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Which Book To Get ?/Pihkal OR Tihkal
    #3924219 - 03/16/05 03:42 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Whats a better read , i mainly want the one with more views on organic chem like synthesis etc . thanks you


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Re: Which Book To Get ?/Pihkal OR Tihkal [Re: liveby]
    #3924223 - 03/16/05 03:45 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Check parts of them out:
Pihkal Tihkal

I think Wiccan Seeker's signature may have links to the full books.


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Re: Which Book To Get ?/Pihkal OR Tihkal [Re: liveby]
    #3924240 - 03/16/05 03:54 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Get them both! Your really must have them in your drug book collection!


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Re: Which Book To Get ?/Pihkal OR Tihkal [Re: Annom]
    #3924485 - 03/16/05 07:52 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I'm a couple hundred pages into TIKHAL. Which is the second in ther series (my parents got the wrong one for X-mas). To be perfectly honest, I cannot recall from where exactly, but I've heard that PIHKAL, is the better of the two.

I'm no chemist, and I've only briefly looked at some of the "recipes" in these books, however, I'm under the impression you would need some professional chemistry experience and equipment in order to produce anything. I'm sure others would be better able to comment on that though.


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Re: Which Book To Get ?/Pihkal OR Tihkal [Re: liveby]
    #3924592 - 03/16/05 09:42 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Tihkal is the better book to get.

It is not only the chemical history of the phenylethylamines but uit is also the autobiography of Sasha and Ann Shulgin and also has a great chapter of a lecture at a college on the stupidity of drug laws.

mjshroomer. The tryptamine n book has a lot of i unknow research on trytamines and not a klot on psilocine/[psilocybine. But both are greeat books. I really enjoyed Pihkal more then the other.

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Re: Which Book To Get ?/Pihkal OR Tihkal [Re: mjshroomer]
    #3974673 - 03/27/05 01:12 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

i sugest pihkal. phenethylamines are sexy as hell. tryptamines are scarry as hell =)


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Re: Which Book To Get ?/Pihkal OR Tihkal [Re: S8N]
    #3975475 - 03/27/05 10:27 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Both of them are on Erowid for free. Or..at least the majority of the print version.


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Re: Which Book To Get ?/Pihkal OR Tihkal [Re: rdnp2035]
    #3975905 - 03/27/05 02:02 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Id say get both..

Or get PIHKAL then TIHKAL


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Re: Which Book To Get ?/Pihkal OR Tihkal [Re: Legoulash]
    #3975947 - 03/27/05 02:35 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Yo badchad i am also a couple hundred pages into TiHKAL. I'm in the chapter "The Intensive". Both books are amazing.

Yes, you would need to be deeply into chemistry to understand the synthesis of the tryptamines and phenethylamines in the second halves of the books. BUT get them both now, and read them completely. You won't regret it. Ann is an excellent writer and Sasha is a genius.


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Re: Which Book To Get ?/Pihkal OR Tihkal [Re: liveby]
    #3976050 - 03/27/05 03:16 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

both.

I'm only about half way through reading pihkal, but its awesome.


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