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Re: Lies and Truth [Re: PhanTomCat]
    #3919550 - 03/15/05 02:23 AM (19 years, 18 days ago)

:lol: off the applies for a sec. How is it that a lie can't exist if it isn't known/believed yet a truth can be?

This goes back to the absolution post.


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Re: Lies and Truth [Re: Psychoactive1984]
    #3919573 - 03/15/05 02:28 AM (19 years, 18 days ago)

Because, if you go back to a time before original sin(the apple) was eaten upon, there is only truth....  No sin....

Since Jesus died for our sins, it would remove ALL sins, thus no knowledge of sin at all....

:tongue:

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Re: Lies and Truth [Re: Psychoactive1984]
    #3919575 - 03/15/05 02:29 AM (19 years, 18 days ago)

exactly..

A lie can only exist if it is believed, if no one believe in a lie, it goes away...
Truth however, can exist even if you believe in it or/and not?


if you say, i am/this is this and that, unless you keep it for true to be, it goes away..

if you are here now, it does not matter if you believe it or not, you would still be now, here.. reading this.. :P


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Re: Lies and Truth [Re: PhanTomCat]
    #3919578 - 03/15/05 02:31 AM (19 years, 18 days ago)

I think I would rather have an orange now....  :grin:

They remind me more of the son of GOD....!  Or, SUN of GOD....!  :sun:

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Re: Lies and Truth [Re: PhanTomCat]
    #3919593 - 03/15/05 02:36 AM (19 years, 18 days ago)

It is gone.....!

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Now, THAT is something believe in, and build upon....!  TRUTH....!


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Re: Lies and Truth [Re: PhanTomCat]
    #3919596 - 03/15/05 02:38 AM (19 years, 18 days ago)

if you seek truth, have it right here and now? :P
if you seek lies, make it right here and now? :P


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Re: Lies and Truth [Re: Gomp]
    #3919620 - 03/15/05 02:46 AM (19 years, 18 days ago)

I seek only truth, and not sure what the other thing you speak of....   

We Shall ALL be pure again, with ONLY truth of GOD to guide our hands in the promise land....

I ask this of GOD in Jesus Christ's name....  :heart:


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Re: Lies and Truth [Re: Gomp]
    #3919627 - 03/15/05 02:52 AM (19 years, 18 days ago)

A lie can only exist if it is believed, if no one believe in a lie, it goes away...
Truth however, can exist even if you believe in it or/and not?

as example;what 'you' are, I call 'you' Pink, you claim to be Blue.. unless we believe it is either pink and/or blue, it would be neither..

hence a lie must be supported by someone, believed/known..

(this is where i stop using words, but)
as another example: you and me are sitting in a room, you claim to be there, i claime you are not....
either if i believe you or not, you are still there

hence a truth, as it supports it self.

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Re: Lies and Truth [Re: Gomp]
    #3919647 - 03/15/05 03:00 AM (19 years, 18 days ago)

I believe I would like some kind of fruit to quench my tummy....  :tongue:

I do believe that.....!    A truth that supports my very being....    :sun:

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Much LOVE to ALL, speak ONLY truth, and it can be realized....!  :heart:

(this is where I stop using words too....)  :grin:


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Re: Lies and Truth [Re: Gomp]
    #3919899 - 03/15/05 06:09 AM (19 years, 17 days ago)

How many sides real truth has ?

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