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OfflineAgliarondian
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    #395325 - 09/15/01 05:48 PM (22 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: To those who are trying to buy a US flag [Re: Agliarondian]
    #395351 - 09/15/01 06:12 PM (22 years, 2 months ago)

You ever thought that maybe some are students, people that are part of a family? They go home, and their Parents have the flag....Jeesus, why are you pissed at them.

I'm Icelandic, my family owns one flag, and its here in my apartment, so that means the entire family is without a flag. Does that mean my family isn't patriotic, NO, its just a symbol.

Patriotism is in your heart, a flag doesn't make you care anymore than others...

This is one of the dumbest posts I've read, your a real moron.

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Re: To those who are trying to buy a US flag [Re: Agliarondian]
    #395407 - 09/15/01 07:31 PM (22 years, 2 months ago)

I think you can be patriotic w/o a flag. I have one but many people show their patriotism in the voting booth where i show mine with my flag, which is up 365 days a year.......until my wife puts up that dorky halloween flag that her mom bought her...AAARRRGGGHHH...

Hey thor who's the chick in the picture?

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Re: To those who are trying to buy a US flag [Re: Agliarondian]
    #395416 - 09/15/01 07:44 PM (22 years, 2 months ago)

Chill out Aggie. I don't have a flag myself either, although I did just download an awesome stationary file for my e-mail. The Statue of Liberty and the flag. I want to tell some people FUCK YOU too, so here goes:









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Re: To those who are trying to buy a US flag *DELETED* [Re: Agliarondian]
    #395440 - 09/15/01 08:18 PM (22 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: To those who are trying to buy a US flag [Re: Agliarondian]
    #395515 - 09/15/01 11:09 PM (22 years, 2 months ago)


>You ever thought that maybe some are students, people >that are part of a family? They go home, and their Parents >have the flag....Jeesus, why are you pissed at them.

This is not the majority of cases in the U.S.. Flag flying is a dying trend. That is why sales jumped. Of course there are exceptional neighborhoods that do fly flags on a daily basis. But before Tuesday, almost anywhere in the US very few flags were up. The parents don't have flags, that the college kids come home to. The only places you regularly see flags is in government buildings. You don't need a flag to show your patriotism, but it is traditional and I think it is a good way to show that you love your country at any time, not just when times are tough.




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Re: To those who are trying to buy a US flag [Re: makedrugsfree]
    #395614 - 09/16/01 04:17 AM (22 years, 2 months ago)

There is such a thing as too much patriotism, I think it can also be too much if everyone is waving flags all the time. I mean for special holidays and special occasions sure.

But to wave flags just because. Look at all the dictator regimes, they all had an extreme amount of patriotism and especially flag waving.... You don't want to get near that crazyness...

We are all afterall humans first, and to make a country such a priority above all else means you care about a thing more than you do your fellow man. Just something to think about.

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Re: To those who are trying to buy a US flag [Re: Thor]
    #395643 - 09/16/01 05:47 AM (22 years, 2 months ago)

Displaying a flag is showing too much patriotism? It has been a tradition in the U.S. for years. I'm not talking about eating off of disposible flag plates, and wearing a flag tie. I'm talking of putting up the symbol of your country. It is not much really. And in the U.S. it has been on such a decline that most people don?t know any traditional flag etiquette either. Most of the new flags bought and displayed this week that I saw were flown at normal height, even though the president has ordered flags at half staff in mourning.

Regarding dictator regimes: We have had many dictator regimes in history, and their are many reasons why these evils gained power. Some of the attributes a country needs for power are always the same, whether the country is good or evil. The U.S. is a very powerful country and it got there with patriotism. I think any ?good? country is one where the people love it.

We are all humans first, and maybe we need a world flag. But still I?ve visited several other countries that I would not like to live in and I will show that I love my country. I will bitch and moan about the government, talk of how our president should be impeached, and dwell on all the problems. But I will still fly that flag in front of my house everyday to show how grateful I am.



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Re: To those who are trying to buy a US flag [Re: Agliarondian]
    #395651 - 09/16/01 06:16 AM (22 years, 2 months ago)

sorry,
fuck flacks

I never owned a flack, I hate flacks..only because america has been alacked, that doesn't make nationalism better and all that god bless makes me sick.it is the same as that Allah Akbar or what evcer crab..
fuck states, fuck flacks, fuck organized religion fuck that old books

my two cents ;)




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Re: To those who are trying to buy a US flag [Re: Thor]
    #395910 - 09/16/01 02:37 PM (22 years, 2 months ago)

I agree, we dont really need everyone waveing a flag. It's safe to say that we all (well most of us) are Americans and were very sorowed and pissed about this attack. It reminds me of our local jocks when there favorite team wins a major game. For about two weeks all I see is the team's flag wavey from there cars.... us "non jocks" just cant grasp what they are doing.

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Re: To those who are trying to buy a US flag *DELETED* [Re: makedrugsfree]
    #395993 - 09/16/01 04:39 PM (22 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: To those who are trying to buy a US flag [Re: Agliarondian]
    #396304 - 09/16/01 10:33 PM (22 years, 2 months ago)

You said a lot and some of it I agree with and some I don't. But I have too short an attention span to reply to much of it. So, from the general feeling I got from what you said, I think you should move from San Diego to a third world country, not up north. Send your computer to their government, personal belongings, and lend your infinite knowlege to helping others.

Don't take this as just an easy way out of responding to you, it is an easy way out, but I really think you should move too.



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Re: To those who are trying to buy a US flag [Re: Prellgott]
    #396482 - 09/17/01 06:06 AM (22 years, 2 months ago)

what's a "flack"

Relax, Relax, Relax.....it's just a little pin prick * there'll be no more AARRGGHHH!!!! but you may feel a little sick.....


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Re: To those who are trying to buy a US flag [Re: Innvertigo]
    #397411 - 09/18/01 07:18 AM (22 years, 2 months ago)

:).....huh huh..a flack is a gun used to shot planes ;) (don't know if in english too, but in germany)
a flack can also be used to shoot at flags..
in germany we say dicht"flacken" for tripping..

I should watch more carefully before I fuck something ;)

In germany it is very uncommon to have a flag, I don't like flags..maybe that is due to our history, but I think americans go to far with their patriotism now, of course I don't blame you for these acts of war and terrorism but I still think you Americans should be aware of the historical background of theese attacks and also the USA role in all that. you aren't that innocent..
That attack hasn't erased the mistakes that your government made and it hasn't made the politicans better persons or erased the mistakes made in the past..don't forget Osama Bin Laden is a child of the CIA..
so watch out carefully, while I carefully try not to fuck any firing flacks ;)



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Re: To those who are trying to buy a US flag [Re: Agliarondian]
    #397422 - 09/18/01 08:45 AM (22 years, 2 months ago)

You're a stupid bastard. Did your parents have any kids that lived?



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Re: To those who are trying to buy a US flag [Re: Prellgott]
    #397428 - 09/18/01 08:53 AM (22 years, 2 months ago)

just so ya know, flack is the projectiles from a weapon ie metal flack from a handgranade, bomb, and anti aircraft fire...the gun that shoots planes is called and antiaircraft weapon.....i was being sarcastic

Relax, Relax, Relax.....it's just a little pin prick * there'll be no more AARRGGHHH!!!! but you may feel a little sick.....


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Re: To those who are trying to buy a US flag *DELETED* [Re: puscle]
    #397585 - 09/18/01 03:51 PM (22 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: To those who are trying to buy a US flag [Re: Agliarondian]
    #397596 - 09/18/01 04:16 PM (22 years, 2 months ago)

honestly i knwo this will get lost of flames
but wtf woudl somone be proud of this country
every day shit gets bombed in the middle east
but once here and everyone cry
but they dont givva fuk bout the middle east gettin bombed
jsut my 2 cents

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Re: To those who are trying to buy a US flag [Re: tenzor]
    #397651 - 09/18/01 05:50 PM (22 years, 2 months ago)

i'm worried more about your spelling then your post..sheesh

i don't give a shit about the middle east if you want my honest opinion

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Re: To those who are trying to buy a US flag [Re: Innvertigo]
    #397751 - 09/18/01 07:42 PM (22 years, 2 months ago)

Heh, heh... I will take this opportunity to agree with Innvertigo 100%.



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Re: To those who are trying to buy a US flag [Re: Innvertigo]
    #397818 - 09/18/01 08:55 PM (22 years, 2 months ago)

so... people from the middle east dont have rights like everyone else, or dont deserve to be mourned?

I for one am quite sad about the racism going around america since the attacks, just because the people who supposedly did it were muslims doesnt mean all muslims are evil assholes. and why is it that no one is worried by the potential of another vietnam? when i really started thinking about it, Afghanistan has many battle hardened soldiers and some very fanatical people... they can kill alot of americans through guerilla warfare.



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Re: To those who are trying to buy a US flag [Re: MrKurtz]
    #398041 - 09/19/01 06:09 AM (22 years, 2 months ago)

****so... people from the middle east dont have rights like everyone else, or dont deserve to be mourned****

No i said i don't give a shit about them. it's really quite simple. I'm leaning towards a isolationist United States.

****why is it that no one is worried by the potential of another vietnam? ****

Things have changed since vietnam...get out of the 60's

****Afghanistan has many battle hardened soldiers and some very fanatical people****

no shit......and we have about a million pissed off service members

****they can kill alot of americans through guerilla warfare****

who do you think invented guerilla warfare? I'm not impressed or intimidated by them.

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Re: To those who are trying to buy a US flag [Re: Agliarondian]
    #398042 - 09/19/01 06:10 AM (22 years, 2 months ago)

A lot of people don't know how to properly display the U.S. flag in this type of situation. These are the guidlines:

Display of the Flag at Half-Staff



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Re: To those who are trying to buy a US flag [Re: Agliarondian]
    #398396 - 09/19/01 05:16 PM (22 years, 2 months ago)

Very good, Aglia! Unlike others, at least you've an opinion, and some care for what has befallen this Great Society.

Edited by puscle on 09/19/01 06:17 PM.



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Re: To those who are trying to buy a US flag [Re: Innvertigo]
    #398470 - 09/19/01 07:24 PM (22 years, 2 months ago)


"Things have changed since vietnam...get out of the 60's"

well, things always change, but afghanistan is a brutal country to fight against.

"no shit......and we have about a million pissed off service members"

im sure they are no where near as fanatical as the afghans.

"who do you think invented guerilla warfare? I'm not impressed or intimidated by them."

like you said, stop living in the past, this isnt the 60s, and it definately isnt the 18th century.

i was just saying, america is always a cocky country, and it usually takes a few thousand dead young men to humble them. hell, maybe it will be another persian gulf war, in that case it would be all for the best. but it could also be another vietnam.

"No i said i don't give a shit about them. it's really quite simple. I'm leaning towards a isolationist United States."

hmm, i hope you know isolating ourselves isnt gonna help america out. if it wasnt for every other country being forced to buy our crap, we would never be as strong as we are now. diversity and selling to foreign markets made america, and it will keep it strong.



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Re: To those who are trying to buy a US flag [Re: MrKurtz]
    #398502 - 09/19/01 07:55 PM (22 years, 2 months ago)

***afghanistan is a brutal country to fight against***

so is the United States

***i was just saying, america is always a cocky country***

It's not cocky or bragging if you can do it.

***but it could also be another vietnam***

They said the same thing about the Gulf war..hmmm..and the Iraq's where supposedly "battle hardened"

***hmm, i hope you know isolating ourselves isnt gonna help america out***

I meant socially. I would restrict my involvement in other countries to pure capitalism...not social situations.



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Re: To those who are trying to buy a US flag [Re: Innvertigo]
    #398530 - 09/19/01 08:24 PM (22 years, 2 months ago)

"***afghanistan is a brutal country to fight against***

so is the United States"

but, for different reasons altogether. America is a real military force because its rich as hell. Afghanistan has a history of being a country with vicious soldiers. America, on the other hand, has a history of green soldiers who have lots of really nice things that helps them win.

"It's not cocky or bragging if you can do it."

but, its been proven before that they were cocky when they shouldn't have been (of course in contrast to the last few wars america has a reason to be cocky).

"***but it could also be another vietnam***

They said the same thing about the Gulf war..hmmm..and the Iraq's where supposedly "battle hardened" "

em, if your gonna quote me, could you at least include the full quote and not take it out of conext? i said it could very likely be another persian gulf, but theres always a chance of another military fuckup.




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