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tomk
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Re: Spiritually sick...how to heal? [Re: tomk]
#3932255 - 03/17/05 07:34 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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I would take issue with some of these suggestions. It seems you think too much, not too little, and examining in depth the motivations for spirituality will just draw you farther into a world of illusion. Examining your goals for the future will also take you into the illusory world that the parts of your head meditation makes you realize you are not in control of control. If you want peace, you need to learn to disipline your mind.
(ETA: HAHAHA I wrote this as elle was typing. See what I mean. You're thinking too much, which is causing you to lose touch with reality, including your spiritual situation.)
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Edited by tomk (03/17/05 07:36 PM)
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Re: Spiritually sick...how to heal? [Re: tomk]
#3932272 - 03/17/05 07:38 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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If you are serious about your spirituality, you should consider using the mushrooms after you have learned to meditate. You feel a lot more connected with the world after meditating for a while, and this would be a much better state to maximize the ethnogenic capacities of the mushrooms.
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Re: Spiritually sick...how to heal? [Re: tomk]
#3932419 - 03/17/05 08:08 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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EllemyshShade: Chronic (more than once or twice a week) marijuana use is not conducive to spiritual experience or good health. Shrooms and Huasca can also have adverse effects if used too frequently. Occasional marijuana use should be like alcohol use...every once in a while. I reserve the hallucinogens for one or two well planned experiences a year. I used to use entheogens like I was eating candy. From year 17 to 23 I used LSD twice a week. 5 hits on Wednesday and 8 on Saturday. I lost touch with reality and found myself promoting psychedelics to everyone I knew for nearly any reason. I also developed a bad problem with panic attacks due to free floating anxieties created during these often chaotic experiences. When I did not have any acid I became seriously depressed. In hindsight I really regret all the trips I blew on partying instead of using them in picturesque environments at special times in my life. A shamanistic lifestyle does not require the frequent use of drugs, nor is this healthy. Your greatest commitment to the spirit should be to maintain that which is most holy...the self. The ultimate expression of gratitude for the life you have been given is to preserve it mentally and physically. This is the ultimate thanks to God and spirit. Spiritual beliefs that require drugs to maintain are patently false.
-------------------- "A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda
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Re: Spiritually sick...how to heal? [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
#3933323 - 03/17/05 11:26 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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"avoid bogus, new-age "spirituality" or "spirituality-by-proxy" What is your definition of these things? Examples?
bogus new-age spirituality: http://www.neatstuff.net/avalon/ or http://www.chopra.com or sprituality-by-proxy: http://www.maitreya-edu.org or http://www.vatican.va or any spirituality that involves an indirect connection to "the divine" or what have you.
there are thousands of other examples and they sure can deluded and alienate someone on a path of liberation.
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Re: Spiritually sick...how to heal? [Re: Vvellum]
#3934239 - 03/18/05 05:59 AM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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The experiences that you had helped you widen your perception so you could grasp a clearer picture of who you are, but this experience is just temporary and slowly vanishes away.
The identity of your consciousness with you ego is stronger than the identity of your consciousness with your real Self. Now you are confused because you got to see but not understand. Rationalizing what is beyond rationalization is impossible. Meditate to widen your perception naturally.
Don't be so hard on yourself...in the end you can be your worst enemy or you can chose to be your best friend.
EDIT: misspelling
-------------------- "It is never a question of belief; the only scientific attitude one can take on any subject is whether it is true. The law of gravitation worked as efficiently before Newton as after him. The cosmos would be fairly chaotic if its laws could not operate without the sanction of human belief." -- Sri Yukteswar
Edited by Delusion_of_Self (03/18/05 06:16 AM)
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Guys...I think I found the answer myself.
The only thing holding me back at this point is ME.
I knew it in my head, but I couldn't realize it. I re-realized it this morning when I was pounding on the treadmill.
It's my attitude and bad habits that are holding me back.
For change to occur, I need to change.
I need to dedicate myself to that.
And I think just by realizing this that I have a good start. I've started to *want* to change and grow again.
Thanks everyone.
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Re: Spiritually sick...how to heal? [Re: MOTH]
#3934342 - 03/18/05 06:43 AM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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good luck. you sound like a really sincere person.
many love.
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Re: Spiritually sick...how to heal? [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
#3934661 - 03/18/05 08:30 AM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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Huehuecoyotl said: Chronic (more than once or twice a week) marijuana use is not conducive to spiritual experience or good health.
Chronic marijuana use is not conducive to spiritual experience or good health as it applies to you. In my own experience, chronic marijuana use is conducive to spiritual experience, albeit my lungs do start to feel it after awhile.
I personally will go months without smoking at all, and then will smoke constantly for a period of two weeks. I've never noticed any interuption in my ability to have spiritual experiences, only major increases in the intensity and accessibillity of said spiritual experiences. Even when I was a couple years younger and would smoke almost every day for, what, a year, I only observed marked increases in my spiritual understanding, and also in the quality and frequency in the amount of "spiritual" experiences. In fact, without said marijuana usage, my mind would have never yearned towards higher consciousness at all.
Not everyone has trouble maintaining a fresh, healthy perspective while using marijuana frequently. Not everyone succumbs to mental anxieties and disorders, not everyone burns out. Some people are capable of utilizing marijuana frequently in an effective, life-affirming, spiritually-conductive manner.
Peace.
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Re: Spiritually sick...how to heal? [Re: MOTH]
#3935510 - 03/18/05 11:55 AM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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EllemyshShade said: Guys...I think I found the answer myself.
The only thing holding me back at this point is ME.
I knew it in my head, but I couldn't realize it. I re-realized it this morning when I was pounding on the treadmill.
It's my attitude and bad habits that are holding me back.
For change to occur, I need to change.
I need to dedicate myself to that.
And I think just by realizing this that I have a good start. I've started to *want* to change and grow again.
Thanks everyone.
Someone here said that the healing begins with asking the question on how to heal as the desire is there. I too find that once I identify a problem, just by asking questions I open the doors for answers and solutions to flood in. Sometimes, when I feel in a quandary for days I then decide to post questions on the message boards and before anyone can even answer to help me, the solutions and insights start flooding in on their own from within me. All I had to do was begin asking with intent to know and understand.
I think sometimes find themselves in a quandary and can start to get focused on judging it or feeling sorry for themselves before they think to take action to resolve it. It seems once you think to take action to resolve it, the solutions were right there ready and waiting. Its as if you can't see them when in lower states until you brighten up out of them enough to think, it doesn't have to be like this, there is a way out. The doors start appearing left and right.
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Re: Spiritually sick...how to heal? [Re: fireworks_god]
#3937282 - 03/18/05 07:02 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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"Chronic marijuana use is not conducive to spiritual experience or good health as it applies to you" If a person needs drugs to be spiritual, they have a drug problem. This is from someone who has done more drugs than you can even dream of in your life...I did have an 18 year head start after all, and that counts for something. I just finally saw the truth. I regret I wasted so much time. I had a lot of fun, and just as much misery due to it. I find myself really starting life in my middle years because of the wasted time and the time spent wasted.
-------------------- "A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda
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Re: Spiritually sick...how to heal? [Re: MOTH]
#3937868 - 03/18/05 09:45 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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EllemyshShade said: It all started with a mushroom trip actually...I had absolutely no idea what I believed when I started tripping. I even hated God. Then I took 5 grams of shrooms about a year ago and experienced things I never, ever would have imagined. It was so terrifying and life-changing. It uprooted me to the core. Afterwards, to cling to my sanity I started reading more about Buddhism and Hinduism, and started looking at my Christian upbringing in a more thankful light. I felt so renewed and reborn, all fresh inside. I realized that I could be any type of person that I wanted and all that was holding me back was me. I also realized that I didn't know anything. I realized I was completely ignorant but I sort of enjoyed it because that meant I was growing and discovering things. After that trip, it was like I was exploring the world for the first time. I felt like a sponge.
. If you had a hate for GOD, and you saw some terrifying life changing stuff, why would you not turn in a direction to understand what it was that you hated in the first place....? Facing your fears or hate without fear is where GOD comes in.... . I am very glad you made it out ok, and no matter what you think you "know", you may always only "know" one speck of sand in a full hourglass.... Knowing that, you *should* learn as much as you can about what it is you think you don't understand....! . . .
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And I started thinking that the most important thing for me to do as a human being is to grow spiritually, so that I can be prepared for death. But I didn't neglect the physical or emotional...I started exercising and eating right, recycling, meditating, the works. I have never been so happy, to be honest. I never thought that things couldn't continue as they were. I thought I had found the answer: love.
. For death, there are no physical things to prepare for.... Though your actions might give you a satisfaction of "doing the right thing", you would be no more ready for death itself than if you had not done any of it.... To truly prepare (in my humble opinion) one has to be accepting to the fact that it could truly happen in the very next second, and not be afraid of such happenings.... Not to mean that you should not be aware of your surroundings, but you should also be accepting that it can happen at any moment.... . Honesty, Joy, and LOVE are a VERY good start....! Without "preaching", I will leave it at that.... . . .
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But gradually, I started to slip. I don't know how it started. But I guess when I started studying Taoism I realized that you can't deny one facet of life and favor the other. I started realizing the violence that mankind was capable of, and I realized that to survive I may need to be violent at one point as well. That sort of upset me. I had thought all humanity needed was love, but here I realize that it's not the answer for everyone, all the time. I started questioning myself, and soon I came to realize that I am constructed of two halves, my lower-self and my higher-self. I started to wonder if by catering to my higher-self, I was neglecting my lower-self and if that was a case, how could I ever hope to be a balanced individual?
. I don't understand the terms "upper-self" and "lower-self", but to place value as to say one is more important than the other, just doesn't sound fair to you.... It sounds like a balance battle that may never be truly balanced because your higher and lower self will always be in a state of change and evolvement.... Such is life.... . If you live out of positive intentions towards everything, there is no real higher or lower value to anything you do.... You just may be able to better prioritize the things that you decide to do thru your positive new outlook.... . . .
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So I started to pay more attention to my lower-self, the selfish and over-indulgent side, the feral and wild side. It was pretty cool at first because I got to the point where I could detect which feeling and actions came from my lower-self, and then I could try and avoid them. But then I started realizing the validity of some of my lower-self emotions and actions (it is one half of me, afterall) and I began to take them more seriously. I started thinking, "It's okay to feel selfish sometimes. It's okay to feel angry or upset sometimes." I still believe that it's okay to feel those negative things.
. I would have to agree that it may be ok to feel selfish, angry, or upset at times, just so long as you do not act out in a way that is not filled with positive intentions towards that which has caused such feelings.... BUT, I also believe such waste of energy is not needed, and only serves to cloud the mind of your decisions and/or seeing a solution to the actual problem.... . Feeling selfish about anything is out of self-guilt, and is also a negative intention towards yourself.... It will only serve to bring you down, or cause emotional unbalance.... If you choose to do something that you may consider selfish, examine if you are doing such things as a positive intention, or a negative intention.... If it is out of a positive, even if it is self serving, it is just fine as long as it does not harm anyone else physically or mentally.... . Guilt is a manifestation of you thinking you have done something wrong.... If you have not done anything out of negative intentions, there is nothing to feel guilty about.... . . .
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So my entire goal is internal balance. I would like to attain balance between my higher-self and lower-self. But right now, I feel all muddled and have felt like this for several weeks now. The clarity I originally felt from my mushroom trip is almost entirely gone. I know it's still in me...but I can't find it. And I figure that it will take a change in me for the stuff in my brain to un-muddle and become clear again, but I don't know what to do.
. You will attain perfect balance when you accept who you are for who you are.... You don't need drugs to find balance.... But it is also ok to do drugs if you are not doing it out of negative intensions, or as some sort of cure.... The cure is in you, and in your beliefs.... . . .
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I can say with all the sincerity in my heart that my original intentions were not selfish. My original intentions were about suviving the aftermath of that trip. I had been reduced to nothing, simply crushed and extinguished in that trip. If I had not turned to spirituality afterwards, I might have gone insane. It was the sole anchor that held me together as I integrated what happened during that trip. Once I integreted, I became curious about religion and other spiritual paths. So I started reading. But somehow, I think I got turned around and mixed up. Maybe I stopped listening to my heart or something. Well, let me rephrase that: I can't hear it anymore.
. If you stay at a level where you think you are nothing, and can be happy, you will realize that you are again in touch with your heart.... Then you can start reconditioning the way you feel about things, and reconditioning the way you act towards things in a more positive light.... . . .
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Another thing that I've constantly been worrying about is my pot smoking. You see, I know it's bullshit to blame problems on drugs. But I worry that it's interfering with my growth. In fact, I've been obsessing over it so much that I've tried to quit twice. But I don't know how accurate my perception is that pot is messing with my spirituality, because I have the tendency to freak out and then obsess about stuff in general. My husband for example, thinks that I am overreacting about weed. I'm not sure anymore. I know I self-medicate with it. But I have got this nagging feeling that many of my current spirituality (and thus physical and emotional) problems can be solved by quitting pot, or at least lesson up on using it. So does it sound to you guys like I'm just freaking out about it?
. Only you can decide what is "right" for you.... Anything can be used for the "right" reasons if you see it in that light.... If your "use" has turned to what you consider "abuse", you have to figure out why you feel this way.... . . .
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The only other drug I use is mushrooms, every month or so. I haven't used Ayahuasca in months. My past few mushroom trips have been spent helping other people through their trips, making sure that they are okay, sort of as a trip guide. There's always a distraction. I love helping my friends, but each time I regret not spending more time to myself during the trip. I can't remember the last time I've had a trip to myself, so to speak, where I'm free to evaluate myself to my hearts content.
. Sounds like you nay just need a good trip by yourself so you can relax and enjoy it for yourself....! Ain't nuthin wrong with that at all....! . . .
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In this spiritual crises, I have even thought that what I need is a good, old-fashioned, psychedelic kick-in-the-ass, like the trip that propelled me on this path to begin with. I feel like it's been so long since I've had my ego crushed, since I've felt that sense of humility and awe.
. Well, you don't need mushrooms for that, but that would be a matter of perspective.... Because it may have happened in you a past trip does not mean that it will happen in the future.... Any kind of trip is just too variable.... But, that doesn't mean that it won't happen, but if you have some sort of expectation of a trip, I have found in my past that my trip usually never lives up to my preconceived expectations.... Every trip I have ever taken has been different, ya~ just gotta~ let go and enjoy them for what they are.... If a trip makes you terrified, face that fear, and it will no longer be terrifying.... Remember, fear is also manifested inside your head, and can be faced without harm.... In this case, this is where Skorpivo's "let it go", and "flow with it" might be an appropriate way to handle such things.... . . .
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But also something tells me that to take another 5 gram trip right now would be a bad idea. I need to figure some stuff out before I go that far again. I still am planning to take a more manageable dose this weekend, ALONE, so that I can try and focus on myself while tripping for a change. I am looking forward to that experience, and have pledged to go without weed for two days prior, and two days afterwards. That way my mind will be clearer for the trip.
. Sounds like a plan....! Don't be surprised if this trip is a deep ego crusher like the one you had on your 5 gram trip.... Remember, ANYTHING is Possible....! I hope you do find what it is you are looking for this time out.... . . .
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Anyway, I'm just trying to figure out what to do and why I feel this way. Every post has had something helpful to say, thank you. . *me*
. It sounds like you may be on the right path.... A path for self growth as your intentions.... Perhaps only good things can come of it if you are prepared to face your fears and accept that you just may be the master of YOU....! . If you get to a point that you would like to discuss such things as what I usually post about as of lately(GOD), you just let me know, and I would be more than happy to share what little I can offer as help in your understanding and developement.... IF you would consider me of any help.... . ALWAYS REMEMBER, you are BEAUTIFUL just the way you are.... Why....? Because you are you, and that is the way you are....! . . WE....
-------------------- I'll be your midnight French Fry.... "The most important things in life that are often ignored, are the things that one cannot see...." >^;;^<
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Re: Spiritually sick...how to heal? [Re: MOTH]
#3938232 - 03/18/05 11:28 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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Go to the forest with loving peoples
Eat lots of fruit and nuts
Love yourself first
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Re: Spiritually sick...how to heal? [Re: MOTH]
#3938900 - 03/19/05 04:08 AM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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Help others.
All else is window dressing.
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Re: Spiritually sick...how to heal? [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
#3938999 - 03/19/05 06:13 AM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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Huehuecoyotl said: "Chronic marijuana use is not conducive to spiritual experience or good health as it applies to you" If a person needs drugs to be spiritual, they have a drug problem.
And if they do not need drugs to "be spiritual"?
Frequent drug use does not equate into a drug problem. Another variable has to be added to that equation to make frequent drug use equate into a drug problem. I understand that in your experience, your frequent drug use became a problem, and perhaps a contributing factor is just how frequently one uses drugs (depending on one's own, personal limit), but all frequent drug use does not equate into a drug problem.
Also, I might recommend that one tends to cease from passing judgement onto past experiences of one's life in such a manner, to refer to it as a waste of time, or to regret it. The chain of cause and effect is just like a river, and you owe every aspect of your present life to your past. Your perspective, your knowledge, your experience - it all shapes your present moment and the subsequent experience.
Not only this, but the past isn't in a state of present being anymore. Its gone. A pattern replicator still holds a dim recollection of these past moments, but your state of being is now, and to cause yourself to be emotionally affected by past occurences is needless. Complete acceptance of the past, however, is necessary. Reality occurs as it occurs and did occur as it was to occur, refusing to accept reality in spite of this severely seperates one's direct experience of all that this moment encompasses, which creates yet more problems.
Concern yourself with the past as necessary (that is, if the present moment and the situations in it require it), but to create more mental suffering as a result of it is just needless suffering.
Peace.
-------------------- If I should die this very moment I wouldn't fear For I've never known completeness Like being here Wrapped in the warmth of you Loving every breath of you
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Re: Spiritually sick...how to heal? [Re: MOTH]
#3939272 - 03/19/05 09:18 AM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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"come to starwood and re-create your mind"
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Re: Spiritually sick...how to heal? [Re: fireworks_god]
#3939796 - 03/19/05 12:04 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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Your reply is no surprise to me. Young people generally like hearing the answer that requires them to take the least responsibility. True discipline is often shunned by the young because it is often boring and repetitive. When one can blow off habitual drug use as a "spiritual discipline" then they can delude themselves into thinking that they are disciplined, responsible people when in fact they are justifying quite the opposite. I am not downing drug use totally, but one must accept the wisdom of moderation, and know what moderation is.
-------------------- "A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda
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Re: Spiritually sick...how to heal? [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
#3940358 - 03/19/05 02:46 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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Maybe chronic drug use is a step for some people on a spiritual journey, and it's OK for them to be in that stage, just like it's OK for you to have moved on. And, maybe everyones path isn't the same, so that what worked for you, Huehuecoyotl wouldn't work for others, like fireworks_god.
Personally, I agree with you, Heuheucoyotl, I think most of us younguns use drugs as a cureall for spirituality, when I personally feel they showed me where I then needed to go without them. But, I think other paths are just as good, and when you start to compare your path with others in a judgemental way, you're starting to make another type of spiritual mistake.
I'm 22, BTW.
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Re: Spiritually sick...how to heal? [Re: tomk]
#3940388 - 03/19/05 02:55 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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I find your words very refreshing, i too used to do my fair share of hallucinogens and other substances, until at 20 i met an old hobo traveling hippie, who showed me the full potential of my mind.
Now i have no need for any substances at all, but without having used them my mind would have never been open to the possibilities he introduced me to. So, respect and good luck to all of you following your chosen paths.
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Re: Spiritually sick...how to heal? [Re: tomk]
#3940625 - 03/19/05 03:58 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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Well, I will say that drug use inspired my spiritual beliefs. 15 years of alcoholism forced me to find a way out of my misery. I don't discourage alcohol use by others because alcohol never harmed me...I harmed myself through my irresponsible use of it. I have also engaged in the frivolous use of marijuana and hallucinogens to the point of obsession. I was young and wanted to have lots of intense experiences as many young people here do. This, over time, had a negative effect on my attitude. I realize that not all people are alike, but slow suicide by damaging ones mind and body is only spiritual in that it will get you to the spirit world much faster. It is not OK, though, because with better guidance I would have more quickly realized my potential and spent less time filled with hopelessness and self loathing. Moderation is just a sensible guideline for all people to follow. Moderation is different depending on the individual, but there is a point where moderation ends. By the way, I love the spell check feature they have added it has really improved my spelling lately...found no errors on this one first try.
-------------------- "A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda
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Re: Spiritually sick...how to heal? [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
#3940833 - 03/19/05 04:46 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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Very good . Moderation at some point always ends
-------------------- All you need is Love! Really thats it! Infinite Unconditional Love! Just develop that and all else will fall into place perfectly!
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