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InvisibleEgo Death
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Is MDMA legal anywhere?
    #3912461 - 03/13/05 07:03 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

MDMA is great stuff.

Are there any countries where its legal and you can purchase the pure chemical?

If you owned your own island would you be able to legally synth lovely chems such as MDMA and LSD?


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Re: Is MDMA legal anywhere? [Re: Ego Death]
    #3912547 - 03/13/05 07:24 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

No you wouldn't because you would be governed by whatever country owns that island (or international laws). No land is free from laws, and that person can't create or disobey laws without consequences (unless your one of those sultans in Arabia or some other person in power). I'm pretty sure MDMA is illegal everywhere, same with LSD (I'm positive LSD is, and about 99% on MDMA).


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Re: Is MDMA legal anywhere? [Re: theocean06]
    #3912735 - 03/13/05 08:14 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

It's not sold over the counter anywhere but even though schedules are much differnt in Canada, if schedule III's were just as easy to obtain in Canada as they were in US, they damn, I could probably get a script for it.
Laws of MDMA on Erowid: ttp://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mdma/mdma_law.shtml
It doesnt list every country but you would assume they would point out if it was legal to possess without any kind of authorization in any other country. Im sure its monitored very well in Canada for I havent heard of any X being run through the candadin border like Coke is through the Mexican one. THe canadian border isnt even that HOT! All the X In florida comes to port from overseas Europe/Holland where it's not as enforced and the gov't probably has a hand in the trade.


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Re: Is MDMA legal anywhere? [Re: PsillyNilly]
    #3917413 - 03/14/05 07:13 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

That sucks!!!

Outlawed by an entire planet!  This is not right. :shake:


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Re: Is MDMA legal anywhere? [Re: Ego Death]
    #3917448 - 03/14/05 07:19 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Well if you bought your own island, and owned it entirely, I don't see how other countries could impose their laws on it, unless you began smuggling drugs into other countries.


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Re: Is MDMA legal anywhere? [Re: dblaney]
    #3917539 - 03/14/05 09:23 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Well if that was the case (above) then the usa would be imposing their laws on other countries....oh wait....they're already doing that, nevermind. heh


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Re: Is MDMA legal anywhere? [Re: dblaney]
    #3917565 - 03/14/05 09:28 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Because when you buy land, your not creating your own country. To create and enforce your very own laws and no one else's on that island, you have to basically create a new nation (of your own). I'm pretty sure you still have to follow international law. If it really was this easy, don't you think someone would have done it already and have a huge lab creating any and every drug that person pleases and export it.

I hope I'm not way off here, but if I am, someone correct me.


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Re: Is MDMA legal anywhere? [Re: theocean06]
    #3917734 - 03/14/05 10:01 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

theocean06, You are both right and wrong!

You would have to create your own county, and it can be done. From there you would have to define your government, your currency (backed by something), and your laws. International law is based on treaties, If you do not sign then you do not have to abide by them.

Once your country is set up you can open diplomatic relations with the US and declare your embassy as well as your diplomatic pouches (Cars, plains, etc) Then so long as you are on your embassy grounds or in a diplomatic pouch you are effectively in your own country and immune from US law.

Now a small island, Say 13 miles long with a source of water and an air strip (Just to get started) runs around 20 to 30 million dollars. Then there is setup costs, etc.

Now getting it and setting it up is one thing, defending it is a whole new ball game. When the US decides to force you to stop, and invades/takes over your country, how are you going to stop it?

There are also trade embargo's that can be enforced, Countries can stop people from visiting your island, both political and financial pressure can be put on your country, in an attempt to force you to stop. On top of this the world banking system (yes, Switzerland is included) will not accept money that comes from known drug sources.

For more information check out the following about the nation of Sealand.

http://www.sealandgov.com/history.html


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Re: Is MDMA legal anywhere? [Re: Cyber]
    #3917797 - 03/14/05 10:12 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Ya I know all about Sealand...but lets just say that island or fortress (watever you wanna call it) was an LSD/MDMA manufacturer instead of an offshore server. Do you really think Europe and the US would let that slide?


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Re: Is MDMA legal anywhere? [Re: PsillyNilly]
    #3917833 - 03/14/05 10:18 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

I guess if you could keep it extremely secret, you would be OK.  Once word got out that the purpose of that island was for the production of a drug(s), the US would most likely...

:machinegun:

Thanks for clarifying that Cyber :thumbup:


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Re: Is MDMA legal anywhere? [Re: theocean06]
    #3918076 - 03/14/05 10:51 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Well I mean to me it would sound ideal to just make your own little island-nation in the middle of the ocean somewhere, and just do whatever the hell you please there, of course within some moral limits, and of course not interferring with other nations. :grin:


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Re: Is MDMA legal anywhere? [Re: PsillyNilly]
    #3918259 - 03/14/05 11:14 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

PsillyNilly said:
Ya I know all about Sealand...but lets just say that island or fortress (watever you wanna call it) was an LSD/MDMA manufacturer instead of an offshore server.  Do you really think Europe and the US would let that slide?




Sealand was an example of some one creating a country with there own laws.

That was the point of having to defend the island. Now think on this one. The US decided to stop you, as such they bomb the shit out of your little island and take it over. You serenader and sign treaties that make drugs illegal on your island. Then you apply to the US for "Reconstruction" and get some of the billions that the US is giving away. You rebuild your island better than it was before. From time to time you arrest some one for drug trafficking, but for the most part your look the other way (at least for those that are paying you). You pocket the money from the US as well as the bribe money from the lab owners. All the time putting on a good show to make it look like you are upholding your end of the treaty. :wink:


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    #3921648 - 03/15/05 05:41 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Is MDMA legal anywhere? [Re: nothing]
    #3922593 - 03/15/05 09:29 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

I dont think they would destroy the island or raid it but Im sure once any vessel got into national waters, the navy or coast guard would just troll it until it got into US protected territory where a squad would be waiting to tear the boat apart.


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Re: Is MDMA legal anywhere? [Re: PsillyNilly]
    #3926510 - 03/16/05 06:19 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

We are in Columbia fighting that drug war, why wouldn't the US do the same when you make a nation who sole purpose is to make drugs. They aren't going to look at you like England or Bolivia, you would just be some insignificant nation that would require no effort to take over. I think once news got to the US about such an island, they would certainly take action.


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Re: Is MDMA legal anywhere? [Re: theocean06]
    #3927060 - 03/16/05 08:15 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Good point, but there are massive amounts of Cocaine and other drugs being smuggled into the US from Colombia. The theoretical island would probably be self-sufficient and would not be exporting illegal substances.

Would the US still conquer them?

I could see good arguments for yes and no.


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