



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Re: tripping alone & spirituality [Re: Rashiki]
    #400126 - 09/21/01 04:16 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Rashiki, you said everything I wanted to say. The first time I tripped, spirituality and pretty much any sort of focus on my own life and what it could mean, was not something I considered. I have grown to become quite spiritual, though not religious, and now every trip I have is a spiritual journey. Believe me, they are much, much better!
When you go into a trip mentally prepared, letting thoughts on the god and its possibility, yourself, and the universe all flow through your head, you will awaken in an amazing way. I can't tell you what you will see, but it will be what you are ready to see, and long after you have finished tripping, the mushrooms will be working their magic on you and making your world a better place.
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Re: tripping alone & spirituality [Re: Rin]
    #492120 - 12/15/01 03:43 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

ok well i finally got to trip all by myself this weekend and here's how it went:

http://www.shroomery.org/tripreports.php?action=view&level=2&KeyID=449



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Re: tripping alone & spirituality [Re: Jeroen198]
    #492122 - 12/15/01 03:53 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

ok why isnt this link clickable???


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Re: tripping alone & spirituality [Re: Jeroen198]
    #492315 - 12/15/01 09:47 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

I recently tripped on DXM and had the most spiritually fulfilling trip that I have ever had. This is a chemical that I had used several times with a close friend and had a great, but not very spiritual trip. Same goes for mushrooms. This was my first solo trip as well. During my peak, I began to meditate with some light music in the background and actually left my body. I felt myself rise up and through a portal that was a warm and inviting green color. Once through, I was surrounded by glowing figures that I could recognize as people, but they weren't in human form. They were speaking in a language that I could not understand, but I felt very welcome and comfortable. I also could feel the presence of my Grandmother who sadly passed away a few years ago. I was very close to her and have missed her very much since. I felt as if she was guiding me in this new and wonderful world. Shortly after this, I became distracted by something in the physical world and my consciousness was drawn back down into my body. This was only the peak of my experience. The entire trip was very introspective and much time was spent in meditation. I felt refreshed and renewed coming out of this experience. The afterglow has not subsided yet and it was over a week ago that I had this trip. DXM is not for everybody, but this is one experience that I will never forget.


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Re: tripping alone & spirituality [Re: Crete]
    #492396 - 12/15/01 11:34 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

I also had my most spiritual drug experience on DXM. People underestimate its spiritual aspect, but IMO its better in that respect than traditional psychedelics. It must have something to do with the dissociative, separation of mind and body thing. I left my body and existed for a short time in the spirit plane. It was incredible.

How much did you take? My experience was on 2nd plateau, I can't even imagine what higher plateaus would be like.


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Re: tripping alone & spirituality [Re: Rin]
    #492782 - 12/16/01 12:16 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Rin: The last time I tripped alone was by far the best shroom experience I have ever had. I ate a full 3.5 grams of some friendly gold caps. I locked myself in my room to avoid company. I turned off all music and outside stimuli, and I made the room as dark as I could manage (closed blinds...blanket over wall to stop peeking light, etc.). This became the most intense adventure ever. I never had any fear or disturbing experiences. I wandered around my room (sometimes wandering in itty-bitty circles for 30 minutes at a time) talking to myself and whatever else happened to be there. Tripping alone is my favorite way to fly...I only have a limited selection of friends (the great misanthropic advantage), so I'd rather be alone in my hermitage than try to help them find time away from their children, spouses, or both. Anyway...Alice in Wonderland is a good toy, but I consider it an LSD adventure more than a mushroom one. If one is going to trip alone (especially if only eating 2 grams) I recommend a quiet space to be alone with your thoughts. Otherwise, you are not really alone...:)


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Re: tripping alone & spirituality [Re: Jeroen198]
    #492809 - 12/16/01 12:49 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

i dont think involving spirtuality to a trip is a smart idea, for me i have found that not anyalizing your life when your high is a good thing, not thinking of god (you might find god when you didnt want to). i have found the best thing i can do on a trip be it acid or shrooms is find something colorful like a poster or fractals. if anything gets in your head like "your dying" or many other stupid things that can get in your head, just look at the colors and get lost and then when you come to and start thinking bumd shit again look bak at those colors. the fear doesnt ussually come on the frist trips it usually shows up after you have been doing the drugs for a while. over 700+ hits have come in contact with my tounge never mind the mushrooms that have gotten eaten and the fear gets me everytime but i still go back to it.

oh the colors, where am i?


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Re: tripping alone & spirituality [Re: delysid]
    #533786 - 01/28/02 10:23 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Any trip alone is spiritual. From a low dose of 1 gram, up to 3,5 or 5! Tripping alone at higher doses should be planned.
Someone to trust that knows what you're doing should be informed. I'm over 40,a veteran of the early 70's acid culture, ate 3 g's alone and almost lost it! Paranoia always creeps around. Keeping grounded is key. You have no oulet. Thank g-od my dog was with me. He saved my ass. I thought I would never come down. When my wife came home, it made me feel better, having someone to talk to. After 6 hours of a serious trip alone, company was what I needed the most.
Spiritual would be an understatement of what I went through. Not that it would stop me from doing it again


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Re: tripping alone & spirituality [Re: Bullfrog]
    #534242 - 01/28/02 06:29 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Very soon, I plan to induce a level 5 by myself alone in my room with nothing but my Qur'aan. My Qur'aan is a sort of security blanket while tripping extremely hard... there is something profound and comforting holding the word of God in my hand while I have the most soul/mind blowing experience ever. You never truely know yourself until you experience a level 5 by yourself.


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Re: tripping alone & spirituality [Re: Jeroen198]
    #534417 - 01/28/02 09:47 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Never try to force something during a trip... My last couple times I wanted to do some astral traveling, but I couldn't and it was fucking things up


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Re: tripping alone & spirituality [Re: SherlockDrubu]
    #534497 - 01/28/02 11:33 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

It's best to just eat the mushrooms/LSD and see what comes of it, to just let everything flow.


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Re: tripping alone & spirituality [Re: Jeroen198]
    #6122335 - 10/01/06 09:04 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

eat shrooms, go outside somehwre that suits you, and do whatever you want. being near a river helps. with somehwre comfortable to rest like sand. bring some shroomy clothes so u can feel native. and be an animal. it makes u feel like a jungle man its awesome.


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