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Very quick, dumb question: how important is rinsing the grain after soaking?
    #3938166 - 03/19/05 01:05 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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Soaked for 20 hours
PC'd for 90 minutes
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The kitten forgot to rinse the grains off this time after soaking.  How will this effect mycelium growth?  It doesn't matter that much, does it?  :tongue:


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Re: Very quick, dumb question: how important is rinsing the grain after soaking? [Re: MOTH]
    #3938205 - 03/19/05 01:19 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

it wont, you pc'ed way too long. 60 mins is a max


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Re: Very quick, dumb question: how important is rinsing the grain after soaking? [Re: tahoe]
    #3938214 - 03/19/05 01:23 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

I disagree. I often PC at 90 minutes with good results.


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Re: Very quick, dumb question: how important is rinsing the grain after soaking? [Re: tahoe]
    #3938228 - 03/19/05 01:26 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

nah i pc that long before first attempt, but that was with BF not WBS.  but to answer ur question Im guessing its pretty important cause theres a ton of waxy/greasy shit left on the seeds.  I hate WBS because of that smell i can't stand it. GL with that though :grin:


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Re: Very quick, dumb question: how important is rinsing the grain after soaking? [Re: MOTH]
    #3938277 - 03/19/05 01:43 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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I disagree. I often PC at 90 minutes with good results.



disagree all you want, it is costing you time. Try 10 jars at 60 mins and 10 at 90 mins and check the results. Wasteing valuable time


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Re: Very quick, dumb question: how important is rinsing the grain after soaking? [Re: tahoe]
    #3938330 - 03/19/05 02:03 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

I agree 60 mins is ideal but u said "it wont, you pc'ed way too long. 60 mins is a max" and we are saying yes it will 60 mins is not a max. :grin:


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Re: Very quick, dumb question: how important is rinsing the grain after soaking? [Re: tahoe]
    #3938347 - 03/19/05 02:09 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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I disagree.  I often PC at 90 minutes with good results.



disagree all you want, it is costing you time. Try 10 jars at 60 mins and 10 at 90 mins and check the results. Wasteing valuable time




I guess I have time to burn.  :wink:

Thanks for the advice.  My friend and I are PCing some jars in a few moments and I'll try it for 60 min this time.


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Re: Very quick, dumb question: how important is rinsing the grain after soaking? [Re: GNIOM1498]
    #3938350 - 03/19/05 02:10 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

when i soke/ simmer the grain i never rinse becase i add calcium and yeast nutrent to the gain and simmer till all the water is gone like cooking rice and load in to jars easy


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Re: Very quick, dumb question: how important is rinsing the grain after soaking? [Re: tahoe]
    #3939050 - 03/19/05 09:08 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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it wont, you pc'ed way too long. 60 mins is a max




Theres no max. I fell asleep and PCed for over 6 hours the other day...those jars are colonizing nicly now. Normally I do 60 minutes though as any more then that is a waste of time. But 60 minutes is MINIMUM in my opinion.

I never rinse my grain. I put it in my simmer pot, right out of the bag, fill up the pot with water and let it soak for 24 hours, add more water if need after 24 hours, and simmer for 10-40 minutes (depending on how hot it is and how much grain and if I'm using WBS or rye or a mix...just WBS as spawn gets 10 minute simmer, if I'm fruiting then there will be rye mixed in and I'll go for more like 40). Then strain and let it steam without rinsing. Helps get the water content better when it steams like this:


Let it steam/drip for 10 minutes, add some dry verm and mix around letting it drip and steam and mix (while verm soaks up water) for another 10, then they're usually ready for jars.

Just what I do, most people rinse...I never do though...


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Re: Very quick, dumb question: how important is rinsing the grain after soaking? [Re: GNIOM1498]
    #3939896 - 03/19/05 02:26 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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nah i pc that long before first attempt, but that was with BF not WBS.  but to answer ur question Im guessing its pretty important cause theres a ton of waxy/greasy shit left on the seeds.  I hate WBS because of that smell i can't stand it. GL with that though :grin:





Talk to Frappy, he doesn't like the smell so bad he claims the WBS bags I sent him are contaminated. Whooo hooo, smelly WBS is contamination haha.

On a second note, I normally make bags and not jars with WBS. If you use WBS in jars using some gymsum to break up the seed is a good idea. I think verm also is nice and will be adding that to my wbs bags soon.


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Re: Very quick, dumb question: how important is rinsing the grain after soaking? [Re: Fluxburn]
    #3940106 - 03/19/05 03:21 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

"Whooo hooo, smelly WBS is contamination"

It quite likly is. WBS smells after you soak it, but after you PC it, it should smell like WBS, not bad sour smell.


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Re: Very quick, dumb question: how important is rinsing the grain after soaking? [Re: MOTH]
    #3940183 - 03/19/05 03:49 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

dood the WBS spawn bags I have colonizing smell too, and they have no contaminations in them dood.


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Re: Very quick, dumb question: how important is rinsing the grain after soaking? [Re: Fluxburn]
    #3940202 - 03/19/05 03:56 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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dood the WBS spawn bags I have colonizing smell too, and they have no contaminations in them dood.




Dood, ok dood :smile:

Colonizing WBS smells, WBS smells...contamed WBS...SMELLLSSSSS. If someone felt it was sour, it probably was. Quite likly, not sealed well enough to withstand shipping. It is very different when you make them for yourself, they dont get thrown around your house for days, or weeks, before you knock them up.

And dont go on a rampage at me and get all defensive, I really couldnt give a shit about the whole transaction...I'm just saying open your eyes to the possibility. It does exist. How many bags have you mailed with reported success? If not any, how do you know they withstand shipping?


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"life is like a drop of rain getting closer and closer to falling into a lake, and then when you hit the lake there is no more rain drop, only the lake."

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Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: Very quick, dumb question: how important is rinsing the grain after soaking? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3940207 - 03/19/05 03:58 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

agreed scatman.. bags are much more likely to take on air than a jar when being moved


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Re: Very quick, dumb question: how important is rinsing the grain after soaking? [Re: SHROOMpimp]
    #3940235 - 03/19/05 04:09 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

I have shipped about 20 bags, one probelm so far but he was happily sent another bag, just like the the big retailers do whoo hoo.

Plus the bags are shipped with the filter patch being blocked primarily from air, thus no air really enters the bag.

I guess an air freshner should be included with the bags?


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Re: Very quick, dumb question: how important is rinsing the grain after soaking? [Re: Fluxburn]
    #3940273 - 03/19/05 04:22 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Good sign, youve sent off a few without problems. Still, the seal may have ruptured in shipping, depending on how its handled..only takes a small hole. Thats why vendors replace them for free...usually when the person says it was contamed, it was...doesnt mean its theirs (or your) fault...shippings just hard on bags.


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Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
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Re: Very quick, dumb question: how important is rinsing the grain after soaking? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3940497 - 03/19/05 05:27 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Ah your right, I need to put my ego in the bag and let it go. Who cares really, thanks scatman.

Perhaps there is some substance to put inside the bags that reduces smell? So all grain based bags smell, such as rye and corn, because we known WBS can stink.


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