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Amazon Shop for: ½ Pint Jars, Pressure Cooker, Rye Grain

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Please help!!!
    #3906225 - 03/12/05 11:04 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I have my pf jars ready to sterilize in my pressure cooker but my grow guide is kinda unclear on how long I should cook them. I heard I was supposed to let the water come to a boil and then add the jars and cook for about 50 min. Is this correct?


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Re: Please help!!! [Re: Christoph teh goat luvr]
    #3906241 - 03/12/05 11:09 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Put your jars and water in the pot and put the lid on. Turn on full heat until you build pressure up and can hear the valve rattling. Turn heat down lower as to not boil all your water out, but enough to maintain pressure. Start timing at that point, and keep them at pressure for 45 minutes.


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Re: Please help!!! [Re: Holydiver]
    #3906246 - 03/12/05 11:10 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

so keep them in untill it boils and then cook for extra 45 min? Are you sure this wont dry them out?


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Re: Please help!!! [Re: Christoph teh goat luvr]
    #3906268 - 03/12/05 11:16 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Not if you put enough water in the pressure cooker. Make sure during the PC process that the steam doesn't stop coming out of the PC. If this happens then you are pretty much out of water and you are going to cook your Grain, Corn Whatever you decide to use. This is only from my past experience's


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Re: Please help!!! [Re: bounceproof]
    #3906278 - 03/12/05 11:21 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

O.k cool, I think I got it. I'l tell you if it works or not. :mushroom2:


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Re: Please help!!! [Re: Christoph teh goat luvr]
    #3906293 - 03/12/05 11:25 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

GL tell us how it works out


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Re: Please help!!! [Re: Christoph teh goat luvr]
    #3906302 - 03/12/05 11:27 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

If you have the time pc for 90min. it may seem excessive but i've had problems with contams at 45 min. Since i've been using 90 min after the stopper starts to move i no longer have contamination problems.


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Re: Please help!!! [Re: brewwhaha1]
    #3906313 - 03/12/05 11:32 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Are you sure 90 min won't dry it out? Maybe 60 min? I think if I cook for 90 I will run out of water.


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Re: Please help!!! [Re: Christoph teh goat luvr]
    #3906318 - 03/12/05 11:34 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

if you run out of water, your heat is set to high. almost 1hr 30 mins in afoaf's All american barely looses and water inside.

Your pressure release thingy shouldnt be venting the whole time, just 4-7 times a minute.


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    #3906325 - 03/12/05 11:36 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Well I have it set on like 2 on the stove and its venting the whole time!


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Re: Please help!!! [Re: Christoph teh goat luvr]
    #3906348 - 03/12/05 11:40 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, but it's venting the water in bottom of the COOKER, not the water in the jars. If you notice the hissing drop, it's used up all your cooker water, and you better get it off the fire. After a couple of sets of jars are done, you will get an idea of how much water you need for that. I find 45 minutes PC time will steam away a little over 2 cups of water in my cooker, so I always make sure I have 3 cups in there. If you double that cook time, I'd suppose 5 or six cups of water might be best.


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    #3906359 - 03/12/05 11:43 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Well I filled it up so that the water comes up to about the 2/3 mark of my half pint jars. That should probably be enough right?


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Re: Please help!!! [Re: Christoph teh goat luvr]
    #3906367 - 03/12/05 11:45 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

:thumbup:

but dont cook for 90 minutes, thats a looooong time. 45 minutes will be just fine, just make sure you start timing after steam starts to release.


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    #3906378 - 03/12/05 11:47 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

O.K, Thanx for the help guys I'l tell you how it works out.


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Re: Please help!!! [Re: Christoph teh goat luvr]
    #3906476 - 03/12/05 12:07 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

You only need an inch of water.

I actually fell asleep my last batch....I woke up after it had been PCing for 7 hours, pressure was about 21-22 (left the stove on warm, absolute lowest setting at about 17PSI) but I turned it off, poped it open, still the same amount of water as I put in (about an inch) and after a shake, the jars look fine..maybe even a little wet...I was in a hurry when I made them though and I think it was from that. They'll still work out...they just arent perfect. I fell asleep a time before...while simmering about 10 pounds of rye and PCing 10 quarts...that time after 9 hours the PC and pot ran empty and everything burned to the pans and tyvek all melted completly off the jars...had to trash all that grain and 10 jars..that was a sad sad day.

PCs are meant to keep water in, a rocker style will spit out more water then mine will so it may not last 6 hours..but any PC should last 2-3 hours with an inch of water in it (thats an inch before the jars go in, putting the jars in the water may rasie the water line a bit more).


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Re: Please help!!! [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3906529 - 03/12/05 12:21 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Mine uses up an inch of water between 30 & 40 minutes. But that's an inch with the jars sitting in it pushing it up. Yeah, it's the rocker style cooker.

Maybe I need to get one like yours. Whatcha got?


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Re: Please help!!! [Re: Mages]
    #3906558 - 03/12/05 12:33 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)



The farther one was 20 dollars shipped from ebay (Burppee), the closer (still working and the better of the two) was 30 dollars shipped from ebay (Magic Seal). The farther holds 10 quart jars, the closer 10 quarts and a pint.


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Re: Please help!!! [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3906563 - 03/12/05 12:35 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Am I supposed do dunk the cakes before introducing to fruiting chamber or in between flushes? Or both?


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    #3906592 - 03/12/05 12:43 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Both. Only put them in the fridge for the dunk during the first flush. If you get into 3rd and later flushes, you may want to decrease the dunk time to 12 hours (reduce contam risks and it wont suck up much more after that anyway once it starts getting to hold). Add a splash of h202 (small splash), especially if your not dunking in fridge and/or your using tap water. Distilled water would be better though.


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Re: Please help!!! [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3906620 - 03/12/05 12:48 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

My roommate has one kind of like the closer one but it's OLLLLLD and I've been afraid it would explode. Maybe I should check it out.


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