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OfflineLethalX5
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When you say toss your jars
    #3931483 - 03/17/05 06:59 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Do you mean toss the whole jar or just the inside of it then wash and reuse it?


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Re: When you say toss your jars [Re: LethalX5]
    #3931610 - 03/17/05 07:22 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Well if you have contam in a jar I would say you wouldn't wanna open that up and let all those nasty spores out, so I think they mean toss the whole jar. If you want to save the jars I would say throw them in the pc for a while to kill all the nastys so you don't get sick or anything.


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Re: When you say toss your jars [Re: Taskenti]
    #3931691 - 03/17/05 07:41 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

You can just toss whats in the jar, but you need to be carful about removal, squirt in bleach water, or PC it first and do it outside, in a bag, carfully with a mask on.

These days, its more worth it for me to toss the jars. I get fewer I think because I dont open them, so nothing ever spreads and its rare. Jars are less then a buck each...for me, a dollar is not worth scraping out that nasty smelling shit and dealing with it getting spores and shit everywhere.


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Re: When you say toss your jars [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3931737 - 03/17/05 07:52 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Squirt two ....20 ml syringes full of hot sudsy bleachy water into each jar, shake & let it soak in overnight. Next day, submerge jars in tote 3/4 full of more hot sudsy lysol / bleach / pinesol water, twist lid enough that jars fill, sink & allow to soak overnight.

Wearing gloves, empty jars into sudsy tote water & scrub out. Change & hot wash clothes you wore doing all that, spray lysol on shoes & take a hot shower. Run jars & lids through pot scrubber dishwasher cycle.

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Re: When you say toss your jars [Re: agar]
    #3932093 - 03/17/05 09:08 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I hope either either agar or scat looks at this again! :wink:

What do you two think about larger bins that have been contamed... Costing close to $13 each, I really have been avoiding throwing them out.  All contams have been green on the casing, but like you mentioned earlier scat, once you get one contam, the spores are out and it seems to be a domino effect.

As of late, I have taken the bin to the dumpster (I live in an apt) and thrown out the contents there.  That is risky in and of itself.  I feel real suspicious running around the complex with this bin, with duct tape around the sides and polyfill sticking out. :lol: So I make sure to do it at three in the morning...

Then there's the problem of once the bin is emptied out, cleaning out the inside thoroughly for reuse.... I don't have access to a garden hose (apt) so I have been using my extra bathroom (the one I shower in and stuff, not involved with growing whatsoever) and trying to clean out the inside with the facet in the shower.

Using the sink facet takes FOREVER to fill a 64 qt bin,m so that's why I use the bathtub.  I rinse off the sides, and then have used alcohol and paper towels to wipe off the sides best I can.... Bleach is so smelly and messy and I'm afraid if I try to fill the tub with bleach water and try to move the tub across the apartment that I will manage to spill it on the carpet or something....

So, I have used this method to date and just spawned a tub that had been infected with the evil green... I guess the ultimate test will to see how it turns out....

It doesn't seem like the green would be as bad as some as the nasty shit the gets growing in jars sometimes, and it seems like the green is only in the casing layer, but that's only what it SEEMS.  It could be that the whole sub is filled with it, unobservable to the naked eye... 

I don't know really...I just know I have one tub sitting right now that I need to clean out and wanted to use the new horse poo (using the method you recommended agar :wink:)  I have just been putting off cleaning it cause that's the WORST part of growing, cleaning up contams...

wow, that was more than I meant to write, as usual....let me know what you think...specifically about using alcohol to clean out the bins...

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Re: When you say toss your jars [Re: mushroommark]
    #3932281 - 03/17/05 09:40 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Oh, yeah, one more thought I forgot to mention...

I was thinking about buying some of those plant misters and filling one with h2o2 and the other with vinegar.
Then spraying down the tubs thoroughly.... this seems like it could be a little safer, but mess free way to clean out large tubs... i don't know though... let me know what you think


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Re: When you say toss your jars [Re: mushroommark]
    #3932570 - 03/17/05 10:36 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

White vinigar in one mist bottle, h202 in the other - one sprayed on - after the other -- does a very effective job. Also, before spawning bulk, soak paper towel in 70% alc, wipe down & allow to evap.


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Re: When you say toss your jars [Re: mushroommark]
    #3932608 - 03/17/05 10:46 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

For me casings are already open, spores already exposed everywhere. I spray lysol everywhere and crank up my HEPA filters, dump the casing into the trash bag and squirt antibacterial soap all over the container and spray it down. My sink has one of those sprayer hoses attached. I also make sure theres 2 splashes of peroxide in my next two mists instead of just one splash.

Then they soak in anti bacterial water for about an hour, then down the sink (disposal sucks all the water down quick with all the crap). Then use a long scrubby brush thing I have for jars (like a toilet bowl cleaner, but smaller...found in sponge section at grocery stores and stuff) after filling up with soapy water again and scrub it well, all most everything...and then wash it once more with a regular sponge, getting it all...nice and hot water...

I always spray with iso alcohol in a spray bottle and wipe out before spawning to tubs...


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Re: When you say toss your jars [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3933312 - 03/18/05 01:23 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Sounds good, very reassuring....

I'm gonna start doing the h2o2 and white vinegar,

Also, good idea with the spray bottle and alchol, (why didn't i think of that :lol:)

I think both of these techniques used in  conjunction should do the trick, but there's only one way to find out....*gets up and starts cleaning tub previously contamed tub and later to be holding freshly spawned horse poo*


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Re: When you say toss your jars [Re: agar]
    #3938164 - 03/19/05 01:04 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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agar said:
White vinigar in one mist bottle, h202 in the other - one sprayed on - after the other -- does a very effective job. Also, before spawning bulk, soak paper towel in 70% alc, wipe down & allow to evap.




ditto, I use 99% as I always have it and it evaps quicker than 70% due to the lower water content


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Re: When you say toss your jars [Re: penlight438094]
    #3938659 - 03/19/05 04:02 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

ughhhhhh...... 70% takes longer to evap, thus (IMHO) does a more effective job. Ya know..... like that weird deoderant, that lasts for days. Only.......... 70% alc lasts for a few minutes.

Just my 0.02 cents........... for what its worth.... :wink:


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Re: When you say toss your jars [Re: penlight438094]
    #3939167 - 03/19/05 10:31 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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agar said:
White vinigar in one mist bottle, h202 in the other - one sprayed on - after the other -- does a very effective job. Also, before spawning bulk, soak paper towel in 70% alc, wipe down & allow to evap.




ditto, I use 99% as I always have it and it evaps quicker than 70% due to the lower water content




And the faster evaporation time is exactly why its less effective then the 70% as agar pointed out.


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Re: When you say toss your jars [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3947276 - 03/21/05 03:32 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Seriously, either buy a hepa air mask to protect yourself at least, or just throw it out. Breathing the spores didn't make me sick, but I am only 23 and can handle some abuse I guess. I would at minium do a hepa face mask and try to dump the stuff outside and clean the piss out of it with bleach. Agars method of putting in a bucket sounds smart, I might try that.

Man what do you guys recommend for removing mold from the kitchen?


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Re: When you say toss your jars [Re: Fluxburn]
    #3947635 - 03/21/05 06:43 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Fluxburn said: Man what do you guys recommend for removing mold from the kitchen?




You can buy those little hand held steam cleaners, pretty cheap (Or rent one). The better ones are very effective at cleaning away mold / mildew & 5 year old dry spagetti sause stains off kitchen walls.


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Re: When you say toss your jars [Re: agar]
    #3947683 - 03/21/05 07:21 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

guys ... simply load them to the clave, givem 90 mins and ur free to
discard them anywhere you want b/c whats was in there is DEAD :wink:
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Re: When you say toss your jars [Re: ohmatic]
    #3947738 - 03/21/05 08:38 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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