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OfflineMighty Bop
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Drafted!!!!!!!!!!!
    #392712 - 09/12/01 09:17 PM (19 years, 22 days ago)

What would you do if you were drafted? I for one would head for the hills of Canada!



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Re: Drafted!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Mighty Bop]
    #392714 - 09/12/01 09:18 PM (19 years, 22 days ago)

i'm not surprised....most of you on this board are cowards and would just get in the way. I would hope you would stay there as well

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Re: Drafted!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Mighty Bop]
    #392716 - 09/12/01 09:19 PM (19 years, 22 days ago)

if i were drafted i would jump at the chance to get to shoot at an ugly arab. i'd kill me some woman and children, but i wouldnt count them as kills, that wouldnt be fair. Woman would be 1/2 of a kill and children would be 1/3 of a kill.

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Re: Drafted!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: drunkgoat]
    #392744 - 09/12/01 09:46 PM (19 years, 22 days ago)

yeah, most everybody(and basically every moderator but doobie) on this board is a bunch of selfish and pathetic bitches..........they just roll over whenever confronted with trouble and spout their pipe dreams about world peace and how more killing is not the answer.........yet they accept the gifts our country provides them without thinking twice, but run for the hills when their country asks for anythig from them



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Re: Drafted!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Innvertigo]
    #392779 - 09/12/01 10:12 PM (19 years, 22 days ago)

You are such an idiot.

Okay, if I was drafted, it really depends on what I was drafted for. I'd probably go to war. Unless, of course, I was drafted to carry out war upon my own city or something ridiculous.

Calling someone a coward for not wanting to be forced to 1) Risk their own life and 2) possibly kill other human beings is just stupid.

I for one would rather fight the authorities to the death than allow myself to be drafted, forced to leave my country, or face imprisonment. Am I, therefor a coward? Or does that make me a terrorist? Or an outlaw?



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Re: Drafted!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Alone In The Fire]
    #392783 - 09/12/01 10:15 PM (19 years, 22 days ago)

How do you know this about people on this board?



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Re: Drafted!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Alone In The Fire]
    #392805 - 09/12/01 10:39 PM (19 years, 22 days ago)


in reply to:".........yet they accept the gifts our country provides them without thinking twice, but run for the hills when their country asks for anythig from them"

What gifts has the US given its citizens?? ..dont think I was there on that day or something....Did I as a citizen have ANY say in ANY of the conflicts our government involves us in? NO Hell,we(citizens) didnt even really elect our president.....more or less he was chosen for us.......

in reply to: "they just roll over whenever confronted with trouble and spout their pipe dreams about world peace and how more killing is not the answer"

Well killing is not always the answer......But violence breeds violence.....world peace may be just a pipe dream but what can ya do? Unfortunately there will always be people with hate for others

So I for one dont know for sure if i would go if drafted......if it looked like a hopeless slaughter then FUCK NO i wouldnt go......Only time will tell i suppose......As for right now I feel very sorry for what has happened thus far....but still Im torn between deciding if this is my fight or not.....if war started all this i doubt it will end it.............ah well just my two or three maybe even four cents worth for today.........

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Re: Drafted!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Mighty Bop]
    #392830 - 09/12/01 11:01 PM (19 years, 22 days ago)

I don't know how I'd feel if I were drafted. Probably pretty shitty.

I do, however, think it's fucked that only 18 year old males have to sign up. I don't consider myself mysogynistic, but why don't chicks have to sign up? Fuck chivalry, they can take a bullet just as effectively as any man.
Serious question, though, as there would be many types of roles to fill in a true draft situation.
Just bring up that issue if you ever want to get booted out of office!



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Re: Drafted!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Kid]
    #392854 - 09/12/01 11:26 PM (19 years, 22 days ago)

First off there will be no draft. We have more than enough military troops to take out third world country. Second if there was (lets say) another world war it would be fought behind computers, subs, and nukes. There's one fight they would use a draft for. China. 1/3 of the worlds population alone, they have millions of troops compared to our few hundred thousand. It's an honor for them to die, they will not quit. We're fucked!! That why they say "this will not be another vietnam"

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Re: Drafted!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Mighty Bop]
    #392875 - 09/12/01 11:44 PM (19 years, 22 days ago)

i, for one, am going to college and signing up for the ROTC navy nursing corps. of course, i need to finish, and havent even started college yet. but yeah, i guess since i wouldn't be a grunt, i would willingly go to war. but, innvertigo, calling someone a coward for not potentially dying for something they dont believe in, while at the same time killing people they have nothing against, i just dont see any logic behind that, wouldnt they be cowards if they went to the war and fought cause someone told them to? (ever read "the things they carried"? heh, that explains what im talking about much better)



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Re: Drafted!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Alone In The Fire]
    #392883 - 09/12/01 11:48 PM (19 years, 22 days ago)

i for one MIGHT go to war....but you have to understand, people have "roots" where they live...they have children and family that they must tend to

TRIPLE DIPPED!?!?!?!

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Re: Drafted!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Kid]
    #393101 - 09/13/01 07:52 AM (19 years, 22 days ago)

Yeah but your a fucking dork. You'd probably get your ass kicked the first 30 sec. i'm sure if your family was attacked, you'd change your tune.....unless ofcourse you are a coward

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Re: Drafted!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: DazedSol]
    #393107 - 09/13/01 08:08 AM (19 years, 22 days ago)

****What gifts has the US given its citizens?? ****

I think he means the gift of freedom, Which a lot of countries don't offer.

****Did I as a citizen have ANY say in ANY of the conflicts our government involves us in? NO Hell,we(citizens) didnt even really elect our president****

That's why it's called a representative republic.

****Well killing is not always the answer......But violence breeds violence****

Violence also breeds results

***but still Im torn between deciding if this is my fight or not.....if war started all this i doubt it will end it****

That's a very moderate thing to say. If you are an american it is your fight

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Re: Drafted!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: MrKurtz]
    #393110 - 09/13/01 08:14 AM (19 years, 22 days ago)

****innvertigo, calling someone a coward for not potentially dying for something they dont believe in****

I have no problem if people want to leave our country instead of fighting, however, i don't want them coming back into the united states when the war ends like the cowards that dodged the draft in the Vietnam war.

Those that stayed in Canada when they dodged the draft have my respect. Those that came back are cowards

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Re: Drafted!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Mighty Bop]
    #393112 - 09/13/01 08:17 AM (19 years, 22 days ago)

I know that I sure as hell wouldn't put my life on the line fighting a war that I don't support for a system that is partly to blame. If this makes me a coward in some of your eyes, then that's the way it is. The way I see it, not following your beliefs and standing true to yourself is cowardly.

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Re: Drafted!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Phyl]
    #393121 - 09/13/01 08:31 AM (19 years, 22 days ago)

so you're saying that we deserved to be attcked by terrorists then eh?...since it's our fault and all....

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Re: Drafted!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Innvertigo]
    #393131 - 09/13/01 08:45 AM (19 years, 22 days ago)

Not at all. Nobody deserves to be attacked by terrorists. I'm saying that the reasons for the attack aren't black and white, and I don't think America is 100% blameless.



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Re: Drafted!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Phyl]
    #393190 - 09/13/01 10:34 AM (19 years, 22 days ago)

I can't believe you can put blame on the US and the people that were killed. That's sick. Some issues are black and white. Nothing can justify the killing of them people and you should be ashamed of yourself for saying that we are partly to blame.

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Re: Drafted!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Harry_Ballsonia]
    #393194 - 09/13/01 10:41 AM (19 years, 22 days ago)

If we have a ground war and need more ground troops than we'de have volunteers I would support a conscription to service.

Folks, this may be a long hard fight to capture and occupy Afghanistan and we may take considerable casulties. But if it's necessary to make our mainland safe then I support it.

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Re: Drafted!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Harry_Ballsonia]
    #393197 - 09/13/01 10:46 AM (19 years, 22 days ago)

Harry,

I'm not condoning the attacks in any way. I'm simply pointing out that whoever carried out the attacks had a reason to do so, no matter how twisted and mislead.

America is not an angel. Your foreign policies contribute to a lot of suffering for a lot of people and (Assuming it was middle eastern terrorists) they want revenge for this, just as you want revenge for the WTC attack.

To you it may be black and white - the terrorists are the enemy, but to the terrorists it's also black and white - You are the enemy. Look at the bigger picture, and you'll see it's a very complex situation.

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Re: Drafted!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Phyl]
    #393209 - 09/13/01 11:10 AM (19 years, 22 days ago)

I'm simply pointing out that whoever carried out the attacks had a reason

Who cares what they're reason is. It's still not our fault that they have done this. No matter how much you want to blame the American people.

America is not an angel. Your foreign policies contribute to a lot of suffering for a lot of people

Wow, and this is coming from a person that lives in a country that has made many more people around the world suffer as a result of your (Not-so great Britian) elitest attitude. I agree that we haven't done everything perfectly but we have tried and done more for the world than any other country. Our foreign policies i admit should be changed. Changed to more of an isolationist country.

To you it may be black and white - the terrorists are the enemy

And you find them justifiable?

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Re: Drafted!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Harry_Ballsonia]
    #393220 - 09/13/01 11:31 AM (19 years, 22 days ago)

Harry,

You're making so much more of my words than is intended. I'm not condoning the attacks, I'm not blaming the american people in the slightest and I'm not justifying the terrorists.

There ARE reasons why this attack happened. Whoever attacked America obviously believed very strongly that they were doing the right thing. If you are ever going to overcome the terrorists, you need to find out why they think like this and what their problems with America are.

By reducing to situation to 'black and white' or 'good vs evil', you are preventing any real progress by adopting a similar mindset to the terrorists. This is something that our country has learned through many years of continuous terrorist attack.

Take care



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Re: Drafted!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Phyl]
    #393407 - 09/13/01 03:43 PM (19 years, 21 days ago)

I for one, love my family and country too much to allow them to be threatened. If there is the need to extra men, I will gladly sign up to protect my family, my country and every citizen in it!


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Re: Drafted!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Innvertigo]
    #393492 - 09/13/01 05:39 PM (19 years, 21 days ago)

> Yeah but your a fucking dork. You'd probably get your ass kicked the first 30 sec.

You make stupid comments like this and still have the audacity to call people close-minded, and ignorant. Maybe I am a nerd, but that doesn't affect my life expectancy in war. A gun, or a mortal, or napalm, or a bomb will kick my ass just as quickly as it would kick ANY other human being's ass.

> i'm sure if your family was attacked, you'd change your tune

Previously I stated:
"Okay, if I was drafted, it really depends on what I was drafted for. I'd probably go to war. Unless, of course, I was drafted to carry out war upon my own city or something ridiculous."

Where does it say there that I wouldn't fight if my family were being attacked? Maybe you've never read any of my posts before, but the idea of a war kind of thrills me. And, BTW, my family is about the one thing that I would defend to the death.

> unless ofcourse you are a coward

Very good Innvertigo.





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Americans will die in vain. [Re: Anonymous]
    #393523 - 09/13/01 06:24 PM (19 years, 21 days ago)

If there is war war as you selfish Americans wish. You will suffer more on your homeland and in the battlefield. I am a veteran front line guerilla fighter. I fought off the Soviet invaders at the height of their power. You Americans with no experience on holy battlefields would be smitten by the rightious force of Allah and the judgement of my AK-47.

I didn't attack that wretched building. Richard Jewel was the main suspect in the Olymyic bombing. You make a scapegoat of my people and if we are attacked I shall once again lead my people on the battlefield and drive you out just as the russians were, bleeding and dieing all the way.

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Re: Drafted!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Kid]
    #393745 - 09/13/01 10:33 PM (19 years, 21 days ago)

****You make stupid comments like this and still have the audacity to call people close-minded****

No it's more like confidence

****Maybe I am a nerd, but that doesn't affect my life expectancy in war. ****

There is no maybe...this my friend is a fact. You wouldn't last 30 sec because your own fellow canadians would probably shoot you in the back.

****but the idea of a war kind of thrills me. ****

Nerds do dream don't they

****Very good Innvertigo****

thanks

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Re: Drafted!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Innvertigo]
    #393801 - 09/13/01 11:35 PM (19 years, 21 days ago)

eh, and your mister 6'5" 250 pounds of muscle with nerves of steel? no one is a "perfect soldier". but anyone can fight a war. i dont see what would make you a better soldier then Kid... maybe you have some practice at a shooting range, but i dont really think that has anything to do with the chaos of combat. If you are saying you wouldn't lose your nerves in your first attack... you know jack shit about war, and maybe try getting some info from people who actually lived through them and aren't afraid to tell the truth. Everyones got a killer inside them, part of our survival, its just left repressed and never used in the civilized world.



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Re: Drafted!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: MrKurtz]
    #393815 - 09/13/01 11:47 PM (19 years, 21 days ago)

ok i don't feel anyone has the right to say who wouldn't or would kick some arab ass, but the fact of the matter is that breast feedng is a sick parlor trick woven by the devil himself

first u get the money, then u get the Weemen!
Wee men? what the hell are u talking about!
i said woman; no u didn't man!

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Re: Drafted!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: MrKurtz]
    #394070 - 09/14/01 08:01 AM (19 years, 21 days ago)

well i'm not 6'-5" nor 250lbs...what is that supposed to mean?

****If you are saying you wouldn't lose your nerves in your first attack... you know jack shit about war****

well i was in Panama and the persian gulf war (8 years ARMY) so i can assure you i can handle myself. What do you know about war litlle man? Besides the little action figures you play with?


****maybe you have some practice at a shooting range, but i dont really think that has anything to do with the chaos of combat****

Well i do have practice at a range..the ARMY range. and It has everything to do with the "chaos" of war

****and maybe try getting some info from people who actually lived through them and aren't afraid to tell the truth. ****

well every war that has happened in the united states from before the first world war involved one of my family members: WW1, WW2, Korean, Vietnam etc. So maybe it is you that need this info you are dying for.

****Everyones got a killer inside them****

no they don't..some people are natural born pussies.

****its just left repressed and never used in the civilized world****

what are you a psychologist?...a bad one at that



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Re: Drafted!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Mighty Bop]
    #394170 - 09/14/01 11:58 AM (19 years, 20 days ago)

I would not have a problem serving. I just don't think right now we have anyone to fight. When we have singled out a clear enemy,of course I would serve.



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Re: Drafted!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: weezer]
    #394206 - 09/14/01 12:50 PM (19 years, 20 days ago)

i don't know why we are talking draft when it's this early. I really hope there isn't one but if there was i'd do my american duty

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Re: Drafted!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Innvertigo]
    #394341 - 09/14/01 03:52 PM (19 years, 20 days ago)

well, you cant compare the persian gulf war to any other war really.. there were about 500 americans killed? for a war, thats a joke.

"no they don't..some people are natural born pussies."

eh, and you know this for a fact? that goes completely against the need for survival, everyone has adrenaline after all. hell, ive watched high school kids you would probably call "pussies" almost beat 2 people to death over a football game. people are natural killers.. just like every other animal.

"well every war that has happened in the united states from before the first world war involved one of my family members: WW1, WW2, Korean, Vietnam etc. So maybe it is you that need this info you are dying for."

my great grandfather was a captain in the polish underground during WW2, my grandfather was a jewish boy running with his mother from nazis after seeing german soldiers kill his sister and father, my father served 6 years in the army and excelled in officer school, ive known a few vietnam veterans (they are all fucked up really bad), and i myself am entering NROTC (if i dont get drafted, heh). ive read a bunch of books on war, written by veterans, and from what ive learned, panama and the persian gulf dont even come close to a real war. fighting as an american in those wars is about as dangerous as getting in barfights every week.




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Re: Drafted!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Innvertigo]
    #394399 - 09/14/01 04:58 PM (19 years, 20 days ago)

> Well i do have practice at a range..the ARMY range. and It has everything to do with the "chaos" of war

Very good. I've had practice firing weapons on an army range as well. I'm such a good soldier.

You are such an idiot trying to say that it's a fact that I'd die in 30 seconds in a war. I can't believe the stupidity that pour out of you.



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Re: Drafted!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Kid]
    #394476 - 09/14/01 06:20 PM (19 years, 20 days ago)

How's Canada's weather this time of year anyway?



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Re: Drafted!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Mighty Bop]
    #394504 - 09/14/01 06:56 PM (19 years, 20 days ago)

It's still pretty warm. It was nice clear skies today. A bit windy on campus. Cool enough for shorts. Gets pretty cold at nights though.



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Re: Drafted!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: MrKurtz]
    #395221 - 09/15/01 05:34 PM (19 years, 19 days ago)

****well, you cant compare the persian gulf war to any other war really.. *****

I agree. However i can explain how it is the closet and most accurate out of a majority of the people on this site. Rememeber what you saw on CNN during the war wasn't a 100% accurate

***eh, and you know this for a fact? ***

Maybe i shouldn't use the word pussies...maybe it should be more like passive people that refuse to fight..and they are out there. Some even join the army and are shocked when they are asked to fight...there were a couple in our company.

ive watched high school kids you would probably call "pussies" almost beat 2 people to death over a football game. people are natural killers.. just like every other animal.****

Not really there is a difference between fighting a war and a football game. We are not animals so your argument is irrelavent.

Why are you going into NROTC? It was funny when we'd get a ROTC guy in our company and he'd try to give orders to senior NCO's (I was an E-6). We would just laugh at him and put him in the back of the hum-v and tell him to be quiet and pay attention. Nice guy though i kind of liked him. Your families history sounds pretty interesting i haven't studied my family past the 1st WW

****and from what ive learned, panama and the persian gulf dont even come close to a real war. fighting as an american in those wars is about as dangerous as getting in barfights every week.****

From what you learned, you were mistaken. The persian gulf set the stage for how future wars will be fought. There is no honor in fighting hand-to-hand when you don't have to. But i cannot compare it with the Vietnam war..that was a different war.


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Re: Drafted!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Kid]
    #395227 - 09/15/01 05:38 PM (19 years, 19 days ago)

****Very good. I've had practice firing weapons on an army range as well. I'm such a good soldier****

There's more to it then firing a weapon. But i guess you knew that

****You are such an idiot trying to say that it's a fact that I'd die in 30 seconds in a war****

I would say i was a truthful idiot.

Kid you are a prime example of a human contradiction who thinks with no thought.

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Re: Drafted!!!!!!!!!!! *DELETED* *DELETED* [Re: Innvertigo]
    #395305 - 09/15/01 07:24 PM (19 years, 19 days ago)

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Re: Drafted!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Agliarondian]
    #395393 - 09/15/01 09:18 PM (19 years, 19 days ago)

well said. Just so people know you don't have to be in the military to be a "Good American" or even a strong person. All you have to do is do what it takes to defend your own country and not be like the cock roaches that scurry when the light comes on

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Re: Drafted!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Innvertigo]
    #395521 - 09/16/01 01:13 AM (19 years, 19 days ago)

"From what you learned, you were mistaken. The persian gulf set the stage for how future wars will be fought. There is no honor in fighting hand-to-hand when you don't have to. But i cannot compare it with the Vietnam war..that was a different war."

well, yes it was a "futuristic war", but i didnt mention that almost 50% of american casualties were from friendly fire.. it was just a massacre. but hell, this will be most likely a massacre to, no one in there right mind will help them out like the USSR helped the viet cong.

"Not really there is a difference between fighting a war and a football game. We are not animals so your argument is irrelavent."

well, some people think we are animals, im one of them. if we cant agree on that point, then yes, my argument is irrelevant. i wasnt comparing a war to a football game.. just saying those people probably would have killed those 2 kids if it wasn't broken up.

"Why are you going into NROTC? It was funny when we'd get a ROTC guy in our company and he'd try to give orders to senior NCO's (I was an E-6). We would just laugh at him and put him in the back of the hum-v and tell him to be quiet and pay attention. Nice guy though i kind of liked him. Your families history sounds pretty interesting i haven't studied my family past the 1st WW"

well, the navy has a serious shortage of capable medics (or nurses, heh) and i think i should help out. also, it looks good on your resume. as for my families history, thanks, i do think its quite interesting also.

"Maybe i shouldn't use the word pussies...maybe it should be more like passive people that refuse to fight..and they are out there. Some even join the army and are shocked when they are asked to fight...there were a couple in our company. "

well, the wars you mentioned the soldiers werent in too much danger (of course they could have died much easier then any civilian, but still hardly any americans died). if you arent really afraid for your life, and dont want to fight, why would you?



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Re: Drafted!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Mighty Bop]
    #396449 - 09/17/01 05:51 AM (19 years, 18 days ago)

Number one if any of you have done acid the military won't take you. Number two, the military won't take you if you have ever taken ritalin...

Two wrongs don't make a right. Killing more innocent people is not the answer.

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Re: Drafted!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Felstorm]
    #396480 - 09/17/01 07:56 AM (19 years, 18 days ago)

ah...ok whatever. Have a nice day and thanks for your 1 cent

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Re: Drafted!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Felstorm]
    #396516 - 09/17/01 09:36 AM (19 years, 18 days ago)

#1 incorrect. (You don't have to tell them you retard)
#2 incorrect. (Again you don't have to tell them, though I suspect if you're being prescribed Ritalen for severe ADD the military wouldn't take you).
#3 You're an idiot.



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Re: Drafted!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Kid]
    #397834 - 09/18/01 11:12 PM (19 years, 16 days ago)

yeah, if you dont tell them about your drug history they cant do anything about it. but they wont take you if you have a prescription for ritalin or prozac. its not very hard to get into the army when they need people... im sure if things get bad enough they would start drafting homeless crackheads, heh.



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Re: Drafted!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Felstorm]
    #397843 - 09/18/01 11:22 PM (19 years, 16 days ago)

Oh my God, who is this idiot that thinks the military won't take you if you've ever dropped acid? I used to eat that shit like candy and I got into the military just fine. In fact a few MOS' encourage a little shady background. Now it is true that if you have any kind of drug waiver you don't have a chance in hell of becoming a pilot but that's about it.



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Re: Drafted!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Lucid420]
    #397852 - 09/18/01 11:32 PM (19 years, 16 days ago)

I have a question about how they would pick people for drafting. I will go and fight, since I live here in America, if I am drafted, but if a person has a psychological profile that isn't "pretty", will the Army still draft you (me)? Psychosis, ADD, OCD, impulsive some other shit.

:frown: I believe in Mr. Grieves ! Also, everything in the above post is entirely fictional, like PC !


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Re: Drafted!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: CACA]
    #397967 - 09/19/01 01:25 AM (19 years, 16 days ago)

The military won't take anyone who is psychotic. You have a history of psychosis? No, I doubt they'd take you.

AFAIK, the USA would be drafting 18 year olds.



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Re: Drafted!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Kid]
    #397991 - 09/19/01 02:08 AM (19 years, 16 days ago)

I have a history of psychosis, yes. I was certain they wouldn't. There are so many retarded old people living near where I live. They said the Army would want people like me, because I would, "..kill more people 'cause you're crazy." Stupidity, anyone..?

:frown: I believe in Mr. Grieves ! Also, everything in the above post is entirely fictional, like PC !


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Re: Drafted!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: CACA]
    #398052 - 09/19/01 08:32 AM (19 years, 16 days ago)

you won't be drafted. we have plenty of people in the reserves and the national guard. I wouldn't worry about it. But if they did start the draft they would first take those that are on inactive reserves first with prior military experience (people are really in the military for 8 years but if you serve 4 years you are 4 years active 4 years innactive) then they would start looking at the 18 year olds. take a deeeeeeep breath smoke a joint and relax.

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