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OfflineBrennen
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Dry shrooms. The older the better?
    #3928738 - 03/17/05 02:11 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

I heard that the older you preserve your dry mushrooms, the more potent they get. is this true? I always thought as time passes, they lose potency?


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Re: Dry shrooms. The older the better? [Re: bumper]
    #3928806 - 03/17/05 02:36 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Man i'll tell ya something. I had some Hawaiian's vacuum sealed in an autoclav bag. I hid them in my china cabinet and totally forgot about them. My girlfriend found them almost 2 years later changing the dishes in it. I took them to a friends house and handed them out for free at a garage building party he had. Man they were still very good. I'm not saying they were better, but they certainly weren't worse.


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Re: Dry shrooms. The older the better? [Re: Brennen]
    #3928875 - 03/17/05 03:24 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

There is no reason why they should get more potent.


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Re: Dry shrooms. The older the better? [Re: Anno]
    #3929198 - 03/17/05 07:46 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

I have sealed shrooms for over 2 years myself...airtight..they'll keep perfectly pretty much. The certainly dont, and wouldnt, gain potency though.


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Re: Dry shrooms. The older the better? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3929217 - 03/17/05 08:04 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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scatmanrav said:

I have sealed shrooms for over 2 years myself...airtight..they'll keep perfectly pretty much. The certainly dont, and wouldnt, gain potency though.




I have some old dried Psilocybe Cyanescens...a little over 2 oz's...laying around.

I suppose I could do an experiment.

:smirk:

What do you think bro?


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Re: Dry shrooms. The older the better? [Re: Roadkill]
    #3929219 - 03/17/05 08:07 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

2 oz's!! Can I join this experimentation??


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Re: Dry shrooms. The older the better? [Re: Cray]
    #3929235 - 03/17/05 08:17 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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Cray said:

2 oz's!! Can I join this experimentation??




I knew that might get someones attention.

:smile:


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Re: Dry shrooms. The older the better? [Re: Roadkill]
    #3929241 - 03/17/05 08:21 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

That would be a cool experiement Roadkill, you'd better jump all over that one  :eek: :mushroom2:

They probably don't get more potent over time, but they certainly don't degrade either.  Also, over and over I hear of people reporting that older shrooms provide a "gentler" trip somehow.  It's almost as if something changes in the chemistry with a good aging.
Check out what this guy says: 

http://www.erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/mushrooms_info5.shtml


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Re: Dry shrooms. The older the better? [Re: Holydiver]
    #3929254 - 03/17/05 08:32 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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Diver said:

That would be a cool experiement Roadkill, you'd better jump all over that one  :eek: :mushroom2:




I will bro

I'm going to do like 3 grams...every 6 months to a year and see how they hold up(potency wise) over time.

I'm saving some for a friend that is over fighting in Iraq.
We are gonna trip when he gets back. :smile:

Thank you for the link...that was an interesting read!~
:smile:


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Re: Dry shrooms. The older the better? [Re: Roadkill]
    #3929275 - 03/17/05 08:47 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Only if I can participate! Hehe. I'm waiting on my Pans to come up (quart and pint almost done..I should check those) so you can keep your silly little potent wood lovers. Unless of course I _can_ participate. Then I'll take them all.

Wait a minute, your gonna take 3 grams of them??? Isnt that equal to like 9 cubie grams give or take? Your just sick....

Wine and bud are still alive when they are jarred up, metabolic processess still kicking. FULLY dried mushrooms though should have all processess come to a full and complete halt. IF they did get stronger, then they would defy science IMO.

I still dont think they'll be weaker though...I think the guy in that link just had really potent mushrooms to begin with. The thing is, you can never really accuratly guage if it gets better without actually measuring it because you change everyday. Every trip too. Whether you have lots of trips between the stuff you put away, or no trips, or even a few trips, your going to be a very different person because of it. And especially a different person by the time the stored stuff is all gone. Settings will be different, as will moods. Different experiences had since that time will also affect it. Maybe you wont have a decent trip in 6 months and you may trip just as hard as last time, but 6 months is a long time apart to still remember exactly how you felt last time you did it to really notice and remember what the trip was like.

Most people who store shrooms, dont trip at all except on the stored shrooms...if they wait forever then of course its gonna be an incredibly strong trip, trips always are after you havnt had one in a while. You almost forget what the experience is like..as opposed to if you do them every two weeks. You'll still trip every two weeks, but you'll handle it easier and easier because you remember it..

My take on it...


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Re: Dry shrooms. The older the better? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3929438 - 03/17/05 09:43 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

scatmanrav said:

I'm waiting on my Pans to come up (quart and pint almost done..I should check those) so you can keep your silly little potent wood lovers.




lolzz @ u

Silly little wood lovers eh?

ok bro...now you done did it.

I'd rather take my silly little wood lovers over your Pans...any day.

Plus my silly little wood lovers don't live in shit!~
and I can go hunt them with ease and not have to grow them!~

lolzz


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scatmanrav said:

Wait a minute, your gonna take 3 grams of them??? Isnt that equal to like 9 cubie grams give or take?




Yeah 3 grams of Psilocybe Cyanescens is alot.

But I've taken over 11 dry grams of Cambodian's(cubensis) and lived to tell the story.
That was a wild ride...a little hellish...to say the least.

Cyans are a much cleaner trip than Cubensis...from my experiences.

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scatmanrav said:

Wine and bud are still alive when they are jarred up, metabolic processess still kicking. FULLY dried mushrooms though should have all processess come to a full and complete halt. IF they did get stronger, then they would defy science IMO.




I agree with you...totally.
I just want to see if the potency will be lower...over the next few years.

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I still dont think they'll be weaker though...I think the guy in that link just had really potent mushrooms to begin with. The thing is, you can never really accuratly guage if it gets better without actually measuring it because you change everyday. Every trip too. Whether you have lots of trips between the stuff you put away, or no trips, or even a few trips, your going to be a very different person because of it. And especially a different person by the time the stored stuff is all gone. Settings will be different, as will moods. Different experiences had since that time will also affect it. Maybe you wont have a decent trip in 6 months and you may trip just as hard as last time, but 6 months is a long time apart to still remember exactly how you felt last time you did it to really notice and remember what the trip was like.




Yes and no.
I agree that settings and mood does effect trips.
But I can feel the difference in potency.
I can tell the difference between certain strains of cubensis by what kind of trip they produce.
I can prove this...try the Cambodian then try the Gulf Coast.
They are two very different types of trips...and it has been repeated many times...by many people.
Test it yourself!~

By the way...I can remember all my trips.
I remember my first trip on mushrooms from 1976...on Liberty Caps.
I remember my last Acid trip...in great detail...in 1984.

I'd share my Cyans with you...btw  :smile:

Peace and Love to ya bro!~


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Re: Dry shrooms. The older the better? [Re: Roadkill]
    #3929512 - 03/17/05 10:04 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

I wish I had an outside to do wood lovers honestly...but since I dont, I have developed a predjudice against them I think :smile:

I had Tampanensis (fruits) before, and they were incredibly clean compared to cubies, and if similar to other exotics like I think, I know what you mean. But still I took 1.5 grams of those and wow...I could deal with 3 grams, but I dont know that I'd want to twice a year..... And I dont know how well I'd remember what happened, even the next day...

I can guage differences better then most..you probably can as well. Most though arent as receptive of the trip though and I've noticed setting and mood will affect them such a huge amount. It is also people who have tripped fewer times. I only started about 4 years myself, since have tripped on shrooms over 100 times (lost track a dozen or so ago at 106) from .5-7.5 grams (with 1 tab of nice acid on the 7.5), but alot of those I dont remember because it was an every weekend thing for me for quite some time. I remember them...but not well enough that I could go back and pick out trip 6 months ago..

Well actually..them Tamps really do stand out in my mind, as do most of the acid trips (only a few dozen of those) so perhaps due to them being exotics and the fact that your taking so much, it would really stand out.

You know I dont know what I'm even talking about anymore....I rambled to much and forgot where I was going with this...anyways...yeah...the post before was a general response to why alot of people could store shrooms and think they were more potent..not specifically in this instance...if your good enough at remember trips and guaging potency..it sounds like a fun experiment.


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Re: Dry shrooms. The older the better? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3929566 - 03/17/05 10:25 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Ya. I didn't think it would gain potency. I guess it's all about how they preserved it. I got some mush last night, and the guy told me some of them we're really old and because of it they were really good. I guess I'll just have to try them and see. Thanks everybody.


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Re: Dry shrooms. The older the better? [Re: Brennen]
    #3929580 - 03/17/05 10:30 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

have a nice ride!~

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