Home | Community | Message Board


Sporeworks
Please support our sponsors.

Mushrooms, Mycology and Psychedelics >> The Psychedelic Experience

Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Jump to first unread post. Pages: 1 | 2 | Next >  [ show all ]
Offlineunearth
Stranger
Registered: 03/09/05
Posts: 260
Last seen: 10 years, 6 months
do mushrooms make you forget a lot of stuff like pot does
    #3921064 - 03/15/05 03:04 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

also does pot kill brain cells, and my friends brother was saying how when he started to smoke pot he got a lot higher grades in school when he didnt try any harder,do you find this true.my friend also is like shrooms kill your brain cells like pot but i dont even think pot kills your brain cells based on my friends brothers and many others stories


Edited by unearth (03/15/05 03:06 PM)


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Invisibledblaney
Human Being

Registered: 10/03/04
Posts: 7,894
Loc: Here & Now
Re: do mushrooms make you forget a lot of stuff like pot does [Re: unearth]
    #3921144 - 03/15/05 03:24 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Pot doesn't kill brain cells; mushrooms don't kill brain cells. Pot does cause short term memory iterference with some people. Good for your friends brother, there are an vastly excessive number of apathetic airhead potheads.


--------------------
"What is in us that turns a deaf ear to the cries of human suffering?"

"Belief is a beautiful armor
But makes for the heaviest sword"
- John Mayer

Making the noise "penicillin" is no substitute for actually taking penicillin.

"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it." -Abraham Lincoln


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineTadpole
Stranger

Registered: 11/20/04
Posts: 184
Last seen: 7 years, 9 months
Re: do mushrooms make you forget a lot of stuff like pot does [Re: unearth]
    #3921154 - 03/15/05 03:27 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

www.erowid.org - Check it out.

You are right. Neither cannabis or mushrooms kill brain cells. Link

And I'm pretty sure mushrooms don't affect your short time memory. It's not really an issue anyway since you can't use them that often.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineJazzMatazz
addict

Registered: 09/07/02
Posts: 770
Loc: Vienna, Austria
Last seen: 2 years, 1 month
Re: do mushrooms make you forget a lot of stuff like pot does [Re: Tadpole]
    #3921522 - 03/15/05 05:07 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

I third that! With pot you have the problem of you brains sell "going to sleep" and finding a general demotivation in life, when doing it a lot. As a consequence you dont learn, develope(at a minor age)or follow your tasks in life anymore. In effect that kind of hinders you from getting smarter. But taking now as 100%, you will not go below that chronically. someone not doing pot might get over the 100% a lot faster than you when not doing it.
Although shrooms havent been tested all that deeply in recent times, I dont see any problems with my brain from shrooms. It can , like all drugs(weed included) trigger psychosises which are already somewhere inside you.
Hope that helped!


--------------------
Perception is limited to consciousness.Expand it and unfold other realities.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinedelta9
Active Ingredient
Male Arcade Champion: Plumber

Registered: 10/29/04
Posts: 5,390
Loc: California
Last seen: 6 years, 1 month
Re: do mushrooms make you forget a lot of stuff like pot does [Re: JazzMatazz]
    #3921585 - 03/15/05 05:20 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Cite a source about this brain cell "going to sleep" bull crap, please.

Marijuana works by stimulating cannabinoid receptors in your brain - that is, making your brain cells "more awake".


--------------------
delta9


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinealsey
meet me in thedreamtimewater...

Registered: 02/17/05
Posts: 1,203
Last seen: 7 years, 8 months
Re: do mushrooms make you forget a lot of stuff like pot does [Re: unearth]
    #3921613 - 03/15/05 05:30 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

long term effects vary depending on the person. a lot of people (including myself) notice short term memory loss, decreased motivation and decreased attention span. some people will notice very little or nothing at all.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineJazzMatazz
addict

Registered: 09/07/02
Posts: 770
Loc: Vienna, Austria
Last seen: 2 years, 1 month
Re: do mushrooms make you forget a lot of stuff like pot does [Re: alsey]
    #3921843 - 03/15/05 06:22 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

@delta9: Well, I cant cite it I admit. But alsey seconds me, that it doesnt make you more awake. Question: On what go you run a mile faster a blunt or amphetamine? You might think about running it and discuss the pros and the cons on the blunt, but by that time ive overlapped you ten times! - Saying it makes your mind more awake is simply wrong.


--------------------
Perception is limited to consciousness.Expand it and unfold other realities.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinealsey
meet me in thedreamtimewater...

Registered: 02/17/05
Posts: 1,203
Last seen: 7 years, 8 months
Re: do mushrooms make you forget a lot of stuff like pot does [Re: JazzMatazz]
    #3921862 - 03/15/05 06:27 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

i do find weed very thought provoking; perhaps thats what delta9 means by your brain cells being more awake. when i'm stoned i think about all kinds of stuff and i sometimes get artistic urges. kind of like what i get on shrooms but to a much lesser extent. what i can't do when stoned is do any work that requires a lot of concentration.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinedelta9
Active Ingredient
Male Arcade Champion: Plumber

Registered: 10/29/04
Posts: 5,390
Loc: California
Last seen: 6 years, 1 month
Re: do mushrooms make you forget a lot of stuff like pot does [Re: JazzMatazz]
    #3921884 - 03/15/05 06:34 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Ha, I've ran sub five minute miles high off my ass - what the hell does running a mile have to do with your mind being awake or asleep?

Saying it effects everyone the same way it effects you is simply wrong.


--------------------
delta9


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinerdnp2035
Stranger

Registered: 03/08/04
Posts: 408
Last seen: 10 years, 4 months
Re: do mushrooms make you forget a lot of stuff like pot does [Re: delta9]
    #3921910 - 03/15/05 06:41 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

In my experience mushrooms seriously enhance your memory. Given the cercumstances of a calm trip..you'll remember things you've completely forgotten about, from visual details of a past scene, to deep heavy stuff.
Then it will slip away again.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineJazzMatazz
addict

Registered: 09/07/02
Posts: 770
Loc: Vienna, Austria
Last seen: 2 years, 1 month
Re: do mushrooms make you forget a lot of stuff like pot does [Re: unearth]
    #3921932 - 03/15/05 06:47 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

@alsey: Yeah, you brought it absolutely on point. Sorry delta9, didnt figure you meant it that way.


--------------------
Perception is limited to consciousness.Expand it and unfold other realities.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineSk8orDie
Stranger
Registered: 03/09/05
Posts: 25
Last seen: 11 years, 7 months
Re: do mushrooms make you forget a lot of stuff like pot does [Re: JazzMatazz]
    #3922176 - 03/15/05 07:56 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

From what I've read, smoking marijuana TEMPORARILY hinders your short term memory. It doesn't kill any brain cells and if you stop smoking your short term memory comes back. In teenagers, smoking pot has been shown to decrease motivation in some people. I currently go to Cornell University (an ivy and pretty hard school) smoke on a daily basis and am doing just as well as my friends that don't smoke. Actually, last year i only smoked a few times a week and did worse than this year smoking daily. Don't believe anyone that tells you pot makes you dumb. Depends on the person. Me and my friends were talking and decided it's actually possible to do better if you smoke weed. One, because it's a reward to finish all your work and two, because no one wants to say they fucked up cuz of weed, so are more likely to try harder. At least that's how we tend to work.


--------------------


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinelackobreath
Cannabis Man
Registered: 01/27/05
Posts: 517
Last seen: 10 years, 6 months
Re: do mushrooms make you forget a lot of stuff like pot does [Re: Sk8orDie]
    #3922314 - 03/15/05 08:29 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

i agree with delta and s8ordie.. enough with the talk of pot hurting your brain functions...

some people smoke weed and let their minds go to shit...but that is the individual at work, not the drug. personally, i haven't smoked weed for about a month or so now, and i find that my short term memory has been suffering lately, where as when i was smoking i didn't have a problem. i must admit that i've been diagnosed with add and have no prescription treatment though, and the pot has helped me with that.

i've only heard of one lab experiment to really test if pot kills brain cells, and you'll find that the tests were utterly corrupt. basically, to sum it up, they killed monkeys and examined their brains, they then proceeded to suffocate other monkeys with marijuana smoke, then analyze their brains and compare the first monkeys to the second monkeys... turns out the monkeys who were suffocated had some severe brain damage, and people interpreted that to mean that the pot killed the monkeys brain cells. the fact of the matter is that oxygen deprivation kills brain cells, not marijuana. read a little about it here: http://www.jackherer.com/chapter15.html


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinecherokee
tennis shoes
Male User Gallery

Registered: 10/25/02
Posts: 41,391
Loc: Nationwide Flag
Last seen: 5 months, 25 days
Re: do mushrooms make you forget a lot of stuff like pot does [Re: JazzMatazz]
    #3922868 - 03/15/05 10:26 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Actually endocannabinoids participate in retrograde signaling, which in short means a decrease in the production of GABA(an inhibitory neurotransmitter). 

If I'm correct, I believe marijuana affects the transformation of short term memories to long term memory storage.  Which would explain why we often forget what we did while stoned until a buddy reminds us :wink:  Also our brain's ability to recall information is greatly enchanced if you are in the same state of mind you were in during the initial event, this is called state dependent learning.  That's why when you study high, you gotta take the test high :smile:


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinebrowndustin
dustybuddy

Registered: 10/03/03
Posts: 2,957
Last seen: 2 years, 7 months
Re: do mushrooms make you forget a lot of stuff like pot does [Re: cherokee]
    #3924226 - 03/16/05 03:46 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Pick up a copy of scientific america, brother. Nothing goes to sleep.

You should also try a little harder to cite your posts if you're unclear. Not trying to be a dink, but rather stop the spread of propaganda and speculation.


--------------------
When the stress burns my brain it's like acid raindrops
maryjane is the only thing that makes the pain stop


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineFirstAvailable
enthusiast
 User Gallery

Registered: 02/14/04
Posts: 728
Last seen: 2 years, 2 months
Re: do mushrooms make you forget a lot of stuff like pot does [Re: delta9]
    #3924313 - 03/16/05 04:53 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

What about the relationship to the anandemide receptor? Doesn't anandimide control, among other things, the sleep response?

Could bonding to the anandimide receptor explain why some people get sleepy on pot, just like the munchies?


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinedelta9
Active Ingredient
Male Arcade Champion: Plumber

Registered: 10/29/04
Posts: 5,390
Loc: California
Last seen: 6 years, 1 month
Re: do mushrooms make you forget a lot of stuff like pot does [Re: FirstAvailable]
    #3924358 - 03/16/05 05:59 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

*anandamide

???


--------------------
delta9


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineGinseng1
Elegant Universe
 User Gallery

Registered: 09/02/04
Posts: 3,310
Last seen: 2 years, 2 months
Re: do mushrooms make you forget a lot of stuff like pot does [Re: delta9]
    #3925454 - 03/16/05 02:57 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

do mushrooms make you forget a lot of stuff like pot does


-no

If anything it makes you remember things. Like past hidden memories, and the truth that we are all one, and in death we return to the state of oneness and the infinite.


--------------------
Flowing through beginningless time since time without beginning...


Edited by Ginseng1 (03/16/05 02:58 PM)


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineFirstAvailable
enthusiast
 User Gallery

Registered: 02/14/04
Posts: 728
Last seen: 2 years, 2 months
Re: do mushrooms make you forget a lot of stuff like pot does [Re: delta9]
    #3925586 - 03/16/05 03:30 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

delta9 said:
*anandamide

???




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anandamide


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineSk8orDie
Stranger
Registered: 03/09/05
Posts: 25
Last seen: 11 years, 7 months
Re: do mushrooms make you forget a lot of stuff like pot does [Re: cherokee]
    #3925606 - 03/16/05 03:35 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Smoker For Peace said:
That's why when you study high, you gotta take the test high :smile:




hahahaha


--------------------


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Jump to top. Pages: 1 | 2 | Next >  [ show all ]

Mushrooms, Mycology and Psychedelics >> The Psychedelic Experience

Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Mushroom dreaming - Lots more info tomk 1,339 15 12/19/04 11:01 PM
by tomk
* Mushrooms/LSD and what are they like?
( 1 2 all )
Hitman203 3,927 30 04/25/06 10:25 PM
by incubaby_421
* poll about cultivation of pot vs. cultivation of mushrooms
( 1 2 all )
ShroomBoarder 5,241 36 02/17/03 09:54 PM
by _MarsBars_
* LSA Vs. Mushrooms? Gr33nTree73 4,869 15 03/25/07 10:38 AM
by Gr33nTree73
* Mushroom jack843 585 18 02/06/09 04:08 PM
by Modizu
* Pot is getting trippier after mushies BosCube 1,945 18 11/02/05 06:32 PM
by stemmer
* NEW TO MUSHROOMS budbro 837 16 11/17/08 05:31 PM
by Jitsu
* I hate pot. Will I like shrooms?!
( 1 2 3 all )
fIsh in my head 6,679 55 08/13/10 12:26 AM
by Cracka_X

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: psilocybinjunkie, Asante, Rose, sui, karode13, LSDreamer
5,332 topic views. 7 members, 240 guests and 25 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Toggle Favorite | Print Topic | Stats ]
Search this thread:
Phytoextractum
Please support our sponsors.

Copyright 1997-2016 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.066 seconds spending 0.006 seconds on 16 queries.