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OfflineHrethic
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Morning Glory + MAOI
    #3951194 - 03/21/05 11:35 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Hey guys! Haven't posted on here in a while. I was just wondering if you could help me with something that i've been searching for.  I've recently tried Morning Glories and they're pretty darn cool. I did about 400 in a cold water extraction. Mild nausea, nothing i couldn't handle though. But anyway, i was wondering if you guys know if i can use an MAOI, namely Syrian Rue to boost the effect. The only thing i could find on Erowid about it was one experience of a  good turned bad turned good trip and a general warning against taking the two, not elaborating any further. The shroomery has always been a great source for information, but i've been searching around on here too and haven't found anything. Can any one point me in the direction of a site or book, or better yet a personal account? Those are always more detailed in what's important anyway.
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Re: Morning Glory + MAOI [Re: Hrethic]
    #3951468 - 03/22/05 12:08 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Well this is taken from Erowid under MAOI's
"MAOIs in Combination with Psychedelics
Generally increase the effects of the psychedelic significantly. Be extremely careful."

I know most MAOI's are not fast acting though so you probably have to be on it for atleast a week for them to interact with LSA.
There is no negative reaction with MAOI's physically speaking unless taken with other SSRI's or stimualnts. LSA isnt that popular so I dont think your gonna get very many irst hand accounts---especially with the mixture of the 2. But according to Erowid, it will increase the affects. The warning is probably pertaining to the possibility you will trip harder.


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Re: Morning Glory + MAOI [Re: PsillyNilly]
    #3951525 - 03/22/05 12:20 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Of all the psychedelics, morning glories are probably one of the worst candidates to combine with an MAOI. MG tend to make people sick...not only because LSA can cause nausea, but MGs are so not-potent that you're eating a lot of other crap per lsa molecule.

But MAOI's give some people a body load and stomach discomfort as well. The combination of the two could be painful. Or it might not be a big deal. You should probably try Rue on its own once or twice before you attempt a combination..see how you take it. SR is reasonably psychoactive by its self..so a testing period will be fun too.

I think I tried the combo with HBWRS (LSA) a while ago and didn't notice an big change. Although Rue proved powerful..to say the least..in every other combination attempt I made.


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Re: Morning Glory + MAOI [Re: rdnp2035]
    #3951833 - 03/22/05 01:22 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Ingesting the plain HBWR morning Glory's and extracting the LSA are 2 differnt experience I hear. Ive never done niether but if I were to ever experiment, Id definately do the simple vodka extraction to avoid the nausea and such. Same idea as in San Pedro>mescaline...I guess.


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Re: Morning Glory + MAOI [Re: PsillyNilly]
    #3952102 - 03/22/05 02:50 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

You might get more replies in teh entheo garden man. Im sure someone in there has tried it. Peace

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Re: Morning Glory + MAOI [Re: blaze2]
    #3952341 - 03/22/05 05:31 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I tried it out once. I did it with extract of the lsa from 20 grams (weak seeds I think) and 3 grams of syrian rue. I had done 40 grams of seeds alone (extract). I didn't throw up but there was nausea present during the first two hours. Felt the same as lsa alone but not euphoric.

At some point I fell asleep and wake about 4 hours later. I feel absolutely terrible. I feel dehydrated, nauseated, and poisoned while I am still tripping every bit as hard as before. I begin breathing deeply and while feeling poisoned. Some how it passes in about 15 minutes and I am at a point where I can go back to sleep.

I sleep and wake up hung over. It feels worse and lasted longer than a strong dxm hangover. My brain feels like absolute mush. The syrian rue made it last much longer as well. Needless to say I don't suggest it. It was I believe to be my fourth worse trip ever (behind a 17 grams of syrian rue and two datura trips)


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Re: Morning Glory + MAOI [Re: lonebuddha]
    #3952350 - 03/22/05 05:42 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I tried morning glory extensively before starting to use mushrooms. I find mg and the little fellows don't go along well and cross-tolerance between the two grows fast as hell.

the best combination to make with mg is weed or hashish.

smoke the moment you ingest the mg: no nausea whatsoever!

keep smoking as the trip grows and you can get some great psychedelic moments. this is one of the most spiritual trips you can take.


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Re: Morning Glory + MAOI [Re: Hrethic]
    #3953232 - 03/22/05 01:46 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

SWIM tried this once, best trip ever. Unextracted MGs were used though, SWIM prefers the added stimulation. The trip was much different than MG or SR alone and was pretty much doing it's own thing. It was much more chill than MGs alone, but quite powerful. SWIM had a blast with this combo and learned alot. The effects could be poorly described as a subtle, yet powerful and profound euphoria. The trip felt shamanic in nature, it felt vaguely as if SWIM were dreaming or in a different dimension. SWIM was very happy during the entire trip and carried along with him this happiness for quite some time afterwards. Note that cannabis was smoked during the trip.

If one were to consume MGs unextracted, use only a fraction of what would be used for an extracted dose. The MGs are chewed to a paste and then swallowed with water. It's a noticeably different experience and quite a bit more taxing on the body.


Edited by Neon (03/22/05 01:47 PM)


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