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OfflineServelan
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Out of control
    #3929745 - 03/17/05 11:29 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

I'd like some advise about coping with ego loss. When I'm tripping I've been worrying about doing something stupid like falling out of a window or wandering outside the house  :shocked:. If there's no "me" and no conscious control then what's looking out for me?

I've been tripping on my own cos my friends aren't into shrooms but perhaps having a trip friend would help. I've been taking 30g fresh Mexican's but maybe a higher dose would push me through this tricky spot. I'm always fine on lower doses.


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Re: Out of control [Re: Servelan]
    #3929776 - 03/17/05 11:37 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Stay seated or laying down and keep all objects of danger (knives, fire, etc.) away. Put a note on your door (or several) telling yourself not to leave |edit: if your tripping hard you probably can't read it anyways, so this might be useless|. I would imagine if your experiencing ego loss you probably won't be getting up anyways but these are some precautions you can take.


Edited by T85 (03/17/05 11:38 AM)


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Re: Out of control [Re: T85]
    #3929812 - 03/17/05 11:48 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

As long as you respect and trust the shrooms you'll be fine. As for ego loss I don't tend to do anything more than lie/sit down - you can't, and don't really want to, do anything physical in that state.

Also high doses don't necessarily guarantee ego-loss - it's more to do with the state of mind you're in.


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Re: Out of control [Re: Servelan]
    #3929832 - 03/17/05 11:54 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

I highly doubt you will be lifting a finger if you reach ego loss. I have never once got up and walked around during ego loss.


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Re: Out of control [Re: DNKYD]
    #3931956 - 03/17/05 08:41 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Think of it more like giving control of yourself to your subconscious, so you act naturally and spontaneously. You are your consciousness...the detatched observer? No. The creator. You create your reality in which you naturally guide your body, that's the lesson the trip tries to teach...


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Re: Out of control [Re: theorganicdomino]
    #3933559 - 03/18/05 02:33 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

theorganicdomino said:
As long as you respect and trust the shrooms you'll be fine.




I agree, trust and respect are key when it comes to doing any drug!  It's important to be able to trust the substance you're putting into your body. 

As for egoloss, both times I've experienced it I've only been able to curl up into a ball and experience.    :mushroom2:


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Re: Out of control [Re: MOTH]
    #3934975 - 03/18/05 12:02 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

I have noticed that usually I just want to lay there and experience, the mushrooms with their body put down effect, especially on a high dose, but other times I have been in ego loss and moved around and walked and experienced things. Very raw, and fun, like crawling around just like a baby. If you have the divine grace to achieve this state, trust in yourself, that is the only ONE to trust.


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Re: Out of control [Re: mecreateme]
    #3935936 - 03/18/05 03:41 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

yea usually it will just be lying or curled up, but walking around is the craziest state. whatever emotions you are feeling will be 832 times more. like if you are fighting it or scared you can uncontrollable hit shit and be totally out of it, or if you are feeling the vibe then it is like looking at the world from a completely alternate perspective.
crazy, downtown in a city with so much going on :twirlyface:
but not a great idea to chill downtown for your first ego loss attempt! just if you are in the area and up to it go outside and walk around.

wow tripping in vancouver in summer must be so dope. all those parks and such a cool city. anyone done it?


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Re: Out of control [Re: Servelan]
    #3936206 - 03/18/05 04:49 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

the only time i've experienced full ego loss, i was completely immobilized. i laid on my bed in the fetal position for the majority of the hardest part of the trip. i think that as long as you prepare yourself and are able to let go, you won't have problems. most of the reports i hear of people doing something stupid while on a high dose are people that didn't even know what ego loss was until they experienced it, and that can by terrifying. trust and respect :mushroom2:


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Re: Out of control [Re: holio1]
    #3938132 - 03/19/05 12:54 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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holio1 said:


wow tripping in vancouver in summer must be so dope. all those parks and such a cool city. anyone done it?




Many times.


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