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Offlinecadam
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fist time mescaline use, could od wiht some pointers/advice
    #3948296 - 03/21/05 12:17 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Hi I have never tried mescaline before but i have had a Fair bit of experience with LSA and magic mushrooms, I have read a few reports on the internet etc etc but haven't really found what I am after, can somebody share with me some advice, a trip report, or how they consumed it? I have a small peyote cactus about 2.5cm tall and 4cm wide, would this be good enough for a nice trip???


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Re: fist time mescaline use, could od wiht some pointers/advice [Re: cadam]
    #3948813 - 03/21/05 02:28 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

one peyote plant will not have enough mescaline in it to do more than possibly give a rather subtle stimulated feeling...

www.mescaline.com
www.peyote.org
www.peyoteway.org
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Re: fist time mescaline use, could od wiht some pointers/advice [Re: gnrm23]
    #3949679 - 03/21/05 05:43 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

"one peyote plant will not have enough mescaline in it to do more than possibly give a rather subtle stimulated feeling..."

That statement is false and should be ignored by the world. People should not say things are absolute when they are not.

ONE PEYOTE PLANT???? That could be a tiny button the size of a penny or a huge "chief". And yet you speak of them as if they are one and the same. Shame on you.

Here's a quick guide - the indians eat about from 4-10 "quarter-sized" buttons. Sounds like you got a silver dollar. It may be enough to give you a little trip, but it will not take you into the spirit world.

I got one almost the size of a baseball waiting for a rainy day in the desert...


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Re: fist time mescaline use, could od wiht some pointers/advice [Re: Grizzy]
    #3950149 - 03/21/05 07:02 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I actually read in One River that when Schultes consumed peyote with the Oklahoma indians they would go through up to 40 dried buttons a night each.

There is no way in hell he will get any kind of experience from a plant that small. It's a well known fact that peyote is the worst cactii to use, simply because it takes so long to grow to a useable size and for that reason people generally have it for novelty purposes. Try the Trichocereus species if you want to eat mescaline.

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Re: fist time mescaline use, could od wiht some pointers/advice [Re: BorgFace]
    #3951750 - 03/22/05 01:07 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Peyote and San Pedro/Peruvian Torch give different trips, supposedly.


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Re: fist time mescaline use, could od wiht some pointers/advice [Re: PinballWizard]
    #3951840 - 03/22/05 01:23 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Still, in either case you're starting with a mescaline base.

It's like acid trips, the drug is the same but depending on concentrations and a number of other factors they can be markedly different.


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Re: fist time mescaline use, could od wiht some pointers/advice [Re: BorgFace]
    #3952291 - 03/22/05 04:30 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

confused!! What is a button??? The actual cactus?? This is baffling LOL, mushrooms are so simple!

So if i were to eat my cactus (2.5 cm tall and 4 cm wide) would it have any effect?? (i am after the sort of effect 20grams of wet copelandia cyascens would give me)

These cacti are ?20 so buying 8 of them doesn't seem like an option!! I got mine from www.redeyefrog.co.uk


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Re: fist time mescaline use, could od wiht some pointers/advice [Re: cadam]
    #3952296 - 03/22/05 04:35 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Hey maybe this will be abit easier for you guys, on the page

http://www.redeyefrog.co.uk/Cacti.html

what would i be best of buying for a mescaline trip, could the dried pedro be any good? remember i already have a peyote!

Regards and thanks in advance!


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Re: fist time mescaline use, could od wiht some pointers/advice [Re: cadam]
    #3952318 - 03/22/05 05:05 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Try mixing it up if you can. I'd try the button if you can save the root to re-propagate a new button, with about a foot of each Peruvian Torch and San Pedro. Maybe even double the feet. Or should I say feat... I'd be willin'


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Re: fist time mescaline use, could od wiht some pointers/advice [Re: Grizzy]
    #3952907 - 03/22/05 11:57 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

he said one plant 2.5 cm x 4 cm...
if it had been a clusterfuk of buttons growing from one big root maybe 25 cm across don't you think he would have said so?
sheesh, read the original post...

so, one "button" won't do much, mmmmmkay?


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Re: fist time mescaline use, could od wiht some pointers/advice [Re: gnrm23]
    #3954501 - 03/22/05 06:03 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

that website calls san pedro peruvian torch, which it aint!


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Re: fist time mescaline use, could od wiht some pointers/advice [Re: BorgFace]
    #3957070 - 03/23/05 12:43 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

they also mention that 40 buttons is a huge amount! tehy took far far more than most common doeses come close to. they also ate tehm over the course of an evening.

1 button probabyl wont do you too well. once you get enough or some pedro or the like just plan on having the next day free. if your in your house/building id have a bucket handy.


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Re: fist time mescaline use, could od wiht some pointers/advice [Re: kadakuda]
    #3957955 - 03/23/05 06:07 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

ok ok ok still confused LOL.

So for a trip similar to a level 2/3 mushroom trip, what would i need to eat? let pretend i have no cacti at all. What dose should I take and what do you people recommend and if you have a link to an online shop that sells what i need, that would be greatful!!

Also would my cacti do anything at all as one user said "so, one "button" won't do much, mmmmmkay? i take it your be sarcastic??

Thanks for helping a confused guy! LOL

Thanks for your help guys

oh and is a button simply one peyote cacti without the roots?


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Re: fist time mescaline use, could od wiht some pointers/advice [Re: cadam]
    #3958086 - 03/23/05 08:28 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: fist time mescaline use, could od wiht some pointers/advice [Re: gnrm23]
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Re: fist time mescaline use, could od wiht some pointers/advice [Re: gnrm23]
    #3958117 - 03/23/05 08:49 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

& no i was not being sarcastic...
sucking or chewing on one dried peyote button will not induce an hallucinogenic state, but often will lift your senses, lessen your appetite, and give an interesting feeling of buoyancy...
the term "button" usually refers to the above-ground portion of this "pincushion" cactus; if the harvesting is done carefully, the below-ground taproot will recover & eventually grow a new "crown" - & if the root is large enough, it may produce a small cluster of individual tops sharing a common root...

okay?

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Re: fist time mescaline use, could od wiht some pointers/advice [Re: gnrm23]
    #3965741 - 03/24/05 06:45 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

"so, one "button" won't do much, mmmmmkay?"
Don't play games with me. Changing "plant" to "button" makes no difference - button is implied when you refer to peyote.

You clearly stated the following(look up, it's in print) ->"one peyote plant will not have enough mescaline in it to do more than possibly give a rather subtle stimulated feeling..."

That is totally wrong, and you can dress it up and dance around it all day and the fact remains that you made a generalization clearly stating that ONE PLANT WILL NOT do the trick. Like I said, I got one almost as big as a baseball, and this ONE PLANT/BUTTON would knock your socks off, no doubt.

Now read the sentece below, posted by another - that is true and accurate and DIFFERENT from yours.

"There is no way in hell he will get any kind of experience from a plant that small" <- Now THAT is a correct statement....mmmkay?


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Re: fist time mescaline use, could od wiht some pointers/advice [Re: Grizzy]
    #3966050 - 03/24/05 08:04 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

He did clarify himself by pointing out the 2.5 cm x 4 cm size of the button.  A button of that size will most likely not make/let a person experience a true peyote experience.  Maybe he was a little too general in his first post, but there is no reason to loose your cool.  Next time, just try not to be so aggressive about it, there is no reason to get upset over an internet post :sun:


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Re: fist time mescaline use, could od wiht some pointers/advice [Re: theocean06]
    #3967014 - 03/25/05 12:29 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I'm sorry, theocean06.  You're absolutely right.  Must keep it in perspective.  Sometimes I loose my way.  Thanks for helping my find my way back.

Sorry to gnrm23 for being overly aggressive there.  Friends?  :smile:

Oh, and YES to Cadam:  A "button" is the green portion above the root.


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Re: fist time mescaline use, could od wiht some pointers/advice [Re: Grizzy]
    #3983862 - 03/29/05 04:00 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

ta guys!! i ate the thing anyways, tasted YUKKY!! Ended up just cutting it up and swallowing little peiece at a tiem with water! I could tell I had taken it, there were no major effects though, i just felt more relaxed and calmer. I did go out with mates though and drink beer and cider! LOL. I think it's too exspensive to tip on peyote or even the other cacti. I can tip on ?15 with mushrooms!

www.magicplants.co.uk <----These guys do copelandia at great prices!

Thanks for you help guys!


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