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OfflineGolddoor
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Crossbreeding? Lost potency?
    #3934446 - 03/18/05 09:15 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Is it possible to crossbreed mushrooms? I had taken some cakes and crumbled them up in some poo and hay and possibly put F+ and Golden Teachers together in the poo. All the shrooms from the poo look different from each other and from the shrooms that grew on the cakes themselves. Some of the shrooms look just like toad stools from my yard and some look like shrooms. Also the potency seems to be way way down. How did that happen?


Edited by Golddoor (03/18/05 09:19 AM)


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Re: Crossbreeding? Lost potency? [Re: Golddoor]
    #3934501 - 03/18/05 09:32 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

From what I've personally gathered, the seperate starins had an essential "turf war" and what was actaully fruited took the flak.  In the future, keep your strains a little better sorted :wink:


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Re: Crossbreeding? Lost potency? [Re: Golddoor]
    #3934529 - 03/18/05 09:42 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

BAsically from my cats experience he has found that mixing strains in a casing, or MSI in a jar causes just one strain to dominate another, and the fruits to be of that dominant strain, but you're result dont seem to fit that bill, So personally me and my cat are left puzzled maybe some more experienced peeps know whats up...happy shroomin


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Re: Crossbreeding? Lost potency? [Re: BladeLSD]
    #3934886 - 03/18/05 11:36 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

You mixed them all up...multiple networks were established within the casing. You got many fruits from two different kinds of mushrooms. A single casing with the same strain can have VERY different looking mushrooms. Theres no hybrids..


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Re: Crossbreeding? Lost potency? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3937500 - 03/18/05 09:56 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks guys, Any ideas why they have lost potency? Me and a friend have tried them twice and both have the same opinion that the trip just isn't there like the ones from the cakes.


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Re: Crossbreeding? Lost potency? [Re: Golddoor]
    #3937519 - 03/18/05 09:59 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: Crossbreeding? Lost potency? [Re: tahoe]
    #3938348 - 03/19/05 02:09 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I would like to take a stab at this maybe since the mycelium network was smaller not a lot of nutrients getting into the different strains. They didn't share the nutrients because its not like half was on this side and half on this side but a little of each here and there.


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Re: Crossbreeding? Lost potency? [Re: GNIOM1498]
    #3938590 - 03/19/05 03:28 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Anyone have the link to Why you cant cross breed, the one about how spores are A-sexual, Derx sent it to me once, i'd like to keep it in my fav.s for all the threads that are created asking this Same question, thankx

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Re: Crossbreeding? Lost potency? [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #3938598 - 03/19/05 03:31 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

According to Stamets/Chilton, Spores are asexual, but the mycelium they form is not.


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Re: Crossbreeding? Lost potency? [Re: Mages]
    #3938605 - 03/19/05 03:33 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

They produce what was it, gamates(sp?)...lol I donno, its around here somewhere, ill find it or someone will post it :shrug:
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Re: Crossbreeding? Lost potency? [Re: Mages]
    #3938679 - 03/19/05 04:06 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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Mages said:
According to Stamets/Chilton, Spores are asexual, but the mycelium they form is not.



the mycelium thay make is too , its only after two asexual mycelium networks meet swap DNA and form a hyphae knot that thay have a full set of cromasonzones and can make mushrooms

this and teh musjroomlife cycle , mushroom sex ect id coverd in the mushroom cultivator. what you dont have that book well go buy it is a must have.


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Re: Crossbreeding? Lost potency? [Re: Dem_Bones]
    #3939078 - 03/19/05 09:32 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)



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Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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