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Invisiblewynzlo
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WTF did I do to my PC?
    #3919057 - 03/15/05 02:23 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Before any brutal criticism for being an idiot, I should mention that I already feel like a complete moron so it's not necessary.  :fork:

During a conversation with my roommate I loaded some karo jars and syringes into the the PC and turned the stove burner on as per usual. I noticed after about 20 minutes that the pressure was hardly rising at all. I took it off the burner, flipped the pressure release valve to rescrew the posts in case the lid was on wrong...no steam came out. Yup, I forgot to add the water.

I added the normal 1/2"-1" of water and put it back on the burner. I heard a pop a few minutes later and steam started coming out of the nut on top of the lid, which now has an empty hole straight through. The pressure had barely risen when it happened, so it must have been the dry run that caused it.

Though I'd like to buy a nice new American PC I can't afford it right now. If anyone knows how I can fix it up I would greatly appreciate the help. :thanx:

This is an old All American 910...





PS: Sorry if this is the wrong forum for this post but I figured you guys would know best.


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    #3919091 - 03/15/05 02:29 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: WTF did I do to my PC? [Re: wynzlo]
    #3919111 - 03/15/05 02:36 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

That is an old style AA one time pop/off safety valve.

You can either replace it with the newer rubber one ($3.50 + s/h), or buy another pressure release toggle valve ($15.50 + s/h)& screw it in the hole.

Do a google search for parts.


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Re: WTF did I do to my PC? [Re: Hotnuts]
    #3919121 - 03/15/05 02:37 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

You might be right but I get the impression that American PC's rarely need to be chucked. I found this in a parts listing:

https://store.wafco.com/ezmerchant/products.nsf/ItemMasterLookup/p36?OpenDocument

Thing is, I'm not sure what was filling that hole previously. There is some melted black crap on the bottom which could have been that little rubber piece.


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Re: WTF did I do to my PC? [Re: Hotnuts]
    #3919128 - 03/15/05 02:40 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

See if the old pop/off will unthread & if you can remove it. It should. You can replace it with the newer one you found. Also - see if thread is the same as the relief toggle. If so, replace it with another relief toggle. Costs more, but lasts a lot longer. Relief toggle releases around 24 / 26 pounds.


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Re: WTF did I do to my PC? [Re: wynzlo]
    #3919145 - 03/15/05 02:42 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

That's my bad. I just noticed it. That's what that part is for. If it were to go overboard on the steam pressure, 22-25 psi. That will blow out before the lid goes through the roof. LOL


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Re: WTF did I do to my PC? [Re: agar]
    #3919181 - 03/15/05 02:49 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks agar, that's exactly what I was hoping for. You're saying that I can simply replace the little rubber thing (which obviously bites it if the pressure gets too high) OR replace it with the release valve instead? I couldn't find anything about a toggle valve...

Does that look like #68 & #69 to you?

https://store.wafco.com/ezMerchant/produ...acement%20Parts


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Edited by wynzlo (03/15/05 02:53 AM)


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Re: WTF did I do to my PC? [Re: Hotnuts]
    #3919220 - 03/15/05 02:57 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Sorry about that. Mine is a little different.


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Re: WTF did I do to my PC? [Re: wynzlo]
    #3919274 - 03/15/05 03:09 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

LOOK......... HERE:


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Re: WTF did I do to my PC? [Re: agar]
    #3919284 - 03/15/05 03:13 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

I gotta say it. You guys are the bomb. Kudos for rescuing a PC I would've thought had to be chunked.


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Re: WTF did I do to my PC? [Re: Mages]
    #3919324 - 03/15/05 03:23 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks again agar. I apologize if this is a dumb question as I'm a but overtired right now, but you're saying that as long as it's the same thread I should just add a second release valve since it won't blow out again like the rubber piece?

The PC already has one on it but I never thought to use it to regulate pressure...I just used the stove knob.


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Re: WTF did I do to my PC? [Re: wynzlo]
    #3919356 - 03/15/05 03:30 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

YES....

The toggle release valve is a built in safety. It releases at 22 / 24 psi.

Adding another is better than replacing the pop/off. My AA 941 sterilizer has two (2) toggle release valves & no pop/off.


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Re: WTF did I do to my PC? [Re: agar]
    #3919399 - 03/15/05 03:40 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks again man, I appreciate the help

I ordered a release valve...cost more than the PC did but it's certainly cheaper than a new one :smile:


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Re: WTF did I do to my PC? [Re: wynzlo]
    #3919514 - 03/15/05 04:08 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Is agar mycota? agar are you mycota???  :confused:


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Re: WTF did I do to my PC? [Re: barlo]
    #3920041 - 03/15/05 09:30 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

His posts really give him away..way to scientific and logical.

I got one of them pressure release valves...for a magic seal...but the thing is pissa. Holds in steam until it gets to about 21-22 PSI then it has enough pressure to start spitting it out so the PC doesnt pop. Same idea behind the little rubber thing, but apparently only a one time thing! Good choice going with the valve..


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Re: WTF did I do to my PC? [Re: barlo]
    #3920220 - 03/15/05 10:46 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Indeed he is.


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Re: WTF did I do to my PC? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3946023 - 03/20/05 09:38 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Apparently the release valves are hard to come by now so I ended up replacing the overpressure plug with the valve/weight combo instead (the PC already has an original "toggle release valve").

My question now is: which should be more accurate as far as determining the correct pressure - the pressure gauge or the weight? With the weight sitting on the 15psi setting the pressure only reaches 10-12 psi MAX. Should I be pc'ing for longer or is that weight doing it's job? One thing that I noticed is that the thread where I added this new weight/valve thing is not completely vertical...maybe that's throwing it off?

I should have just followed agar's advice completely and searched a little harder for another toggle valve... :cuckoo:


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Re: WTF did I do to my PC? [Re: wynzlo]
    #3946238 - 03/20/05 10:24 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)




Not hard to come by, if you know where to LOOK.

Go here (the manufacturer)
WEB SITE

Click on ALL-AMERICAN Aluminum Sterilizers:

Then click on ALL-AMERICAN Portable Sterilizers Replacement Parts.

Then scroll down to # 65, Control Valve - Fits ALL-AMERICAN Pressure Steam Sterilizers only (releases at 23-28 psi) $13.25


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Re: WTF did I do to my PC? [Re: wynzlo]
    #3947781 - 03/21/05 09:03 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

wynzlo said:
Apparently the release valves are hard to come by now so I ended up replacing the overpressure plug with the valve/weight combo instead (the PC already has an original "toggle release valve").

My question now is: which should be more accurate as far as determining the correct pressure - the pressure gauge or the weight? With the weight sitting on the 15psi setting the pressure only reaches 10-12 psi MAX. Should I be pc'ing for longer or is that weight doing it's job? One thing that I noticed is that the thread where I added this new weight/valve thing is not completely vertical...maybe that's throwing it off?

I should have just followed agar's advice completely and searched a little harder for another toggle valve... :cuckoo:




Id get the toggle valve myself but if you want to check if your pressure cooker is at 15 PSI you can use the PC test here:
http://www.fungifun.org/pcooker/


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