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Offlineunearth
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pupils being dilated
    #3927583 - 03/16/05 07:53 PM (19 years, 6 days ago)

is there anyways to get your pupils back to its original size,cause it would be obvios im on something if my pupils are twice the size.My friend says looking a light for a while makes them go down,but what do you guys think

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Re: pupils being dilated [Re: unearth]
    #3927608 - 03/16/05 07:57 PM (19 years, 6 days ago)

i heard big dark sunglasses do the trick :wink:


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Re: pupils being dilated [Re: unearth]
    #3927609 - 03/16/05 07:57 PM (19 years, 6 days ago)

Looking at bright lights is an extremely bad idea. That can actually cause eye damage.

No there is no way to get them to look normal... put on some sunglasses.

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Re: pupils being dilated [Re: unearth]
    #3927963 - 03/16/05 08:57 PM (19 years, 6 days ago)

Its really not as noticeable as you think unless you're experienced with the syndrome and know what you're looking at.

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Re: pupils being dilated [Re: shallow]
    #3928484 - 03/16/05 11:16 PM (19 years, 6 days ago)

Doesn't pot make them smaller?


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Re: pupils being dilated [Re: Grizzy]
    #3928785 - 03/17/05 12:26 AM (19 years, 6 days ago)

no pot makes your eyes red man even worse than big pupils. Meth makes them shrink. but I wouldnt recommend my worst enemy take meth. Opiates make them shrink too I think, but them your all fucked up on that. What about drammamine(diphenhydramine) I seem to remember that my pupils shrunk when I took that forever ago. Which while we are on the subject I strongly discourage anyone to try. Its far from fun. Peace

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Re: pupils being dilated [Re: blaze2]
    #3929463 - 03/17/05 07:50 AM (19 years, 6 days ago)

meth makes your pupils very large.


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Re: pupils being dilated [Re: blaze2]
    #3929603 - 03/17/05 08:42 AM (19 years, 6 days ago)

Quote:

blaze2 said:
no pot makes your eyes red man even worse than big pupils. Meth makes them shrink.




Meth dilates the pupils like shrooms, heroin shrinks them to the size of pinpoints as you said.

I wouldn't recommend taking opiates to shrink your pupils though...

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Re: pupils being dilated [Re: unearth]
    #3929688 - 03/17/05 09:10 AM (19 years, 6 days ago)

sunglasses are the best thing i think. looking at bright lights will constrict the pupils but it can also damage your eyes.

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Re: pupils being dilated [Re: Chikitta]
    #3929761 - 03/17/05 09:34 AM (19 years, 6 days ago)

I knew you COULD use opiates to shrink the size of the pupil, but really, who would do that just to make their eyes look somewhat more normal? :smirk:

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Re: pupils being dilated [Re: HeavyToilet]
    #3930191 - 03/17/05 11:37 AM (19 years, 6 days ago)

"no pot makes your eyes red man even worse than big pupils."

NOT true at all, in any way.
Red eyes are WORSE than big pupils? I don't think so.

Big pupils mean DRUGS, for sure.
Red eyes....could be allergies, right?


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Re: pupils being dilated [Re: shallow]
    #3930226 - 03/17/05 11:47 AM (19 years, 6 days ago)

Quote:

shallow said:
Its really not as noticeable as you think unless you're experienced with the syndrome and know what you're looking at.



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Re: pupils being dilated [Re: Annom]
    #3930477 - 03/17/05 12:50 PM (19 years, 6 days ago)

sorry about the misinformation for meth. I admit I know very little about the drug. anyways does anyone else remember what drammamine did to their eyes? and yes if your still tripping when your pupils are dilated having your eyes red too will definately make them think your stoned. Plus I get wicked red eye so I'm always a little more carefull about that. I never leave home without clear eyes.


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Re: pupils being dilated [Re: blaze2]
    #3948334 - 03/21/05 10:30 AM (19 years, 2 days ago)

Short answer: Yes, with a but.

Long answer: For some reason, my full text won't go through, so I'll summarize here and see if it works. There are a couple miotic (miosis = pupillary constriction) eye drops used by Glaucoma sufferers/post-Lasik surgery that may work, Pilocarpine being the primary drug. Side effects, efficacy and availability are issues, link here for an overview of Pilo:

http://www.drugs.com/xq/cfm/pageid_0/htm...ic/qx/index.htm

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Re: pupils being dilated [Re: biojoe]
    #3948345 - 03/21/05 10:32 AM (19 years, 2 days ago)

Alright, that worked, so I'll try my original post piecemeal:

It's my guess that parasympathomimetic eye drops (primarily Pilocarpine), frequently prescribed post-Lasik Surgery or for Glaucoma sufferers, would work. They're commonly used to constrict pupillary size (= miosis, which is why they're called "miotics" in ophthomology) I've never tried this, but I'll let you know when I do and if it works.

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Re: pupils being dilated [Re: biojoe]
    #3948348 - 03/21/05 10:33 AM (19 years, 2 days ago)

And more:

The drawbacks here would be: increased likelihood of vomiting, diarrhea, sweating (systemic cholinergic stimulation), salivation, eye irritation (redness and itching) and unknown drug interactions with psilocin (unlikely, given their different MOA's, but there's not exactly a lot of literature on this :wink:, the possibility of inefficacy, and the difficulty of obtaining the drug.  Fortunately, the side effects are seen in very few individuals at the dose and frequency of admin that we're talking about.  'Cept for the irritation, which would render the Pilo as useless as Cannabis.

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Re: pupils being dilated [Re: biojoe]
    #3948354 - 03/21/05 10:33 AM (19 years, 2 days ago)

And so on:

Interesting: Our friend the Amanita Muscaria mushroom causes pupillary constriction as part of it's overall muscarinic effects. Nicotine also causes pupillary constriction, but you'd have to smoke too much to make it worthwhile.

All in all, I'd say they're worth a try, despite all the unknowns. The downside is relatively small, as long as you take a cautious approach to the experiment, and do your homework on the drug before you take it. If anyone knows anybody with any experiences in this area, I'd be very interested.

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Re: pupils being dilated [Re: biojoe]
    #3948356 - 03/21/05 10:34 AM (19 years, 2 days ago)

And, finalamente:

Links:

http://www.drugs.com/xq/cfm/pageid_0/htm...ic/qx/index.htm -- Read this for an overview of Pilocarpine, definitely if you plan to try it.

http://www.elmhurst.edu/~chm/vchembook/662cholinergic.html -- A decent, accurate overview of cholinergics.

http://www.animatingapothecary.com/dh2.htm -- Good overall description of the autonomic nervous system, with a section on cholinergics.

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Re: pupils being dilated [Re: biojoe]
    #3948794 - 03/21/05 12:23 PM (19 years, 2 days ago)

May I direct your attention to the [EDIT] button at the top of your
posts? You could easily have put that all into one post.


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Re: pupils being dilated [Re: BloodNOil]
    #3949597 - 03/21/05 03:19 PM (19 years, 2 days ago)

Quote:

does anyone else remember what drammamine did to their eyes?




i think dramamine dialated my eyes i cant remember ever looking in the mirror while on it though so i could be wrong anyways like you said i suggest no one ever take it to trip its a horrible trip nothing euphoric about it i will never do it again


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Re: pupils being dilated [Re: Annom]
    #3963655 - 03/24/05 04:29 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Its important to realise why the pupils dilate - when a person takes a variety of different psychedelics or substances, certain neurotransmitters become overlaoding - making some nerve centres relax while others become overactive.
one of the nerve centres that relaxes is that that controls the pupil. So unless a drug could some how target one particular nerve group and ignore the other already overactive areas, its impossible to stop this reaction.


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