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Casing Chamber. Opinions.
    #3957811 - 03/23/05 04:19 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

I have two small casing's, two 1/2 pints B+ each, that are waiting to go in a Martha. I decided to throw this together as a post-incubating, pre-fruiting chamber. You know, high humidity until pins form.

Put a little perlite in the bottom and ran two air lines into some hydrogen peroxide and water, 10-1. Humidity has been staying at 98% and Temperature at 76 degrees. Was worried about gas exchange as I am trying to totally automate this. Was going to go with a poly-fil plugged hole, but I got to thinking about all that CO2 backing up behind the hole. Decided to cut a 1/4" wide by 10" slot towards the bottom and cover with Tyvek. Thought all that fresh O2 would just gluide that CO2 right on out.

What do you Guy's think? Any input will be greatly appreciated. I may remount the one water bottle across from the other, opposite the Tyvek vent. Get a good steady flow of O2 to push out the CO2. Thanks.
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Re: Casing Chamber. Opinions. [Re: HippieChick]
    #3957839 - 03/23/05 04:28 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Looks good :thumbup:

I like having a separate pinning chamber and fruiting chamber.


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Re: Casing Chamber. Opinions. [Re: MrMaddHatter]
    #3957965 - 03/23/05 06:16 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Sounds like a ghetto PmP :smirk:

Sounds good, cept that 98% humidity might cause overlay for your casings...Might want to try to lower it..Some airstones w/ an airpump will help pump air in there (fresh o2) but it'll up your humidity too much, perlite does that w/ airstones typically..Good luck tho :thumbup:

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Re: Casing Chamber. Opinions. [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #3957970 - 03/23/05 06:20 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Thought you wanted high humidity till pins form?
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Re: Casing Chamber. Opinions. [Re: HippieChick]
    #3958006 - 03/23/05 07:19 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Looks fine Hippy, and if you birth your casings at the right time overlay will not be a big issue.
Mushrooms are not THAT craving they are very eager to grow. I have casings in my PMP, with great results.

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Re: Casing Chamber. Opinions. [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3958864 - 03/23/05 01:04 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks MF. What I'm really curious about is the Tyvek vent. If the Tyvek allows decent gas exchange, I have heard so many different opinions, I would think a narrow vent would work better than holes. Anybody know of a way to actually measure CO2 build-up?
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Re: Casing Chamber. Opinions. [Re: HippieChick]
    #3958888 - 03/23/05 01:09 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

I am doing the almost the same thing right now. I am using a small holed grate, stuffing each hole with polyfil, and going to attach that to the PMP that I will be casing in.

I am a little worried about getting the humidity down to around 80-90 for casing, so i am hoping this with my two bubble wands and a fan blowing will give it enough air movement as well as keep the humidity down.

I will post pics when its actually done.


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Re: Casing Chamber. Opinions. [Re: HippieChick]
    #3958906 - 03/23/05 01:13 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

I just found this on the net - don't know how accurate it is. It came from this page: http://www.woodrow.org/teachers/esi/1998/p/humansources/testingCO2.htm

Detecting CO2 Using Limewater
Materials:

limewater (Ca(OH)2)
2 or more containers (one with a lid)
straw or tubing
air pump
Procedures:

Decant an appropriate amount of limewater into another container.
Slowly bubble gas(es) through the limewater using a straw, tubing, or an air pump.
Observe the results. If there is CO2 in the gas(es), the limewater will turn cloudy.


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Re: Casing Chamber. Opinions. [Re: Photoguy]
    #3958909 - 03/23/05 01:14 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Let me know how your's works, maybe some pictures. If I decided to fruit these in this chamber I would probably just remove the perlite and go with the two bubble stones. But, this is just for pinning.
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Re: Casing Chamber. Opinions. [Re: HippieChick]
    #3958956 - 03/23/05 01:26 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Tyvek is good for gas exchange, which is the release of excess built up gases. Its not good for fresh air exchange though. Polyfil will allow for air to pour out rediculously better then tyvek. Hold a peice over your nose and mouth and try and blow through it and see how well you can release and get back in fresh air.

I dont recommend doing so, but if you stuffed your moth full of polyfil, I'd bet you could breathe easier :smile:


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Re: Casing Chamber. Opinions. [Re: HippieChick]
    #3958962 - 03/23/05 01:27 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Looks like a nice setup as you have it. i like that your co2 vent is on the botton. i've seen pods that have the holes on the top of the lids and i don't think co2 is going to pressurize to the point where it's going to just push out the top so my hat's off to ya. :slider:


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Re: Casing Chamber. Opinions. [Re: thenewguy05]
    #3958984 - 03/23/05 01:34 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

HippieChick: On those containers you are using with submerged airtones, try to open those up if you can. Or use a widemouth pint jar. Much more effective if the actual opening of the container that your airstones sit in is as wide as possible; more air exchange + humidity.

The great thing about casings is that you don't need external humidification or any elaborate setup. Throw them in a bin w/ some PolyFill and mist once or twice a day. Fan a few times per day also.



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Re: Casing Chamber. Opinions. [Re: ShroomGuy86]
    #3959037 - 03/23/05 01:44 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

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What is up with that polyfil and holes in the side?




Hmmm>? :confused:  Extra air exchange in the chamber, that's all.


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Re: Casing Chamber. Opinions. [Re: HippieChick]
    #3959310 - 03/23/05 02:25 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

There are instruments you can measure co2 level with. But why would you go that fancy?

Ehm, my native language isnt english, whats the difference between a vent and a hole?

If you have air pumping in, (have you?) it doesnt matter much how you cover those holes. Cause pressure in the chamber is higher then outside chamber, so no contams can flow in from outside, the opposite.

You could then filter the air pumping in, over polyfill.

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Re: Casing Chamber. Opinions. [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3959342 - 03/23/05 02:29 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

The idea behind the vent is to have a way for the CO2 to flow out of the chamber easier. With a couple holes you might still get trapped pockets of CO2. With the vent at the bottom, I was hoping to let the heavier CO2 just flow out.
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Re: Casing Chamber. Opinions. [Re: HippieChick]
    #3960059 - 03/23/05 04:38 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah a vent/hole near the bottom will be good. Also if you have casings, the casing layer is a few inches above the bottom of the chamber. I think that is good.


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Re: Casing Chamber. Opinions. [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3960141 - 03/23/05 04:56 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks Scat. That's what I thought. Think I might replace the Tyvek with some poly-fil and breathable tape.
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Re: Casing Chamber. Opinions. [Re: Holydiver]
    #3960179 - 03/23/05 05:03 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Diver, thanks for the input. I know you don't need elaborate set-ups, but I trying for total automation. This is just a start. When I work out the bugs I might go for a totally enclosed casing chamber. You know, like a RONCO deal, just set it and forget it, lol. Thanks for your input, always appreciated.
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