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is this true
    #3948443 - 03/21/05 12:58 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

my friend and myself where on the phone last night and he said that if you keep reusing the same strain over and over again that the growth starts to slow down and they wont be as potent??? do you think this is true?????


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Re: is this true [Re: starptv23]
    #3948454 - 03/21/05 01:04 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

i once asked this myself. :wink:
the result was: if you use sporeprints and always select the healthy shrooms, this wont happen. it only happens if you keep cloning the mycelium on agar.


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Re: is this true [Re: Henry_Halleur]
    #3948459 - 03/21/05 01:06 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

well thats good to know...i try to always pick the healthy ones but you know sometimes there a duds that look good...nothing is perfect...


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"Six words: drop out, turn on, then come back and tune it in -and then drop out again, and turn on, and tune it back in-it's a rhythm- most of us think God made this universe in nature-subject object-predicate sentences-turn on, tune in, drop out- period, end of paragraph. Turn the page- it's all a rhythm- it's all a beat. You turn on, you find it inside, and then you have to come back (since you can't stay high all the time) and you have to build a better model. But don't get caught - don't get hooked - don't get attracted by the thing you're building, cause... you gotta drop out again. It's a cycle. Turn on, tune in, drop out. Keep it going, keep it going- the nervous system works that way. gotta keep it flowing- keep it flowing.


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Re: is this true [Re: starptv23]
    #3948493 - 03/21/05 01:14 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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my friend and myself where on the phone last night and he said that if you keep reusing the same strain over and over again that the growth starts to slow down and they wont be as potent??? do you think this is true?????




I have read if your doing grain to grain transfers they start to slow down at 40:1,  but I have also read they don't slow down until 100:1 in other books.  I belive I did read on the FAQ that they do loose potency/growth rates after a while.

Thats only if your doing direct transfers of living myc.

Now if your growing from spores or from cloned mushroom myc then there are no limits to how far you can go from there.

Personally I belive the strain I have been working with this half year has gotten stronger, and more used to the conditions of its location.  I have 8th and 9th gen jars in caseings now, my first good fruits came of  6th gen jars.  I have 1 jar that is 10th generation and it grow as fast and sometimes faster than my first sets...(I got carried away with grain2grain transfers  :heart:)  and knock my socks of in potency.  I belive how they are treated during each generation depends on how well they do in the next generation, or at least makes some difference, when useing live myc.

You could just take spores of one of your yeilds and start the ratio over anyways if need be.


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So, wash it well afterwards & DON'T tell them..."  -Agar


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Re: is this true [Re: Civ]
    #3948531 - 03/21/05 01:24 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Civ, what strain? if you don't mind me asking.

-Knob


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Re: is this true [Re: knobenheimer]
    #3948572 - 03/21/05 01:32 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

i use verm and brown rice...pf tek...but i make prints from my mushies that have been using for almost 7 months and 10 yields and not and nothing has seemed to change..but my friend says it will go bad after while witch i was disagreeing with him..so I guess I was right then..lol...thanx for the advise


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"Six words: drop out, turn on, then come back and tune it in -and then drop out again, and turn on, and tune it back in-it's a rhythm- most of us think God made this universe in nature-subject object-predicate sentences-turn on, tune in, drop out- period, end of paragraph. Turn the page- it's all a rhythm- it's all a beat. You turn on, you find it inside, and then you have to come back (since you can't stay high all the time) and you have to build a better model. But don't get caught - don't get hooked - don't get attracted by the thing you're building, cause... you gotta drop out again. It's a cycle. Turn on, tune in, drop out. Keep it going, keep it going- the nervous system works that way. gotta keep it flowing- keep it flowing.


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Re: is this true [Re: knobenheimer]
    #3948576 - 03/21/05 01:33 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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Civ, what strain? if you don't mind me asking.

-Knob



Oh np, they are B+.

These actually started out as a rescue project, they guys fruited from 6thgen g2g. straigt verm cased with verm/coir. Its sad after my agar transfer plate I had to fail 5 sets of jars to get to here. I kept messing up my caseings, or messing up my jars, but I always managed to save live myc and just make a new batch of jars. Now that I have some massive fruit size for this strain, I am gonna clone em and start over and start my cycle of jars again.

Once thing I have noticed about g2g is they want to knot up before they are even colonized, but still as potent.



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So, wash it well afterwards & DON'T tell them..."  -Agar


Edited by Civ (03/21/05 01:43 PM)


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Re: is this true [Re: Civ]
    #3948614 - 03/21/05 01:42 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

that is what i use b+ but with pf tek


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Re: is this true [Re: starptv23]
    #3948631 - 03/21/05 01:47 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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that is what i use b+ but with pf tek




PF tek is great, really rewarding to watch.

When you fruit/case those cakes, prep up some grains in qt jars and transfer some of the live myc into those. Try some Karo also and maybe even potatoe/dextrose agar and kept your stuff going.


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So, wash it well afterwards & DON'T tell them..."  -Agar


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